domain aB.TC - my expectations = real or too high?

[CryptoBison]

Hello Pros!

I'm actually not new to domain selling but until now I only bought/sold .com domains so having bit of a hard time with this one.

aB.TC

My personal considerations:

+It's the shortest 2-words (a + BTC) Crypto/Bitcoin domain ever possible to this date, together with iB.TC... the shortest 1-word is B.TC and is of course already acquired by btcmedia.org

+There are already big companys using the name ABTC like the Achain Fork or AML Bitcoin, and I guess this will increase steadily so the domain should have great value for one of those to stand out against all other.

+ad.tc got sold for $2,750 on 2011-03-25 (7 1/2 years ago! - today's domain values are way higher, aren't they?)

+.tc-domains are british territory, even though widely known in turkey (Turks and Caicos isles) - so no worries that crypto .tc domains will get shut down, they are as safe as .io and I also wouldn't wonder if they become a similar hype - you heard it here 1st - since .tc can mean many crypto-related things like 'trading center/coins' or coins like LTC, FTC etc... btw aL.TC - 2L.TC - 4L.TC is still free, I already invested enough in .tc domains so hf&gl ;-D
But I'm not sure how bright the future of LTC will be anyway, considering Lightning Network.
another free: yB.TC - could be whyBTC, a info-site or anything.
(Netcetera.co.uk is the provider you would want for cheapest .tc domains.)

Which all makes me set my asking price for 4,000$+ right now - does that seem realistic, too low or too much to you guys?

Very happy about any thoughts!

 

[NYJimbo]

+ad.tc got sold for $2,750 on 2011-03-25 (7 1/2 years ago! - today's domain values are way higher, aren't they?)

These TLDs sell higher early and cheaper later.

So yeah, aB.TC is reg fee to mid $xxx
Have fun renewing it next year.

 

[CryptoBison]

These TLDs sell higher early and cheaper later.

So yeah, aB.TC is reg fee to mid $xxx
Have fun renewing it next year.

Pretty sure my crypto investments will make me not care about the reg fee next year
Also the .tc extension only costs 66€ per year at Netcetera.co.uk (great & super trustable provider, that's rare) so with mid $xxx I'd should be fine or no? =D
Wouldn't sell it for xxx though, prefer to keep it for my own business then, got some useful ideas for all of them.
Thanks for your valuation btw, can live with that and consider it could may be the real value of that domain and noone would pay more than that. If that's the case I will keep it and make something nice out of it myself (damn, I already have so many projects working on simultaniously right now ;-D)

 

[Bob Hawkes]

With such little data hard to be clear on how prices of seldom used cc are changing, but I doubt that they have gone up or down much overall. If you look at all cc's last 5 yr was about $2320 average price, 2016 $1730 average price and 2017 was $1670 average price, and 2018 YTD was $2240 average price. But those are, as others have said, so dominated by co/de/io and others that I don't think they have much if anything to say on this worth. Also may be some NameBio venue selection bias in the data.

I think the real issue would be how you might convince a BTC related startup to go for an extension they probably have not heard of. I agree it will take outbound, and to me the best prospects could be one where the A is meaningful like IF there was a company called Access BTC perhaps they could be sold. The very short nature of the name is attractive.

The other possible sales angle is to find someone that really wants AB cause it is the acronym for their company, and they can't find an extension with it. AB.cc (admittedly a much more popular extension) went for $2000, although $1360 in .at, and $530 in .at ( and over $35,000 in .de ).

I see that GoValue suggest for your name is about $2500, which is potentially helpful if you get to the negotiation stage with any end user that values automated appraisals.

 

[slader23]

Do you not understand, that if you say aB.TC has no value because - and that is btw the only reason, without any constructive argument, you mention so you're violating rule 5.1 here, just like Kate - .tc domains don't have much reported liquidity, you're also saying B.TC has no value, and that is nonsense?



There are way more things to consider about those domains than only the extension and everyone who does only that has no idea - what I don't think about you guys =) - or something bad in mind.
Writing in bold makes your nonsense rhetoric not any more valuable btw.



Read again what I wrote about that and try to understand the full context.

