Namesilo, <- Selective SCAMMER!

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 17, 2019

Never use their escrow to make your private deals with your partners! They will scam you by saying your account is deactivated due to fraud! All my partners used their legitimate PayPal accounts and own funds to make the deals. They just deadlocked your fund and scam it!

Official response from NameSilo:

https://www.namepros.com/posts/7153157/

branding · Mar 18, 2019

LiglerJaidin86 said:
Nope I'm still here. Story will continue no worry

Cool. Now grow a pair and get yourself an honest job.

I'm all for seizing opportunity but people like you disgust me. No ethics, no honour. You got caught doing something (probably) illegal. Own up to it instead of bashing a reputable company and insulting respectable people and basically being a disgrace to humankind in general.

If you want to succeed in business, and continue down this road you might get there but you will have failed as a man.

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 18, 2019

NameDeck said:
Cool. Now grow a pair and get yourself an honest job.

I'm all for seizing opportunity but people like you disgust me. No ethics, no honour. You got caught doing something (probably) illegal. Own up to it instead of bashing a reputable company and insulting respectable people and basically being a disgrace to humankind in general.

If you want to succeed in business, and continue down this road you might get there but you will have failed as a man.

Thanks for your words, we are in different levels and I have some insights which you are in lack of. Try to have more biz with them and you will understand.

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 18, 2019

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NameDeck said:
Cool. Now grow a pair and get yourself an honest job.

I'm all for seizing opportunity but people like you disgust me. No ethics, no honour. You got caught doing something (probably) illegal. Own up to it instead of bashing a reputable company and insulting respectable people and basically being a disgrace to humankind in general.

If you want to succeed in business, and continue down this road you might get there but you will have failed as a man.

Between wanna let you know, using their platform in another unusual way is not necessarily scamming them. Please be logical. If it is that easy, no one will join PP as merchant and it already door closed for decades... Got it man? That's your sign of view is different from me. Be wider and you can earn much more morally!

golan · Mar 18, 2019

LiglerJaidin86 said:
Try to have more biz with them and you will understand.

I'm sure most of the people here who replied to you here have and/or had tens or hundreds times more domains on Namesilo through the years than your three domains.

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 18, 2019

golan said:
I'm sure most of the people here who replied to you here have and/or had tens or hundreds times more domains on Namesilo through the years than your three domains.

Honestly, I have not less than hundreds too. The point is, they are too sensitive to assume a scamming user. When you use it in an unusual way (not necessarily scamming them), they will assume you are! Here is US right? A place taking about freedom, respect and justice? Hm... Is NS a judge? Even they encountering real scammers, did they have right to "punish" and hold suspect's fund, without good communication? Tell me.

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 18, 2019

I'm here not to bargain for any refunds from them (will forward to PayPal claim instead), but just want to show you guys some story behind this company and how they treat itself as a "judge in court" and "punish" you by holding your funds illegally. This is no difference from what a scammer acts. We tried Namecheap and they handled it professionally. Get it?

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 18, 2019

NameDeck said:
Sh*tty domains... Oh wait, they blocked his account so I guess he doesn't have that either.

@namesilo @NYJimbo @NameDeck

I'm here waiting for reply from your bigboss. They did reply here but the post was disappeared. How come a "reputable" company acting like that? My question is simple. Are you holding my money legally now?

When you lose your money and know who is holding you, you do ask that party but it does escape from you all the time. How "reputable" it is?

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 18, 2019

@namesilo

Why not answer me straightly? If you are right, do resolve it here. I did everything here obeying your rules and also PayPals rules. What's my fault? Did you lose money from my trade? I paid you commission too. Dare to tell me here? Also tell your story to your fans here.

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 18, 2019

@NYJimbo

Thanks for your hard work to your boss, you will be granted big discount after that. I like your "unlike" frankly. You are like my fans in chasing me all the way

Keep doing it well done

branding · Mar 18, 2019

LiglerJaidin86 said:
Thanks for your words, we are in different levels and I have some insights which you are in lack of. Try to have more biz with them and you will understand.

I have been a client of them since the early days both for my personal portfolio and for various businesses. They have been in business for what? 2 decades now?. Trust me, if there were out there to scam people I wouldn't have been using them all this time. In fact they're one of the few registrars I know will step in to help me out when there are domain issues that need urgent attendance.

