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Notarius43

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Dear Namepros members,

I suggest to put a rule that domain brokers must mention in their very first message that they are brokers

I'm looking for LL.com domains and got the same domain offered 16 times on this forum... Out of this - 11 people admitted they are brokers, 5 didn't admit they are brokers and playing that they are an owner. One actually looks like an owner and is even talking "as he is an owner and he accepts or declines the offer".

This is ridiculius and time wasting. Brokers shall mention they are brokers, in a very first message.

What do you think?
 
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Plot twist: out of these 16, probably 0 are actual brokers authorised to sell that domain.
 
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Plot twist: out of these 16, probably 0 are actual brokers authorised to sell that domain.
What does someone gain from promoting another person's domain name? The broker has no ability to execute the transfer, and the owner would receive the full value if a lead results in a sale without paying unsolicited commission fees. This isn’t to imply that the actual owner wants this to happen, but unless the broker is scamming money from potential buyers—which doesn’t seem as common as 16 out of 16 people doing this—what’s the motivation to tarnish their reputation?

Also, are there any legitimate security risks to the real owner when this occurs?
 
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What does someone gain from promoting another person's domain name? The broker has no ability to execute the transfer, and the owner would receive the full value if a lead results in a sale without paying unsolicited commission fees. This isn’t to imply that the actual owner wants this to happen, but unless the broker is scamming money from potential buyers—which doesn’t seem as common as 16 out of 16 people doing this—what’s the motivation to tarnish their reputation?

Frontrunning / price arbitrage. They would simultaneously negotiate with the buyer and the seller, and keep the difference.

Also, are there any legitimate security risks to the real owner when this occurs?

Security? No, but risk to reputation and a wasted sale. Also potential UDRP which will result in loss of money at best and loss of the domain at worst. If the buyer thinks they are talking to the domain owner, everything that goes wrong will be blamed on the domain owner, because especially on the forum, where most of people are anonymous, there is no way to tell if John Smith, who owns the domain, goes by fantastic_domains or superb_domains, or something else entirely.
 
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Dear Namepros members,

I suggest to put a rule that domain brokers must mention in their very first message that they are brokers

I'm looking for LL.com domains and got the same domain offered 16 times on this forum... Out of this - 11 people admitted they are brokers, 5 didn't admit they are brokers and playing that they are an owner. One actually looks like an owner and is even talking "as he is an owner and he accepts or declines the offer".

This is ridiculius and time wasting. Brokers shall mention they are brokers, in a very first message.

What do you think?

The following rule currently applies:
6.1.14. You must be the rightful owner or authorized broker to offer an item (e.g., domain name) for sale. Brokers must be authorized by the asset owner(s) to sell on their behalf. You must provide satisfactory proof that the item is in your possession (e.g., link to a recently-verified status by a reputable marketplace) upon request.

At any time, a potential buyer or moderator may message a member and request proof of ownership or authorization to broker a domain.

If a member requests proof and finds that the proof is not satisfactory, they may add a moderator to the direct message to give the seller a chance to provide satisfactory proof.

In the event satisfactory proof is not able to be provided, the sellers account may be subject to a marketplace restriction, for security reasons, while the matter is investigated further.
 
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