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I found it quirky. A guy can show off with that. A wife can purchase if she wants to gift her man with it (Pictures of them together. What all he has done for her. etc etc). LOL.
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Don't worry about the $ amount. Worry about the % return.
I can flip a $1,000 domain for $1,005 but that is a waste of my time and hopefully yours. But if you can flip a $50 domain for $150, then that is a much better use of your time, because it should take the same amount of work.
Mine would be all hand registry. Never taken premium. And I think it will be some time before I learn to pay any bit more than registrar cost.
Paying 50$ is also not something which I'm comfortable with considering I am not confident about my choices. I may just blow up all my money, 50$ at a time! (Till I learn)
So I am looking at lets say <10$ flipping for 20$ 30$ like that. Is it viable, possible, popular?
I would not plan that as a gameplan. Only register names with quality that you think might sell for significant amounts. What that level is can be debated. If doing it as side gig, not main source of income, mid $$$ can work. All that said if you have decided to abandon a domain I am a proponent of trying to sell at $$ to at least more than recoup costs.
Bob
Many domainers will tell you they buy and sell hand-regged names all the time, 99% of it is BS, unless iys to fellow domainers for reg price or less
Personally I have a single hyphen domain name in a portfolio of 250+. But if considering a name where Europe is a likely market, or where I could obtain one at a value price for the name, I do consider them.Avoid hyphens and numbers in donains
A few pointers to help you out
Quality over quantity
Shorter is usually better, there are exceptions
Rather pay $200 or $500 for 1 or 2 names that you can sell, dont fall for the newbie registration frenzy and rack up 100 hand registered names and think you will sell them, you wont and will get a nice renewal shock 12 months from now
Once you underatand domain value, which will take months of reading, email existing owners to try and negotiate a bargain
Dont go and hand register available names, it doesnt work unless you really understand domaims, marketing and brands. Many domainers will tell you they buy and sell hand-regged names all the time, 99% of it is BS, unless iys to fellow domainers for reg price or less
Avoid strange extensions and weak cctlds, focus on .com until you have made some sales. Then reinvest that money to buy another name.
Avoid hyphens and numbers in donains
I simply disagree with this statement. I respectfully believe it is stating something as fact that is not supported by evidence. Go to the Report Completed Sales Here thread on NPs. Scroll through a statistically significant number of pages. Look in particular at sales price, acquisition and hold time. A couple of us have done analysis of a portion of the data. It clearly shows a lot of hand reg sales at significant prices (by significant I mean above median .com sales prices, not significant as in $$$$$).
So is the explanation that 99% are BS as the poster claims. Quite apart from that being a harsh (and I would argue unfounded) assertion and condemnation of many many active NPs members, what exactly is the payoff for anyone posting fake sales to the thread? Maybe attempt to win stature. But think about how easy it would be to disprove a sale if someone looks into it. Any of us can check if the domain name changed ownership. Also, we can check using archival tools if it was listed on the marketplace where it was claimed to sell and is now gone. But maybe they just lie on price you say? So why would someone inflate a price on a public venue that national tax authorities could, and probably do on occasion, check. Are there fake sales reported by members? Many of the marketplaces have active representations on NPs, and there is some chance that a false claim of a sale would be noticed by that person and reported. In the thousands and thousands of sales I am sure there probably are a few. Are 99% fake. That, in my opinion, is not true.
It is unfortunate that a post with some good advice (emphasize quality over quantity and take time to really know markets before acquiring much) also goes on to state some things not supported by evidence.
It is also important to realize that parts of like the following are something to consider but should not be treated as absolute rules not to be broken, in my opinion. There are of course some numbered domains and even number letter combinations that sell for good value, and in some markets, especially parts of Europe, hyphens are not only accepted but sometimes preferred. If for example you look at .de (to narrow results to that market) about 15% of sales include hyphens.
Personally I have a single hyphen domain name in a portfolio of 250+. But if considering a name where Europe is a likely market, or where I could obtain one at a value price for the name, I do consider them.
Bob
Quite apart from that being a harsh (and I would argue unfounded) assertion and condemnation of many many active NPs members, what exactly is the payoff for anyone posting fake sales to the thread?
In the thousands and thousands of sales I am sure there probably are a few. Are 99% fake. That, in my opinion, is not true.
I simply disagree with this statement. I respectfully believe it is stating something as fact that is not supported by evidence. Go to the Report Completed Sales Here thread on NPs. Scroll through a statistically significant number of pages. Look in particular at sales price, acquisition and hold time. A couple of us have done analysis of a portion of the data. It clearly shows a lot of hand reg sales at significant prices (by significant I mean above median .com sales prices, not significant as in $$$$$).
So is the explanation that 99% are BS as the poster claims. Quite apart from that being a harsh (and I would argue unfounded) assertion and condemnation of many many active NPs members, what exactly is the payoff for anyone posting fake sales to the thread? Maybe attempt to win stature. But think about how easy it would be to disprove a sale if someone looks into it. Any of us can check if the domain name changed ownership. Also, we can check using archival tools if it was listed on the marketplace where it was claimed to sell and is now gone. But maybe they just lie on price you say? So why would someone inflate a price on a public venue that national tax authorities could, and probably do on occasion, check. Are there fake sales reported by members? Many of the marketplaces have active representations on NPs, and there is some chance that a false claim of a sale would be noticed by that person and reported. In the thousands and thousands of sales I am sure there probably are a few. Are 99% fake. That, in my opinion, is not true.
It is unfortunate that a post with some good advice (emphasize quality over quantity and take time to really know markets before acquiring much) also goes on to state some things not supported by evidence.