Where did I say B.TC has no value?


I've given you 3 levels of analysis.

1. Differentiated your tie to value in regards to the domain name value of AB.TC to BTC. B.TC is a domain hack for Bitcoin, AB.TC is a domain hack for?


2. I gave you a valuation analysis based on reported sales and transaction volume.

3. Provided visual representation of domain sales over time through those charts from namebio.com


What rhetoric am I using? Everything I said is a fact backed by data. You've lambasted and belittled everyone who doesn't think your domain has value. People with eons more experience and expertise than you regarding domain names. What initially looked like a simple appraisal thread where you ask for other peoples opinions has turned into you criticizing everyone that you don't agree with and unknowingly embarrassing yourself in the process.


My final appraisal is reg fee. If it doesn't sell in 12 months drop it.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Not totally crazy, if it was mine I would try organizations with all 4 letters as acronym. A few listed here:
https://www.acronymfinder.com/ATBC.html

Who knows, maybe the Association for Tropical Biology and Conservation might be searching for a new domain, or the Australia Thailand Business Council. You never know. It just takes one interested party.

 

[slader23]

Not totally crazy, if it was mine I would try organizations with all 4 letters as acronym. A few listed here:
https://www.acronymfinder.com/ATBC.html

Who knows, maybe the Association for Tropical Biology and Conservation might be searching for a new domain, or the Australia Thailand Business Council. You never know. It just takes one interested party.

https://amltoken.com/

@CryptoBison You didn't check these guys out? ABTC.

 

[CryptoBison]

Where did I say B.TC has no value?

I'm not too much into repeating myself multiple times, sorry...

I've given you 3 levels of analysis.
1. Differentiated your tie to value in regards to the domain name value of AB.TC to BTC. B.TC is a domain hack for Bitcoin, AB.TC is a domain hack for?
2. I gave you a valuation analysis based on reported sales and transaction volume.
3. Provided visual representation of domain sales over time through those charts from namebio.com

Which is all about the extension, no?
Do I really need to explain how aB.TC is a domain hack again (I did already?)?

What rhetoric am I using? Everything I said is a fact backed by data. You've lambasted and belittled everyone who doesn't think your domain has value. People with eons more experience and expertise than you regarding domain names. What initially looked like a simple appraisal thread where you ask for other peoples opinions has turned into you criticizing everyone that you don't agree with and unknowingly embarrassing yourself in the process.

I remember reading facts about the extension from you, yes.
You're still stating B.TC has no value though.

My final appraisal is reg fee. If it doesn't sell in 12 months drop it.

I won't ever drop any of those B.TC domains, promise.
If noone wants to buy them for at least xxxx I'm going to keep them either for my biggest soon-to-start business as simple redirections or I'm working out a business for each. Luckily, I'm on my own and got more than enough time.

 

[slader23]

I'm not too much into repeating myself multiple times, sorry...



Which is all about the extension, no?



I remember reading facts about the extension from you, yes.
You're still stating B.TC has no value though.



I won't ever drop any of those B.TC domains, promise.
If noone wants to buy them for at least xxxx I'm going to keep them either for my biggest soon-to-start business as simple redirections or I'm working out a business for each. Luckily, I'm on my own and got more than enough time.

Where do I specifically say the B.TC has no value? It's developed and owned by BTCMedia.org. It's a Domain hack like N.ET ,Sho.es etc.


In addition to this to analyze domain liquidity you must look at the extension. When you're buying a specific model of a car,shoe, phone don't you check to see the brand first? Is the brand popular? Trusted?You should do the same with domains.

 

[CryptoBison]

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@CryptoBison You didn't check these guys out? ABTC.

Yes I did, you still havn't read my 1st post? xD

Will definitely contact all of them after I'm more secure about the asking price, not in a hurry though.

Where do I specifically say the B.TC has no value? It's developed and owned by BTCMedia.org. It's a Domain hack like N.ET ,Sho.es etc.

Well one more time, if you only provide 1 reason - the .tc extension - to value my domain at 0, then you're also saying all other .tc domains have 0 value, including B.TC.
4B.TC (for BTC) / aB.TC are also domain hacks, they're not restricted to only 1 word.
You can even put it further like aB.TC/exchange - aB.TC/casino etc..

