GoDaddy Backorders - Any good?

bazabizo said:

Useless. For me they are the best registrar, but worst dropcatchers!

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Agree, they just never put up the resources to compete.

Seems they never will.

equity78 said:

Agree, they just never put up the resources to compete.

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General feeling seems to be that GoDaddy aren't great for backorders, but can somebody clarify whether they are better if the domain that's dropping is currently registered with them.

I currently have a backorder in with GoDaddy for a name registered with them that drops on Tuesday. I'm not clear whether it would be prudent to put in orders with NameJet etc. as well, or if GoDaddy have it covered. Please can someone clarify.

Thanks.

Chances are close to 100% that the expiring domain will be auctioned at Godaddy. The unfortunate part is that your backorder increases your chances by about 0% for getting that name.

Bottom line, Godaddy backorders are worthless. Just monitor the auctions for your name and bid to win.

Follow up to post above. Name dropped yesterday and was caught by Dropcatch. Kicking myself that I didn't put in a backorder with them, nobody else seems to be interested. Fingers crossed it will come up for auction/purchase in the next few days.

Not sure if I was just unlucky with the GoDaddy backorder, but am frustrated that I had to pay out and have nothing to show for it.

I tried GD for backorders for the first time this week. After two failed catches, today I successfully nabbed the third, which is great because it was the best of the three.

NetspaceLTD said:

I tried GD for backorders for the first time this week

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what did pay for the backorders?

I used a coupon so it was like $17 ish, normal is about $25

Sam W said:

General feeling seems to be that GoDaddy aren't great for backorders, but can somebody clarify whether they are better if the domain that's dropping is currently registered with them.

I currently have a backorder in with GoDaddy for a name registered with them that drops on Tuesday. I'm not clear whether it would be prudent to put in orders with NameJet etc. as well, or if GoDaddy have it covered. Please can someone clarify.

Thanks.

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Where does the GoDaddy expired domain goes? when its expires in GoDaddy, I heard, it will go in godaddy auctions, ok so if I backorder from GoDaddy will I get that Domain, before it goes in to the GoDaddy auctions?

No. If it goes to auction it will alert you to that fact and place the first bid for you automatically.

Joe Styler said:

No. If it goes to auction it will alert you to that fact and place the first bid for you automatically.

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So back ordering from the GoDaddy is a waste of time and as well as $ ? We don't don't get the domain? Right?

It depends on what you are trying to do. Backordering a domain before the auction will not give you the domain without anyone else getting a chance to buy it. I am not aware of anywhere you can do that. The backorder ball game changed about a decade ago maybe more with the evolution of Pool.com and continued to evolve until today. I am unaware of any way to get a domain anyone else would be interested in without some competition up front at some point along the expiry cycle.
If you want to use the backorder as a way to help get the domain with competition it is helpful if you use it the right way it will provide you with a discount among other things.

Joe Styler said:

It depends on what you are trying to do. Backordering a domain before the auction will not give you the domain without anyone else getting a chance to buy it. I am not aware of anywhere you can do that. The backorder ball game changed about a decade ago maybe more with the evolution of Pool.com and continued to evolve until today. I am unaware of any way to get a domain anyone else would be interested in without some competition up front at some point along the expiry cycle.
If you want to use the backorder as a way to help get the domain with competition it is helpful if you use it the right way it will provide you with a discount among other things.

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Hi Joe, your response is confusing. On the GoDaddy site it mentions that if one backorders the domain and it expires, it will be registered to the individual if no one else backorders (screenshot attached). Your statement above, however, seems to convey that it 'mandatorily' goes for auction. Kindly clarify

Vimal Kumar said:

Hi Joe, your response is confusing. On the GoDaddy site it mentions that if one backorders the domain and it expires, it will be registered to the individual if no one else backorders (screenshot attached). Your statement above, however, seems to convey that it 'mandatorily' goes for auction. Kindly clarify

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It goes to auction. Just happened to me recently on an extremely niche name that most no one would ever want to bid on. Sure enough, with about 3 or so days left on auction at $10 someone outbid me and won the name for almost $xxx. Name still isn't resolving anywhere and I can't wait to see who would pay this for a name that is worthless to most all domainers and end users - I had some dev plans for this one but I guess my backorder money is gone and that's the end of that.

Joe Styler said:

It depends on what you are trying to do. Backordering a domain before the auction will not give you the domain without anyone else getting a chance to buy it. I am not aware of anywhere you can do that.

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Wow, that's news to me that all your backorders go to auction. I've successfully backordered names elsewhere (Dynadot, for instance) which certainly don't get sent to auction if no one else backorders them. Dropcatch is the same.

Good timing, though, I just placed a backorder on Godaddy that I will most definitely remove immediately and make sure I never use your backorders again.

