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Labeled as domain in Domain Appraisal started by Va S, Mar 2, 2019.

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  1. Va S

    Va S Established Member

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    Please value

    Thanks!
     
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  2. barman

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    Wrong order. Best.husband would be the combination someone would want in a new gTLD.

    So, $0.
     
  3. creataweb

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    $0

    A free tip, if English is not your main language maybe ask a friend before buying backwards combos.
     
  4. gilescoley

    gilescoley Top Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    $0 for this one, focus on strong extensions
     
  5. Va S

    Va S Established Member

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    Thanks for taking out time to reply.

    @barman
    Is .husband extension available for registration? I didn't find it from GoDaddy.
    I am not hoping for $$/$$$/$$$$ but I just thought it is a quirky one. Didn't pay big bucks for it, so I'm good.
    When best.husband isn't available, maybe I would get someone for husband.best? Only time will tell.

    @creataweb, Nice DP!
    I am good at English, thank you. Not great at domaining, though. Can you please give me some tips about what really is a good backward combo? Could use some help next time I am looking for buying something.
    If you are getting sarcasm in my reply, you are getting it wrong folks.

    @gilescoley I am sure besthusband.com would be big bucks, not even going to look for it. Paid cheap for this, so am fine with anything. Just trying my luck :)

    I know Godaddy appraisals are not to be taken seriously, but on a funny note, Wife.best was valued at $1000 and husband.best was valued at just $180. I tweeted Godaddy about it, just for fun - Look up Vadhi8 on twitter.

    Cheers, folks. Thanks again.
     
  6. barman

    barman Established Member

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    When you're dealing with ngtlds you want the phrasing to be correct English, not backwards.

    If .husband isn't available, then it's not a high value keyword to begin with so you should just stick to .com.

    If .husband were available... well, may God have mercy on us all.
     
  7. Va S

    Va S Established Member

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    LOL. Yeah, God have mercy on us, if .wife and .husband were available.

    Thanks.
     
  8. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    OK let me first make clear that I don't disagree with those who find there is probably little value in the domain name. As a stretch I could see it used for a blog, a social media related site, perhaps related to a television show or book, etc. That being said I would also offer the following....

    While agreeing that proper language is important to value, like in most things domaining, I view this as more a guide than an absolute rule. We have only :xf.wink: 500+ available extensions, so not every word combination can be done in the best order. Do they sometimes sell reversed? I would argue that most would suggest the following should be reversed for for best English, but they all (among many other examples) sold:
    • sex.live $160,000
    • porn.live $120,000
    • education.global $30,000 (and many other global sales)
    • toy.top $12,650
    • milk.top $12,520 (and many many other .top domain sales including domain.top at $10,000)
    It's not that I am saying they are nonsense in the order sold, but would argue if it were possible to reverse the expression would be stronger. Also, would stress that the vast majority of combinations that sell are in the right order so not disputing that.

    Finally let me point out the following. I think most would say that buy(.)game sounds a little unnatural and buy(.)games is more usual English wording. It was noted above that the limited sales on extension rule out value for this .best extension name. So if a week ago I asked you to evaluate buy(.)game i suspect both arguments would be made against it, only a single prior sale in the extension (interestingly itself), and wording close but not quite perfect and another extension offers better wording. Yet this week buy(.)game sold for $29,999!

    It is to our peril if we rely too strongly on black and white rules or guides. Yes, they are helpful, but always took at all angles.

    JMHO

    Bob

    ps Since this is an appraisal thread, if I owned the name I would price it low $$$ with BIN and hope that someone would take it for a blog or personal website.
     
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  9. bmugford

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    Registering domains like this is a waste of time.
    Realistically, who is going to pay a premium price for husband.best?

    Brad
     
  10. gilescoley

    gilescoley Top Member PRO VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Even BestHusband.com, this is not a great name with very limited end-users

    If you really have your mind set on a name like this, you are better off getting a names like BestHusband.co or TopHusband.com, which are available, and at least they are recognised extensions.
     