It is also important to realize that parts of like the following are something to consider but should not be treated as absolute rules not to be broken, in my opinion. There are of course some numbered domains and even number letter combinations that sell for good value, and in some markets, especially parts of Europe, hyphens are not only accepted but sometimes preferred. If for example you look at .de (to narrow results to that market) about 15% of sales include hyphens.
Personally I have a single hyphen domain name in a portfolio of 250+. But if considering a name where Europe is a likely market, or where I could obtain one at a value price for the name, I do consider them.
Bob
I don't agree with most of the others who are saying that the word locations are what kills this domain the most.
What kills this domain the most is a combination of the low commercial value of the name and the $80 renewal price for that TLD .
I would not stay away from all ngtlds, but certainly stay away from any that have such high renewal prices. The reason is because you will likely never sell a ngtld in a years time, so those renewal prices will kill all your profits.
Glad to help.
OK so First, let me give you few information about our .Best pricing strategy as I think this is one of the big important change we made.
So;
1. On the registration side, we already set promotions with different registrars for all this year.
.Best domains were at $1 last month with OVH and this month (only valid until end of March), .Best are in promotion at $1.99 at Dynadot.com so I encourage you to benefit of this promo right now coz a lot of big names are "still" available.
2. On the renewal side, we already inform all our registrars on Feb 5th that we will get down the wholesale renewal price at $15 ! As we have a legal notice of 6 months, it means that registrars should change their .Best renewal price on 5th August max ! So it means that all the "non-premiums" domains that you register right now will be renew at $15 wholesale price next year and the years after.
Hope it helps.
Many domainers will tell you they buy and sell hand-regged names all the time, 99% of it is BS, unless its to fellow domainers for reg price or less
I urge each person to read a number of pages of the thread and form their own conclusions. In fact a couple of months ago I was interested in where domains were selling and looked at about a month of the thread, and was surprised that well over half were hand-reg which I defined as hand reg by the person that sold them, so I think would qualify as hand reg by your definition.You will also find most of the sales on the thread are not hand registered names and if they are, most are not recent hand regged names (2018/2019)
I was surprised that when I checked many of the names in the hand-reg Feb .com contest although registered in the month as hand-reg (including my own entry I discovered), had been registered on and off in the past and expired. I think knowing that, or if it is currently registered, is one data point in evaluating a domain name, but only one. And how legitimately there are end users for a name is the one consideration that trumps all others, in my humble opinion.You can debate the actual statistics, but there is really no debating that the average registered domain is higher quality than the average unregistered domain
In one of the posts yesterday, someone apparently from the .best registry informed that renewals will be 15$. Not sure if this is going to happen. If it does, saves me some. See below.
Well I went and read that thread. But here's what I say.
Even if they renewals come down to $15, it's still not a good domain given it's low commercial value.
Then, when you take into consideration they are planning a social site around the .best TLD, where they are encouraging people to reviews stuff, that also does not make your domain look good. I mean, what commercial value does a review site for husbands have?
BUT, if the renewal price does come down, it may have some "sentimental" value for some wife who adores her husband. That's all the value I can see, personally.
I think this thread is getting pretty far from the initial topic, but I did want to respond to those who have kindly responded to me above.
First thank you for your clarification, @gilescoley that your statement (below) was only intended to refer to those who say they sell hand-reg without actually listing them. I interpreted your statement as saying that those who report (e.g. in Report Completed Sales Here thread) regular sales of hand-regs are 99% fake, and that is why I responded strongly to your post. My apologies. It was only after you explained it that the thought of interpreting your statement in the way that you meant it occurred to me (although with that explanation I do see it might be interpreted that way).
In your most recent post you say the following:
I urge each person to read a number of pages of the thread and form their own conclusions. In fact a couple of months ago I was interested in where domains were selling and looked at about a month of the thread, and was surprised that well over half were hand-reg which I defined as hand reg by the person that sold them, so I think would qualify as hand reg by your definition.
About the same time top member @Trent1000 did a far more extensive survey of a whole year of data (but just looking at names that sold after outbound, that I agree would bias towards hand reg and geo to some degree). Anyway his superb analysis of 200+ self-reported sales over an entire year found that 78% had been hand reg, a number consistent (considering bias for outbound) with the roughly 64% I found in my monthly analysis of all self-reported domain sales on the thread. You can see his complete analysis that looks at rices, where sold, types of names etc. at this link. Analysis is for 2018 year.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/namepros-reported-outbound-sales-of-2018-analysis.1117029/
I like almost everything you say @bmugford in your reply above. Agree that most new, including me, chased too many low quality hand-reg in early days of domaining excitement/addiction and new should be encouraged to go slow and seek quality (in fact in my advice to new domain investors written last year my first three points from a long list are start slowly, be realistic and choose quality over quantity).
While agreeing with your statement below (although lots of registered domains are low quality we would both agree I think!) ignoring hand-reg possibilities, or seeing value just because a domain name has been registered a long time, can lead to less than optimum decisions, in my opinion.
I was surprised that when I checked many of the names in the hand-reg Feb .com contest although registered in the month as hand-reg (including my own entry I discovered), had been registered on and off in the past and expired. I think knowing that, or if it is currently registered, is one data point in evaluating a domain name, but only one. And how legitimately there are end users for a name is the one consideration that trumps all others, in my humble opinion.
Bob
My understanding is he used all that were posted in that thread that were stated as outbound contact. Re hand reg I think he just went by if they said that.have seen that analysis before by trent100, the question is "when" were the names he used for that hand-regged? And also are the regular new guys claiming to make regular sales part of that analysis?
Does not reporting age help hand regs sell?