Nametree said:

Wow, that's news to me that all your backorders go to auction. I've successfully backordered names elsewhere (Dynadot, for instance) which certainly don't get sent to auction if no one else backorders them. Dropcatch is the same.

Good timing, though, I just placed a backorder on Godaddy that I will most definitely remove immediately and make sure I never use your backorders again.

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I am hoping @Joe Styler will respond. The attchment I have provided clearly shows the GoDaddy site stating that if only 1 backorder is for that domain, it goes directly to that person. Only in cases of multiple backorders , it goes for auction. Joe would need to clarify this discrepency between his statement and what the site says. I too just placed a backorder with an expectation no others will backorder. After reading Joe's statement here, I am surprised. If his comments are true, I would cancel my backorder.

creataweb said:

It goes to auction. Just happened to me recently on an extremely niche name that most no one would ever want to bid on. Sure enough, with about 3 or so days left on auction at $10 someone outbid me and won the name for almost $xxx. Name still isn't resolving anywhere and I can't wait to see who would pay this for a name that is worthless to most all domainers and end users - I had some dev plans for this one but I guess my backorder money is gone and that's the end of that.

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you can get a refund on your backorder if you do not wind up using it.

Nametree said:

Wow, that's news to me that all your backorders go to auction. I've successfully backordered names elsewhere (Dynadot, for instance) which certainly don't get sent to auction if no one else backorders them. Dropcatch is the same.

Good timing, though, I just placed a backorder on Godaddy that I will most definitely remove immediately and make sure I never use your backorders again.

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It doesn't matter if you backorder the domain or not it is going to end up at the same places and follow the same lifecycle. There are benefits and risks associated with backordering and also not backordering. I think it is better to understand what happens with a domain when it expires and the various points of entry for purchasing that expired domain, venues, etc before you make a decision.
If it were me I would reach out to the auction support team or your account representative if you have one and tell them the domain you want to get after it expires and they can walk you through the best way to try and get that particular domain.

Vimal Kumar said:

I am hoping @Joe Styler will respond. The attchment I have provided clearly shows the GoDaddy site stating that if only 1 backorder is for that domain, it goes directly to that person. Only in cases of multiple backorders , it goes for auction. Joe would need to clarify this discrepency between his statement and what the site says. I too just placed a backorder with an expectation no others will backorder. After reading Joe's statement here, I am surprised. If his comments are true, I would cancel my backorder.

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That is true. I think your misunderstanding is based on the domain name lifecycle and what transpires after a domain name expires. It is a long process with some caveats and not something I have time to write up at the moment. I would be surprised if there are not other threads detailing this.
This is an 83 minute interview with an expert on what happens when a domain expires and it explains backordering in more depth. https://www.domainsherpa.com/chris-ambler-domain-name-expiration/
This is 5 years old but more or less accurate and will explain what you are asking. It's 53 minutes.

Nametree said:

Wow, that's news to me that all your backorders go to auction. I've successfully backordered names elsewhere (Dynadot, for instance) which certainly don't get sent to auction if no one else backorders them. Dropcatch is the same.

Good timing, though, I just placed a backorder on Godaddy that I will most definitely remove immediately and make sure I never use your backorders again.

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Please see my last reply to get a better idea of how backorders work with us and how the domain lifecycle works.

Joe Styler said:

It doesn't matter if you backorder the domain or not it is going to end up at the same places and follow the same lifecycle. There are benefits and risks associated with backordering and also not backordering. I think it is better to understand what happens with a domain when it expires and the various points of entry for purchasing that expired domain, venues, etc before you make a decision.
If it were me I would reach out to the auction support team or your account representative if you have one and tell them the domain you want to get after it expires and they can walk you through the best way to try and get that particular domain.

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The lifecycle of a domain name differs from one registrar to another. It is confusing when a "backorder" means different things from one registrar to another.

Presuming I and only I am interested in a domain name that is about to be deleted, I thought it should make no difference whether I use, say, Dynadot, or Godaddy, to backorder a name.

Based on the above, though -

- if I go with Dynadot, I will get the name (again, presuming I and only I am interested and no one else placed a backorder at Dropcatch, NJ, etc)
- if I go with Godaddy, that backorder somehow sends the name through the expiry stream, placing it on the radar of others who will be more likely to notice it if they follow Godaddy expirations (and making it less likely for me to get it at the same price - the price of a backorder - that I would otherwise)

no that is not correct which is why i advise you watch the videos. Typing out the entire lifecycle especially including other registrars would be extremely time consuming and not something I would be able to do. The video and domain sherpa interview are both an hour or so long and they will explain what you are asking in depth as is needed for a question like this.

Joe Styler said:

you can get a refund on your backorder if you do not wind up using it.

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Asked support and they said no refund

creataweb said:

Asked support and they said no refund

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pm me the info and i will refund it for you.

Joe Styler said:

pm me the info and i will refund it for you.

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Sure thing. thanks - without you we'd be lost here most of the time