 

[cixxy]

There is a lot of negative people so I don't blame your attitude tbh.

Just have a look at my threads how much negativity there is, people saying I lost all my money, etc.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/sp...hand-regs-need-some-direction-please.1097283/

To be honest if you can make a good pitch outbound to those companies starting with A and are related to bitcoin then I think you might have some luck. I think the best way to appraise this is get a list of how many companies starting with A you can contact and from there work out a price between 2k-5k. AB.TC is much better than PB.TC... A by itself means top or best or ace, etc (A grade).

The crypto/ btc hype is dying down though and it looks like the same search volume as Vegan which is at 800k/month . https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=crypto,bitcoin,vegan

Another thing this could be is some kind of medical service related to blood. AB blood in the TC country.

 

[slader23]

Yes I did, you still havn't read my 1st post? xD

Will definitely contact all of them after I'm more secure about the asking price, not in a hurry though - usually I don't have to do something like that with my .com domains.

It might be worth it to them. If it was a .com, I'd be asking $50k so maybe ask 5%-10% of that if they come back at you with interest. They probably won't be trying to find you for it so outbound is definitely the way to go. If you don't outbound it's reg fee. Crypto ticker names are pretty valuable in .com, especially if the ticker is commonly used.

 

[cixxy]

Also: The fact is, 2 letter TC don't sell much because that 2 letter domain names are rare, as well as not many people using .TC domain, so they are less likely to be dropped or sold.

4 letters for the whole website name is actually very very good and certainly not just worth reg fee.

Especially in this case that it actually can mean something related to crypto....

I saw xo.bo in expired domains deleted and I really wanted it but it was registered when I tried to.

Short domain names are really epic for some services or for marketing, it's very easy to say AB dot TC to someone on the street or on the phone.

 

[CryptoBison]

There is a lot of negative people so I don't blame your attitude tbh.

Just have a look at my threads how much negativity there is, people saying I lost all my money, etc.

To be honest if you can make a good pitch outbound to those companies starting with A and are related to bitcoin then I think you might have some luck. I think the best way to appraise this is get a list of how many companies starting with A you can contact and from there work out a price between 2k-5k. AB.TC is much better than PB.TC... A by itself means top or best or ace, etc (A grade).

The crypto/ btc hype is dying down though and it looks like the same search volume as Vegan which is at 800k/month

Another thing this could be is some kind of medical service related to blood. AB blood in the TC country.

Seems like, reading some answeres there gives me headache.
Exactly the reason I'm staying away from most reddit subs - miserable people who are just spreading fud, I guess mostly because they want to profit from that somehow with selling their own crap or buying your stuff cheap. You definitely have some great names there, I mostly am into brandables and like Aihance, Fundega, Digery, Dronier alot, many potential high-paying buyers for each of those.

I appreciate your answeres, thank you!

It might be worth it to them. If it was a .com, I'd be asking $50k so maybe ask 5%-10% of that if they come back at you with interest. They probably won't be trying to find you for it so outbound is definitely the way to go. If you don't outbound it's reg fee. Crypto ticker names are pretty valuable in .com, especially if the ticker is commonly used.

Thank you too for this consideration, would be my best bet too, that it has most value to some of those ABTC companys. Alone for the reason to not let any name competitor have any advantage about that name.

 

[ecalc]

I do also own 2B.TC + 4B.TC + vB.TC ... is there any sense in not selling any of those B.TC domains and keeping them all for this service?

Absolutely, in fact don't stop there, think about rolling up the whole enchilada 1296 2-character TC names for <86000€ at your shrewd 66€ rate, then sit tight, maybe hire an intern to count BTC and fend off the sob story end users. Good luck!

 

[CryptoBison]

Absolutely, in fact don't stop there, think about rolling up the whole enchilada 1296 2-character TC names for <86000€ at your shrewd 66€ rate, then sit tight, maybe hire an intern to count BTC and fend off the sob story end users. Good luck!

only interested in the 'x'B.TC names though, and the most valuable are all registered.

 

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