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I thought you didn't need religion to be a a decent person?

Accused Murderer Not Charged With Killing Woman’s Unborn Baby Thanks to New York’s Abortion Law
https://www.lifenews.com/2019/02/11...unborn-baby-thanks-to-new-yorks-abortion-law/

JB Lions said:

I do understand it, apparently you don't.

Your views aren't Conservative, they're Christian. They hijacked the Republican party long ago. You vote Republican because they go along with your views.

Conservatives are supposed to be for limited government. You disagree with that?

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Stopping people from killing unborn children because they are inconvenient isn't big Gov, it's being a decent person.

The first human right is the right to life. Those self evident rights are inalienable. The constitution doesn't grant rights, it is a restriction on the Gov.

Tomi Lahren, who was the blonde poster child for the right until:

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Typical liberal bigot trying to smear an entire group of people based on one person.

"I’m pro-choice, and here’s why. I am a constitutional, y’know, someone that loves the Constitution. I’m someone that’s for limited government,” she said. “So I can’t sit here and be a hypocrite and say I’m for limited government but I think the government should decide what women do with their bodies. I can sit here and say that, as a Republican and I can say, you know what, I’m for limited government, so stay out of my guns, and you can stay out of my body as well.”

She got jumped by Christians for saying that, not Conservatives.

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News flash, not every conservative or libertarian thinks the same. Murder is murder inside the womb or out.

This should trigger about 3 pages of ridiculous memes ...

Mueller Prosecutors: Trump Did Obstruct Justice
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/04/26/mueller-prosecutors-trump-did-obstruct-justice/

"Privately, the two prosecutors, who were then employed in the special counsel’s office, told other Justice Department officials that had it not been for the unique nature of the case—the investigation of a sitting president of the United States, and one who tried to use the powers of his office to thwart and even close down the special counsel’s investigation—they would have advocated that he face federal criminal charges."

And that, boys & girls, is what "does not exonerate" means.*


* in this context, of course

enlytend said:

This should trigger about 3 pages of ridiculous memes ...

Mueller Prosecutors: Trump Did Obstruct Justice
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/04/26/mueller-prosecutors-trump-did-obstruct-justice/

"Privately, the two prosecutors, who were then employed in the special counsel’s office, told other Justice Department officials that had it not been for the unique nature of the case—the investigation of a sitting president of the United States, and one who tried to use the powers of his office to thwart and even close down the special counsel’s investigation—they would have advocated that he face federal criminal charges."

And that, boys & girls, is what "does not exonerate" means.*


* in this context, of course

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Excellent post enlytend!

What your post will trigger is about 3 pages of anything mr-x, gilsan, dawg and offthehandle can find to post that is not related to this just so they can try and drown it out in hopes you, kate, JB and I will just move on and forget about it.

It's their version of covering it up. They do it All the Time.

lennco said:

Excellent post enlytend!

What your post will tripper is about 3 pages of anything mr-x, gilsan, dawg and offthehandle can find to post that is not related to this just so they can try and drown it out in hopes you, kate, JB and I will just move on and forget about it.

It's their version of covering it up. They do it All the Time.

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POTUS lies to them
His staff lies to them
(Most of) the GOP lies to them
Their chosen media outlets and personalities (like Jones, Hannity, Carlson, and most of the time FOX news) lie to them
Their social media streams (and all the trolls therein) lie to them...

They live in an alternate information universe.

enlytend said:

POTUS lies to them
His staff lies to them
(Most of) the GOP lies to them
Their chosen media outlets and personalities (Jones, Carlson, and most of the time FOX news) lie to them
Their social media streams lie to them...

They live in an alternate information universe.

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Well, maybe either they are all truly Ignorant, or just maybe they are really just a bunch of Russian hacks who's job it is to continue supporting Traitor Trump no matter what.

Just a thought

Memes are life.

enlytend said:

This should trigger about 3 pages of ridiculous memes ...

Mueller Prosecutors: Trump Did Obstruct Justice
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/04/26/mueller-prosecutors-trump-did-obstruct-justice/

"Privately, the two prosecutors, who were then employed in the special counsel’s office, told other Justice Department officials that had it not been for the unique nature of the case—the investigation of a sitting president of the United States, and one who tried to use the powers of his office to thwart and even close down the special counsel’s investigation—they would have advocated that he face federal criminal charges."

And that, boys & girls, is what "does not exonerate" means.*


* in this context, of course

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lennco said:

Well, maybe either they are all truly Ignorant, or just maybe they are really just a bunch of Russian hacks who's job it is to continue supporting Traitor Trump no matter what.

Just a thought

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Propagandized. Drank the kool aid. It’s like a cult. Know any good deprogrammers?

All kidding aside, the worst fallout from this entire sh*tshow is the tribalistic division and the mind games that have been played on people.. It will take years for our country to recover from that, if ever. .

Thankfully, we have non-liars on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, Twitter and FB to keep liberals informed of the current conspiracies, spin normal Gov processes into outrageous situations and fact-check memes.

enlytend said:

POTUS lies to them
His staff lies to them
(Most of) the GOP lies to them
Their chosen media outlets and personalities (like Jones, Carlson, and most of the time FOX news) lie to them
Their social media streams (and all the trolls therein) lie to them...

They live in an alternate information universe.

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Seems like just yesterday a liberal tool in this forum was outraged! OUTRAGED!! Pres. Trump told the State Dept. do whatever it takes to bring an American political prisoner home.