  11. johnnie018

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    Agree even the top of the tree is terribly! You are at the beginning level, stage one, stop registering, bad bad bad terrible.
     
  12. Va S

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    @Bob Hawkes Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. Really appreciate it.

    @bmugford, I paid 2$ for it. Found it quirky. Not expecting top dollar. Looking to develop it. Lets see.

    @gilescoley IMHO Besthusband.com (shows 1700$ at Godaddy) will get lapped up by someone for good money. I am too inexperienced (NIL practically) to tell whether it is $$$ or $$$$.

    @johnnie018 I just joined NamePros recently, but I have been following and buying domains (and not doing anything with them, another story) since more than a decade. IMHO, Choice and quality of domains need not always have to do anything with perceived experience, and level at NP.

    Now the really really long answer, (I hope you don't boot people who talk too much, LOL) :

    A year ago, I had a 4 - 5 .us domains, thinking that they would go for good $$. Well, I didn't market them completely so I cannot blame them, but initially the response was nil, not as expected. I let them expire and someone has picked them up and is asking topdollar for those. Whether they go for what is asked, is another story, but the guys that picked them up are pro websites, so they must be pricing them okay, at least.

    Lesson - I need to market well. And I could have developed at least a couple of them.

    Just before I picked this up, I was exposed to some domain sales newsletters and I was surprised to find some good ngTLD sales, exactly as @Bob Hawkes mentioned above.

    Fifteen years ago, the naysayers would have shot down facebook.com too. The name isn't related anywhere near to Social Networking, is it?

    Besthusband.com is 1700$ on Godaddy. Besthusband.co is 12$. I got this for a paltry 2$. I had less than 20$ with me at that time, have lesser now and I don't know what I am going to do for the rest of the month because I have to arrange for around 2000$. But something told me take it,2$ won't hurt.

    Okay, sorry folks ..TMI

    Coming back, if you look at expressions like daddy dearest,numero uno etc, husband.best looks more catchy and quirky and relatable for a personal website than besthusband.co which sounds more commercial.

    Maybe I can run an auction on it for exclusivity like a title, like Mr World etc to give to a single person.

    I looked up wife.best before I took this. Already taken. Godaddy valuation showed >$1000 while this showed around $180. I have already told in my previous post that the bot valuations aren't to be taken seriously but I just thought this is funny. I joked about it on twitter.

    There will be always better alternatives to something. In that sense, even husband.best is a better alternative to something.

    And I feel that it is good news that big ticket ngTLD sales are happening, because that will take the limelight off .coms and the world of domaining will probably be flatter but it will have greater participation, which I think in the long run is beneficial to all.

    Wow, I am on a roll here.

    I (a HUNDRED percent) respect the opinion of those who shot down this domain. I take it that they are caring enough to advise me to not burn myself.

    I also thank @Bob Hawkes for the objectivity in his support, backed by data and suggestions. Unbiased, neither pessimistic nor too optimistic.

    What sells, what doesn't only time will tell. But I am someone who believes that I will have to put in my effort. So lets see. I will keep you updated if my efforts bear fruit. Wish me luck! :)

    Extremely sorry for the long post, couldn't hold myself back because there was a lot to tell.

    Cheers.
    Vadhi
     
  13. gilescoley

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    Yes, its listed at godaddy for that, it doesnt mean its worth that. There are hundreds of thousands of names listed at GD and other platforms with crazy prices. If it was a decent price or the name was decent, it would have sold by now, why do think its still for sale?? If that price was dropped to $500 or $200 on GD, it will more than likely still be for sale. Dont look at godaddy or Sedo listings and their buy it now prices, most of them are dreamers.

    Fordgt.com.au is listed for $200,000, it wont sell for that in a million years.

    If Besthusband.co is available for $12, that would be a better option, even though I would personally leave it alone because of the limited use it has.

    You get the idea...
     
