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I think there is progress!
Couple of large sales suggest that people may be getting used to the new gTLD's.
Do you agree?
Couple of large sales suggest that people may be getting used to the new gTLD's.
Do you agree?
In 100 years ? Mainstream should mean they are commonplace and part of daily life, I think not everybody has the same definition of mainstream. I don't think it's happening, .com and ccTLDs are outpacing nTLDs. Registration figures in nTLDs are actually declininga) New gTLDs are not yet mainstream, but are heading to this direction - you can like it, or
Not everybody is happy. TM holders are not all happy. Sysadmins are not happy. Some registries are downright shady and engage in predatory practices. Examples: the racket business model of .sucks. Some TLDs seem to exist for the sole purpose of spamming and rogue pharma (it's not me saying that).d) Registrars, registries, ICANN, new gTLD investors AND END USERS - they all find gTLDs beneficial. No end user will ever complain that there are more options to name their business. If they do not like those options, they can ignore them, no problem.
Redirect is a bold keyword, trickle-down maybe ? But if there had been a shift then we should be seeing a lot more reported sales of nTLDs. There are maybe 3 sales in DNJ this week and this is considered a great week. They are virtually absent there rest of the time.e) If you builded large .com or ccTLD portfolio over the years you can naturally have some issues with new gTLDs - it is not fun for them to see part of the money redirected to new gTLDs. So this is the only group of people who can complain, which is fully understandable.
They really don't seem to rank well in google serps.In 100 years ? Mainstream should mean they are commonplace and part of daily life, I think not everybody has the same definition of mainstream. I don't think it's happening, .com and ccTLDs are outpacing nTLDs. Registration figures in nTLDs are actually declining
Not everybody is happy. TM holders are not all happy. Sysadmins are not happy. Some registries are downright shady and engage in predatory practices. Examples: the racket business model of .sucks. Some TLDs seem to exist for the sole purpose of spamming and rogue pharma (it's not me saying that).
Most end users don't care and don't find them beneficial, they find them useless.
No, personally I have not seen many people praising new extensions for their contribution toward a better domain name ecosystem. Those praising new extensions are the registrars and the registries, and a few branding companies. The insiders. And most of them are on .com anyway.
Redirect is a bold keyword, trickle-down maybe ? But if there had been a shift then we should be seeing a lot more reported sales of nTLDs. There are maybe 3 sales in DNJ this week and this is considered a great week. They are virtually absent there rest of the time.
And domainers like to boast about the big sales they make. Again, there is no reason why nTLD sales would be reported less often than .com. The big sales are almost all reported by registries, there must be a reason.
How many sellers of nTLDs run a real-life business on a new extension ?
Do you have any real evidence to back any of this up? Outside of holding up registry sales as your own?Well (as a person who is heavily invested in new gTLDs) I can tell you following:
As for 2018, imho:
a) New gTLDs are not yet mainstream, but are heading to this direction - you can like it, or not.
b) Number of offers/sales are getting larger year by year - I can feel it myself in my portfolio. End users like unique and cool names.
c) We see some record sales of new gTLDs publicly announced, and this is just a beginnig - I would not be surprised to see some new gTLD sales larger then 1 mil until end of 2018.
d) Registrars, registries, ICANN, new gTLD investors AND END USERS - they all find gTLDs beneficial. No end user will ever complain that there are more options to name their business. If they do not like those options, they can ignore them, no problem.
e) If you builded large .com or ccTLD portfolio over the years you can naturally have some issues with new gTLDs - it is not fun for them to see part of the money redirected to new gTLDs. So this is the only group of people who can complain, which is fully understandable.
f) New gTLDs are just another investment instrument in domain space - as for private investors, most profit will be done, imo, by pre-mainstream investors. Logically, no one can seriously expect to get great name for $1 AFTER they becomes fully mainstream. In the process of investing there will be (are) some losses too, as everything is still in process and we need to learn everyday.
g) It is not true that all good names are hold by registries as stated by one of OPs above - you can see TONS of amazing names in private hands, with regular renewals or very reasonable smaller premium renewals attached to them - people who do their analysis and work are doing well. When you study in WHOIS who owns great gTLDs combos, you will find people from all around the planet, PLUS some clever and rich .com investors as well, who have diversified their domain portfolios.