LiglerJaidin86 said:
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Between wanna let you know, using their platform in another unusual way is not necessarily scamming them. Please be logical. If it is that easy, no one will join PP as merchant and it already door closed for decades... Got it man? That's your sign of view is different from me. Be wider and you can earn much more morally!

There's nothing to gain morally from what you're doing.

LiglerJaidin86 said:
Honestly, I have not less than hundreds too. The point is, they are too sensitive to assume a scamming user. When you use it in an unusual way (not necessarily scamming them), they will assume you are! Here is US right? A place taking about freedom, respect and justice? Hm... Is NS a judge? Even they encountering real scammers, did they have right to "punish" and hold suspect's fund, without good communication? Tell me.

That's the flaw in your reasoning. With freedom comes great responsibility as well. Not only do they have the right to suspend funds, they also have the legal obligation to do so when they can reasonably assume somebody is using their platform to commit fraud.

LiglerJaidin86 said:
I'm here not to bargain for any refunds from them (will forward to PayPal claim instead), but just want to show you guys some story behind this company and how they treat itself as a "judge in court" and "punish" you by holding your funds illegally. This is no difference from what a scammer acts. We tried Namecheap and they handled it professionally. Get it?

Now who do you think PayPal is gonna believe after all that you have posted in here? Your definitely did not help your case by engaging into a lot of drama.

LiglerJaidin86 said:
@namesilo @NYJimbo @NameDeck

I'm here waiting for reply from your bigboss. They did reply here but the post was disappeared. How come a "reputable" company acting like that? My question is simple. Are you holding my money legally now?

When you lose your money and know who is holding you, you do ask that party but it does escape from you all the time. How "reputable" it is?

I have no boss. I answer to no one but God. But I'll answer your question. Yes, they are holding your money legally. The difference being, we are civilized after all, in the end they will probably release it back to the original paypal account and go on with their day. Is they wouldn't as compensation for abusing their platform I could understand and trust them to act fully within the boundaries of the law.

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 18, 2019

Appreciate your reply and there are some points which I would clarify.

NameDeck said:
I have been a client of them since the early days both for my personal portfolio and for various businesses. They have been in business for what? 2 decades now?. Trust me, if there were out there to scam people I wouldn't have been using them all this time. In fact they're one of the few registrars I know will step in to help me out when there are domain issues that need urgent attendance.

Well, you are a straight-forward user of them. Does it mean 100% of users should use it in a way replicated yours? Given we don't make loss to them. Don't be narrow-minded. You only know a little or around 30% about the e-commerce world nowadays from your reply.

NameDeck said:
There's nothing to gain morally from what you're doing.

You are wrong. Do you know what I was doing for? Just make a trade and file a chargeback? that easy again!? PayPal is not idiot as you said. How much I can take for this, $100, or $200 here? Are you kidding me?

NameDeck said:
That's the flaw in your reasoning. With freedom comes great responsibility as well. Not only do they have the right to suspend funds, they also have the legal obligation to do so when they can reasonably assume somebody is using their platform to commit fraud.

Yes, they can hold it for a while but not ignoring the suspected users. This is what we called professionalism.

NameDeck said:
Now who do you think PayPal is gonna believe after all that you have posted in here? Your definitely did not help your case by engaging into a lot of drama.

Believe me for what? Fact can tell. Our accounts are legitimate and aged. All funds are clean. It is all our factual data stored in PayPal's database. Now time is far from new stone age.

NameDeck said:
I have no boss. I answer to no one but God. But I'll answer your question. Yes, they are holding your money legally. The difference being, we are civilized after all, in the end they will probably release it back to the original paypal account and go on with their day. Is they wouldn't as compensation for abusing their platform I could understand and trust them to act fully within the boundaries of the law.

"in the end they will probably release it back to the original paypal account" ---> questionable if no one filed a claim. NS will "forget" and naturally take it away, trusting me. This is the source of the topic we ranting around here. The amount is very tiny in our business scale and we expect to lose it with no pressure. But, we can't endure what this "reputable" company did to us.