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  14. Va S

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    Going by .com, clean straight names, simple English and all that we have talked about it in this thread and going by the examples that @Bob Hawkes posted, and going by the other hundreds that get sold in the world of domaining every week, allow me to become bold enough to tell that I think BestHusband.com at 1700$ is maybe a good deal. If I had enough dough, I may have been inclined to go after it and start by asking 1000$. Again, as I said I am thinking it is good just because I am comparing with the other deals and also because it is a clean straight phrase. 200$ and you say it will be still unsold, I think that's a bit harsh. I think we can give the name a bit more credit and value for what it is.

    I am sure every domainer would have some domains in his portfolio which atleast 75% of the everyone else would say it is a great domain, but there are no takers.

    It is always not about why it isn't sold yet. Sometimes it should be about how good I think it is, and I will have to give it to BestHusband.com

    IMHO Some reasons why besthusband.com or any other "should have been sold" domains don't get sold:
    1. Lack of marketing, listing
    2. Seasonal fluctuations
    3. Simple ignorance by domainers to try something like this during their domain hunts
    4. Lack of imagination + lack of development ( Here is where I will make the 1000$ worth it)

    Regarding fordgt.com.au, I own sexnme.com, I have myself listed for 99999$(because it wasn't allowing me to enter more than that, lol), just for fun and to try my luck, because I plan to develop it and not really sell it, and if somebody wants it badly before I develop it, I bet I will ask them to sell their kidney for it. LOL.... So I know about the crazy listings game.

    Regarding dreaming, every week's domain sales list keep the dreams of every domainer alive. The dreamers are the askers, and their dreams are being fulfilled and will continue to be fulfilled if, they are lucky, and they get a buyer who wants exactly what they have, and don't have a better alternative. Wouldn't everyone want to be on the dreamer's side once in a while?

    I get the idea that you are trying to tell me to not be carried away, and I understand that it is extremely important that I am not an unrealistic dreamer if I have to keep making money in domaining. I respect that and I will keep my head at it. Thank you.

    Cheers
    Vadhi
     
  15. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    I admire your passion @Va S and we do, usually, need that to successfully sell domain names. I also agree with the perspective that many names, even those that most do not like, do have someone who will find they have a good use.

    Not being a pessimist, but a realist, I would also want to repeat the following I have said in many threads on NPs.
    • Most domains never sell, ever.
    • Taken over the universe of all domains available for resale the chances of a domain selling in any one year about 1 in 100.
    • If you exclude all registry sales the chances of ngTLD domain sales a bit lower (maybe 1 in 300 although varies a lot with type and extension). When they do sell median prices are higher that partly, but not completely, makes up th difference.
    • On average those selling in domain aftermarket lose money.
    • To have reasonable chances one needs to most of the time concentrate on domains with a good number of possible end users.
    I do agree that some domains would have sold but the person owning them does not list them effectively, does not do other things to promote them or simply doesn't believe in them. Also some domains sell that many would say do not. I carefully go through the recent sales on NameBio every day and almost always there are names selling for $400 plus that I would never have predicted.

    Best wishes but also be realistic, as we all must, and always only invest in domains according to personal tolerance for risk.

    Bob
     
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  16. gilescoley

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    No its not, and if you bought it you would be stuck with it and would more than likely let it expire after a year or 2 of renewals. You can buy a lot better name with a whole list of potential buyers with $1000, you could buy 4 names for $1000 better than BestHusband, always get a list of possible buyers before buying a name. Google "best husband" and see what comes up, and check how many developed sites are using that term.

    You really need to read this forum for a few months before buying anymore names, you need to get a handle on what makes a name valuable. Check out namebio.com every day and sign up to the dnjournal sales newsletter to get an idea of what sells, it will save you a lot of renewals if you do that.

    Yes Bob Hawkes mentioned some sales, but that is 5 sales and those sales are not the norm with these new extensions, but the exception, you cant read anything into that, especially when comparing your name.
     