Just IMO
What's interesting to me is that back in the old days, some people were confused by sub-domains. You know, like [email protected]. It took years for consumers to absorb that a sub-domain is really the same domain and how that works.
I see nGTLD's much the same. It takes consumers a long time to adjust to seeing a different kind of string in front of them.
I am no big gTLD investor and I don't have a particular interest in them as I try to invest in shorter term liquidity, but I am very strong in the area of human behavior as it relates to marketing.
If these new extensions are around long enough, and consumers start seeing them, they will be accepted. I certainly don't see them being rejected by consumers in the future.
Here are this years nGTLD sales according to Namebio:
smartenergy.xyz 300 USD 2018-01-22 Sedo
home.loans 500,000 USD 2018-01-21 Donuts
the.club 300,000 USD 2018-01-21 Brandaisy
vr.berlin 7,321 USD 2018-01-21 Sedo
ethereum.uno 300 USD 2018-01-21 Sedo
maps.amsterdam 8,540 USD 2018-01-14 Undeveloped
orthodontist.amsterdam 6,100 USD 2018-01-14 Undeveloped
amr.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
msi.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
goo.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
ait.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
lifi.cool 280 USD 2018-01-13 Flippa
trump.xyz 110 USD 2018-01-13 Sedo
btc.network 999 USD 2018-01-12 Flippa
kids.show 2,980 USD 2018-01-09 Sedo
ancient.city 102 USD 2018-01-09 Dynadot
talk.show 50,000 USD 2018-01-07 Pvt Sale
smc.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
partners.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
ideas.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
cts.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
shop.yoga 5,000 USD 2018-01-05 Sedo
aloyoga.store 2,408 USD 2018-01-05 Sedo
buy.game 8,880 USD 2018-01-04 Sedo
mikes.pub 5,000 USD 2018-01-03 Sedo
mr.pizza 184 USD 2018-01-02 Dynadot
us.today 121 USD 2018-01-02 Dynadot
These numbers are not great, but they are selling. And I'm sure many more unreported sales are out there.
Like .biz or .info. After 15 years of existence they are finally gaining momentumIf these new extensions are around long enough, and consumers start seeing them, they will be accepted. I certainly don't see them being rejected by consumers in the future.
Here are this years nGTLD sales according to Namebio:
smartenergy.xyz 300 USD 2018-01-22 Sedo
home.loans 500,000 USD 2018-01-21 Donuts
the.club 300,000 USD 2018-01-21 Brandaisy
vr.berlin 7,321 USD 2018-01-21 Sedo
ethereum.uno 300 USD 2018-01-21 Sedo
maps.amsterdam 8,540 USD 2018-01-14 Undeveloped
orthodontist.amsterdam 6,100 USD 2018-01-14 Undeveloped
amr.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
msi.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
goo.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
ait.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
lifi.cool 280 USD 2018-01-13 Flippa
trump.xyz 110 USD 2018-01-13 Sedo
btc.network 999 USD 2018-01-12 Flippa
kids.show 2,980 USD 2018-01-09 Sedo
ancient.city 102 USD 2018-01-09 Dynadot
talk.show 50,000 USD 2018-01-07 Pvt Sale
smc.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
partners.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
ideas.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
cts.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
shop.yoga 5,000 USD 2018-01-05 Sedo
aloyoga.store 2,408 USD 2018-01-05 Sedo
buy.game 8,880 USD 2018-01-04 Sedo
mikes.pub 5,000 USD 2018-01-03 Sedo
mr.pizza 184 USD 2018-01-02 Dynadot
us.today 121 USD 2018-01-02 Dynadot
These numbers are not great, but they are selling. And I'm sure many more unreported sales are out there.
Cost is a huge factor. I still don't get the prices. Donuts seems to have lowered some premium prices.People forget there are companies that have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars just to maintain a single new extension. Unless each registry pulls off a home.loans type sale, they’ll be lucky to stay in business for more that a couple years. So it’s idiotic to pour money into .whatevers when some of the registries themselves are already failing. If already some of them are failing, what is the likelihood you won’t?