"Is they wouldn't as compensation for abusing their platform I could understand" ---> this is an uncivilized thought. For a civilized society, all decisions and actions are governed by ToS, black-and-white stuffs. We were not going to make them losing money throughout the deal. For this point, I have a very strong ground. Otherwise, I won't write too much here. Scammers won't do that, please realise this.

MasterOfMyDomains · Mar 18, 2019

alcy said:
i guess we wont be seein ligerjaidin86 again any time soon

thanks for the laughs

He is still here, at least one account.
Boot this piece of shit out here @Support Team
This guy really just making fun of namepros now. And of course insulting namesilo.
They explained how @LiglerJaidin86 was attempting to rip them off via paypal chargebacks.
Maybe if you read that post, and thread in its entirety you would flush him down the toilet.
Thanks for understanding haha

NameLlama · Mar 18, 2019

Please visit a psychiatrist, thanks

Kate · Mar 18, 2019

Anybody who posts accusations should provide full facts and timeline of events. Especially when you are a newly-registered anonymous troll that nobody knows and can vouch for.
That has not been done probably for obvious reasons. The facts don't look good.

MapleDots · Mar 18, 2019

BRANDERX · Mar 18, 2019

This clown is still posting.

Careful, NameSilo may get you, through Interpol or something.

I've seen them threaten legal action against people accusing them of stuff.

You should know, to many(including myself) NameSilo is a favorite & this is going nowhere.

On a different note, i've seen others tag NP management, I really don't understand why this fool's account hasn't been restricted.

branding · Mar 18, 2019

LiglerJaidin86 said:
Appreciate your reply and there are some points which I would clarify.

Well, you are a straight-forward user of them. Does it mean 100% of users should use it in a way replicated yours? Given we don't make loss to them. Don't be narrow-minded. You only know a little or around 30% about the e-commerce world nowadays from your reply.

You are wrong. Do you know what I was doing for? Just make a trade and file a chargeback? that easy again!? PayPal is not idiot as you said. How much I can take for this, $100, or $200 here? Are you kidding me?

Yes, they can hold it for a while but not ignoring the suspected users. This is what we called professionalism.

Believe me for what? Fact can tell. Our accounts are legitimate and aged. All funds are clean. It is all our factual data stored in PayPal's database. Now time is far from new stone age.

"in the end they will probably release it back to the original paypal account" ---> questionable if no one filed a claim. NS will "forget" and naturally take it away, trusting me. This is the source of the topic we ranting around here. The amount is very tiny in our business scale and we expect to lose it with no pressure. But, we can't endure what this "reputable" company did to us.

"Is they wouldn't as compensation for abusing their platform I could understand" ---> this is an uncivilized thought. For a civilized society, all decisions and actions are governed by ToS, black-and-white stuffs. We were not going to make them losing money throughout the deal. For this point, I have a very strong ground. Otherwise, I won't write too much here. Scammers won't do that, please realise this.

I could go on but I'm done with this. There's no point in trying to educate the unwilling. Hats off to @namesilo for closely monitoring your marketplace. Another reason to continue using your service.

DomainsMaven · Mar 18, 2019

LiglerJaidin86 said:
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Between wanna let you know, using their platform in another unusual way is not necessarily scamming them. Please be logical. If it is that easy, no one will join PP as merchant and it already door closed for decades... Got it man? That's your sign of view is different from me. Be wider and you can earn much more morally!

No one believes me...

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 19, 2019

Kate said:
Anybody who posts accusations should provide full facts and timeline of events. Especially when you are a newly-registered anonymous troll that nobody knows and can vouch for.
That has not been done probably for obvious reasons. The facts don't look good.

The timeline and event are very simple. We wanted to try the UX of marketplace here. We had 3 accounts. All topped with verified PayPal accounts. Yes the transactions are self made.

Account A with 3 domains.
Account B, a buyer
Account C, a buyer

B bought 2 from A
C bought 1 from A

After 7 days, accounts A and C we were blocked. And B wrote an email to NS that no worry about the fund source, all legitimate. After that email, C got blocked too.

All got blocked is acceptable if they don't feel uncomfortable to complete those deals. But, no follow up and they won't respond to you. You have to raise claims in PayPal to restore all messy stuffs here.