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  17. Va S

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    @Bob Hawkes,

    Thank you for the kind words. I have been really interested since many years, only recently it has turned into something that I am interested to go full time in. Just have a few others things going that I have to close before jumping all in.
    • Most domains never sell, ever. -- I haven't sold ONE yet
    • Taken over the universe of all domains available for resale the chances of a domain selling in any one year about 1 in 100. --- Agree and good yardstick for expectations
    • If you exclude all registry sales the chances of ngTLD domain sales a bit lower (maybe 1 in 300 although varies a lot with type and extension). When they do sell median prices are higher that partly, but not completely, makes up th difference. --- Agree. About the lower sales, I think this is partly also because people usually find the required alternative in legacy extensions. They go for ngTLDs when it apt for the business or when legacy is too pricey. Am I correct?
    • On average those involved in domain aftermarket lose money. --- Not a better example than me! I haven't made a dime yet. That's why I am kind of going slow this time. Learning and participating in forums is a start.
    • To have reasonable chances one needs to most of the time concentrate on domains with a good number of possible end users. -- Noted and considered

    Cheers
    Vadhi
     
  18. Va S

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    On second thoughts, I take it back. I too agree 1 grand would get me a LOT of quality domains rather than me being stuck with just 1 domain. I think I got carried away by the earlier discussions of right phrase, .com etc.

    If I had bought it at 1 grand and I was stuck with it, I would be devastated, not to mention more bankrupt than ever. Scary! I think I need to rest my thoughts. Good thing I don't have big bucks. I think I would have squandered them away.

    As I mentioned in my previous reply to @Bob Hawkes, I really feel I have learnt a lot from participating in domain forums. Thanks to all for that.

    Now after all this, I think I will calm down about husband.best and park it in some closet in the attic for retrieval after a few months/years and concentrate more on learning the ropes well before I do anything else. Thankfully I paid only as much as a coffee.

    Thanks again @gilescoley
     
  19. Va S

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    @gilescoley @Bob Hawkes @bmugford @barman and others.

    May not be a right question to continue here, but if you don't mind can you let me know if it is a good game plan to keep flipping for small profits? I am referring to some posts on some forums, where people have hundreds of domains. If I am such a person, and I decide to keep flipping for lets say just 5$ also above my cost, do you think it is sustainable and profitable, this volume business?
     
  20. NameJi

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    husband.best is a good domain name compared to thousands of non-sense .com domains. Women are the right people to rate this domain, they see a better value in this domain.
     
  21. Bob Hawkes

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    There are many reasons. Some prefer the elegance of a name that describes exactly their business without an unrelated appendage tacked on. The buyers of vacation.rentals and home.loans expressed this in their DNW interviews. Some companies can exactly match their company name using a ngTLD. Some use it only for one facet of their operation like Kohler.design. Especially in artist writer communities some like to be different in their domain. Some get one because they really want a word not available in legacy. For some it is simply cost. I wrote an article last year around this question, that includes 12 reasons and gives actual use examples of each. I will update it at some point.

    Bob
     
  22. Va S

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    I found it quirky. A guy can show off with that. A wife can purchase if she wants to gift her man with it (Pictures of them together. What all he has done for her. etc etc). LOL.

    Thanks!
     
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    Don't worry about the $ amount. Worry about the % return.

    I can flip a $1,000 domain for $1,005 but that is a waste of my time and hopefully yours. But if you can flip a $50 domain for $150, then that is a much better use of your time, because it should take the same amount of work.
     
  24. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    I would not plan that as a gameplan. Only register names with quality that you think might sell for significant amounts. What that level is can be debated. If doing it as side gig, not main source of income, mid $$$ can work. All that said if you have decided to abandon a domain I am a proponent of trying to sell at $$ to at least more than recoup costs.

    Bob
     
  25. NameJi

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    Cool. It can be a good matrimonial brand as well where girls can find best husband for them. I think .best extension can be viewed as marker (or label) for the best content inside.
     

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