No Idea friend why you are hesitant, IF it is really good You can pm me first with details - I promise I will not take that name, I can just tell you some remarks from my perspective.There is one name I am eyeing now. I am almost tempted to register it, then focus on selling it and see how I do. Based on my normal research, it should be a no brainer to sell it. I can identify many potential end users. So why am I hesitant to spend 39 bucks on it?
I still don't get the prices. Donuts seems to have lowered some premium prices.
Pm sent.No Idea friend why you are hesitant, IF it is really good You can pm me first with details - I promise I will not take that name, I can just tell you some remarks from my perspective.
Paltry results when you consider that registries practically own hundreds of ENTIRE EXTENSIONS. Where they can put unlimited domains in their portfolio at no cost. All "premium" new gtld domains owned by registrars likely amount to more than a hundred million domains, so in view of how many ngtlds are for sale at premium pricing, they hardly sell any.Here are this years nGTLD sales according to Namebio:
smartenergy.xyz 300 USD 2018-01-22 Sedo
home.loans 500,000 USD 2018-01-21 Donuts
the.club 300,000 USD 2018-01-21 Brandaisy
vr.berlin 7,321 USD 2018-01-21 Sedo
ethereum.uno 300 USD 2018-01-21 Sedo
maps.amsterdam 8,540 USD 2018-01-14 Undeveloped
orthodontist.amsterdam 6,100 USD 2018-01-14 Undeveloped
amr.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
msi.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
goo.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
ait.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-14 DotGlobal
lifi.cool 280 USD 2018-01-13 Flippa
trump.xyz 110 USD 2018-01-13 Sedo
btc.network 999 USD 2018-01-12 Flippa
kids.show 2,980 USD 2018-01-09 Sedo
ancient.city 102 USD 2018-01-09 Dynadot
talk.show 50,000 USD 2018-01-07 Pvt Sale
smc.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
partners.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
ideas.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
cts.global 4,800 USD 2018-01-07 DotGlobal
shop.yoga 5,000 USD 2018-01-05 Sedo
aloyoga.store 2,408 USD 2018-01-05 Sedo
buy.game 8,880 USD 2018-01-04 Sedo
mikes.pub 5,000 USD 2018-01-03 Sedo
mr.pizza 184 USD 2018-01-02 Dynadot
us.today 121 USD 2018-01-02 Dynadot
These numbers are not great, but they are selling. And I'm sure many more unreported sales are out there.
But could they be similar to the Investments made by pioneers years ago?
I was surprised at the lackluster search results on Namebio. I thought there would be many more considering how many are out there. cctld sales substantially eclipse the ngtld sales.Paltry results when you consider that registrars practically own hundreds of ENTIRE EXTENSIONS. Where they can put unlimited domains in their portfolio at no cost. All "premium" new gtld domains owned by registrars likely amount to more than a hundred million domains, so in view of how many ngtlds are for sale at premium pricing, they hardly sell any.
There are 2 main reasons imo why new gTLD sales are publicly reported in lesser extend atm, comparing to legacy extension sales, and why my guesstimate is that 95% are unreported:In 100 years ? Mainstream should mean they are commonplace and part of daily life, I think not everybody has the same definition of mainstream. I don't think it's happening, .com and ccTLDs are outpacing nTLDs. Registration figures in nTLDs are actually declining
Not everybody is happy. TM holders are not all happy. Sysadmins are not happy. Some registries are downright shady and engage in predatory practices. Examples: the racket business model of .sucks. Some TLDs seem to exist for the sole purpose of spamming and rogue pharma (it's not me saying that).
Most end users don't care and don't find them beneficial, they find them useless.
No, personally I have not seen many people praising new extensions for their contribution toward a better domain name ecosystem. Those praising new extensions are the registrars and the registries, and a few branding companies. The insiders. And most of them are on .com anyway.
Redirect is a bold keyword, trickle-down maybe ? But if there had been a shift then we should be seeing a lot more reported sales of nTLDs. There are maybe 3 sales in DNJ this week and this is considered a great week. They are virtually absent there rest of the time.
And domainers like to boast about the big sales they make. Again, there is no reason why nTLD sales would be reported less often than .com. The big sales are almost all reported by registries, there must be a reason.
How many sellers of nTLDs run a real-life business on a new extension ?