Turns out, the rest of the story; every political prisoner released from NK in the last 3 decades was ransomed.

@lennco

Barack Obama: 1.5% growth is the new normal. Manufacturing jobs aren't coming back.

Donald Trump: Hold my umbrella.

J.P. Freire@JPFreire
The real story in BEA’s report on GDP growth (3.2%, higher than expected!) is that real disposable personal income increased 2.4 percent in the first quarter, following a 4.3 percent increase in the fourth. For months we were told that wages were stagnant.

enlytend said:

Propagandized. Drank the kool aid. It’s like a cult. Know any good deprogrammers?

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There is always the Stanley Kubrick De-Programming Treatment

enlytend said:

All kidding aside, the worst fallout from this entire sh*t show is the tribalistic division and the mind games that have been played on people.. It will take years for our country to recover from that, if ever. .

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I am in my fifties and I believe we will not recover from Trump's destruction in my lifetime

lennco said:

I am in my fifties and I believe we will not recover from Trump's destruction in my lifetime

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Sad but true, from the standpoint of country unity.

Executive orders can be undone or reimplemented, legislation can be passed, better leaders can be elected, we can add judges to SCOTUS, we can reclaim respect and restore dignity to the office, but the divisiveness will be tough to overcome - especially since the disinformation and division campaigns against the country are ongoing.

The growth of the internet has been a great thing in many respects, but the growth of social media on a population that's largely unaware of how easily it can be manipulated and weaponized? That part not so much.

enlytend said:

Sad but true, from the standpoint of country unity.

Executive orders can be undone or reimplemented, legislation can be passed, better leaders can be elected, we can add judges to SCOTUS, we can reclaim respect and restore dignity to the office, but the divisiveness will be tough to overcome - especially since the disinformation and division campaigns against the country are ongoing.

The growth of the internet has been a great thing in many respects, but the growth of social media on a population that's largely unaware of how easily it can be manipulated and weaponized? That part not so much.

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Well said.

Of course racial divisions in our county have been bad well before the Civil War but Trump has managed to make them even worse and may take another couple of hundred years to recover.

mr-x said:

Seems like just yesterday a liberal tool in this forum was outraged! OUTRAGED!!

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Actually, I just posted an article like I normally do. But since you used outraged twice, I'm guessing you were. Such a drama queen.

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Federal judge says Coast Guard officer accused of terror attack plot will be released from detention

A federal judge in Maryland said Thursday that Christopher Hasson, a Coast Guard lieutenant accused of plotting a domestic terror attack, will be released from detention......

Prosecutors say Hasson is a white supremacist who had a hit list that included prominent Democratic politicians as well as several journalists from CNN and MSNBC.........

Oyer referenced President Donald Trump multiple times, comparing her client's racial slurs and targeting of Democrats and the media to similar views that the President has taken.

Oyer said the list of names Hasson had allegedly assembled didn't amount to a hit list but "looks like the sort of list that our commander in chief might have compiled while watching Fox News in the morning."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/hasson-detention-judge/index.html

Defenders actually using Trump as a defense. The Divider in Chief.

lennco said:

Well said.

Of course racial divisions in our county have been bad well before the Civil War but Trump has managed to make them even worse and may take another couple of hundred years to recover.

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Not just racial divisions, idealogical division and tribalisation. I can still remember when you used to be able,to debate political issues with fiends and family wothout people flying into a rage, cutting off ties with families or long time friends - now I’m hearing stories about that all the time. Crazy!!

Personally, I refuse to play that game. I’ll have a thoughtful and respectful conversation about any policy topic with anyone who can do the same ... which I’m proud to say, includes most of my idealogically-opposed friends. (I have classy friends ) Start with the name calling and labels? I won’t throw away a friendship, but I won’t engage in that kind of pointless conversation and I make that very clear.

I haven’t done any big time social media unfriending, but I have snoozed and ignored a few.

And I never ever talk politics with clients. I’m there to help their business succeed - their political views are irrelevant. (But I compartmentalize easily.)

Someone today said they dumped their doctor because FOX news was on in the waiting room. This is just getting insane!

Maria Butina, Who Pleaded Guilty to Conspiring to Influence U.S. Politics, Sentenced to 18 Months in Prison

"Maria Butina, the Russian woman who used gun-rights advocacy to establish ties with the National Rifle Association and attempt to influence U.S. policy in favor of the Kremlin, was sentenced to 18 months in prison."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/maria-...iven-18-months-in-prison-11556293127?mod=e2tw

JB Lions said:

"Maria Butina, the Russian woman who used gun-rights advocacy to establish ties with the National Rifle Association and attempt to influence U.S. policy in favor of the Kremlin, was sentenced to 18 months in prison."

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Good. Wasn't Barr one of the ones saying she should be released?

GROPE AND CHANGE

An Arkansas government youth program coordinator and Democrat Party official who oversaw ticket sales for a fundraiser featuring Hillary Clinton has been arrested for allegedly participating in child porn video chat room sessions.
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lennco said:

What your post will tripper is about 3 pages of anything mr-x, gilsan, dawg and offthehandle can find to post that is not related to this just so they can try and drown it out in hopes you, kate, JB and I will just move on and forget about it.

It's their version of covering it up. They do it All the Time.

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It begins. A trump supporter talking about Biden groping as if this didn't exist - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Or some random guy doing ticket sales, as if Trump wasn't good friends and partied with a pedophile. The stupidity of this, which will just bring Trump's issues back into the spotlight.