Comparing with namecheap, this is huge difference. They are more educated and won't assume that you are scammers. Honestly, real scammers won't bother with that small amount and their cost was probably stolen from the other sources too. They won't care in case failed but try next. Time is everything. I'm here is for REAL JUSTICE!

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 19, 2019

namesilo said:
Hi everyone,
First - thank you to the community for backing us here.

This is a standard mo of these kinds of abusers of our platform. They produce multiple identities (as they let everyone know earlier here) and sign up for paypal and namesilo accounts. They then purchase cheap domains and sell them to themselves for a large markup. In this case, one of the domains was 'sold' 2 days after purchase. After requesting and receiving the sale money to a new account paypal account for their 'sale', they either keep the fraud going with other emails and accounts or eventually request a charge back from paypal of which there is no seller (namesilo) protection and we lose the money.

Did you have any evidence that those users making you loss of money and also did they call for chargeback already? If yes please do show it here, as a reputable company.

In what way you can be a judge and hold their money without follow up? In a civilised society, should you treat suspects as the "scammers" you called without compelling evidence? Are you a judge of a court?

In case yes they are scammers but if you hold their funds (not your money) with no return, you are no difference from what those scammers initial intention: to take the advantages from the others!

If they aren't, you will be real commiting illegal activity, again that is not your money, Namesilo!

I would raise those points here rationally and logicially.

Kate · Mar 19, 2019

Indeed it's very simple.
When someone creates multiple accounts on a platform it raises alarm bells. While there may be legitimate reasons (compartmentalization of assets), when there are monetary transactions being set up involving fresh domains and dodgy whois (and new user accounts) it's clear an abnormal pattern is taking shape.
You are probably not familiar with risk & fraud control procedures.
At this point it is very understandable they have doubts on your motives and your identity.

Maybe if you had been more upfront with them (and with us) they would look at you differently.
Instead you chose to slander a legitimate business without providing the full facts.

Can you prove that you are to not trying to cash out money from a hijacked paypal account for example ?
Sorry but it does not look good. When I see stuff like this taking place on our platforms I definitely want to know who we are dealing with. Strangely, some 'UX testers' prefer to vanish rather than verify their identity

LiglerJaidin86 · Mar 19, 2019

Kate said:
Indeed it's very simple.
When someone creates multiple accounts on a platform it raises alarm bells. While there may be legitimate reasons (compartmentalization of assets), when there are monetary transactions being set up involving fresh domains and dodgy whois (and new user accounts) it's clear an abnormal pattern is taking shape.
You are probably not familiar with risk & fraud control procedures.
At this point it is very understandable they have doubts on your motives and your identity.

Maybe if you had been more upfront with them (and with us) they would look at you differently.
Instead you chose to slander a legitimate business without providing the full facts.

Can you prove that you are to not trying to cash out money from a hijacked paypal account for example ?
Sorry but it does not look good. When I see stuff like this taking place on our platforms I definitely want to know who we are dealing with. Strangely, some 'UX testers' prefer to vanish rather than verify their identity

Cool thanks for your understanding, well yes we already filed claims via PayPal, if the funds were from stolen accounts or credit cards, our accounts won't survive and be limited by PayPal. The point is, what proof you would want to see. I can screenshot or provide the claim class id publicly here.

Also, I did contact them but they just ignore me. No follow up and for a professional company, they should face the facts at top. Honestly, scammers won't rant here. It is rather time consuming and not a cost effective way to scam biggest.

Paul · Mar 27, 2019

@LiglerJaidin86, if you could kindly stop making new accounts just to like your own posts and dislike @namesilo's posts, that'd be greatly appreciated. You're up to 19 accounts including your original.

I understand you're upset, but lying about the number of people who agree with you isn't an acceptable way to resolve this situation.

MapleDots · Mar 28, 2019

Paul Buonopane said:
@LiglerJaidin86, if you could kindly stop making new accounts just to like your own posts and dislike @namesilo's posts, that'd be greatly appreciated. You're up to 19 accounts including your original.

I understand you're upset, but lying about the number of people who agree with you isn't an acceptable way to resolve this situation.

HeHe..... I stopped posting here because I suspected that, I just had a hunch and figured it was a lost cause.

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