discuss .today

ThatNameGuy · Dec 13, 2017

All...I purchased the following domains today. These domains cost me $60, but I think I may be on to something because of the .today that acts as a .com. and who doesn't want to make a deal/sale today? It was when I realized that every day is today and these names might make great eCommerce sites for all sorts of industries. Aesthetically these names look pretty good. I'm a business guy first, a marketer second, and a domainer third. What might you do if your were me? Thanks

DomainDeals.today
AutoSale.today
FurnitureSale.today
RVSale.today
ComputerSale.today
ApplianceSale.today
HomeSale.today
TruckSale.today
PuppySale.today
TireSale.today
ToySale.today
TicketDeals.today
JewelrySale.today
ArtSale.today
BoatDeals.today
BoatSale.today
ComputerDeals.today
BigScreenDeals.today
TVDeals.today
ApplianceDeals.today
FurnitureDeals.today
HouseSales.today
SkyDeals.today
PhoneDeals.today
GourmetGifts.today
YachtSales.today
BikeSales.today
GiftSales.today
WineSales.today
BeerSales.today
CruiseDeals.today

arjun29 · Dec 16, 2017

I am smelling KINGOF.TODAY here... :D todaytodaytodaytoday......todaytoday.today (63)

ThatNameGuy · Dec 16, 2017

dordomai said:
Hope that industry connection name was not Dicker?

I think there is a misconception that you can easily monetize your domains. Sure you can put up content on a domain even like 3434fddfdfdfdd.com and monetize the traffic but you are making money off the content not the domain. You are a content producer then not a domainer.

Domains like the .todays you regged wont give you a special advantage in SEO neither will they attract much if any traffic on their own.

It may sound tempting that you can register domains for $1.99 and have your own empire of rev generating minisites but this is something that would have worked in 2003 not today.

If you have a large number of 2017 handregs that do not have any traffic and that can not sell, they are worthless. Sure you can produce content which has a certain value(and cost) and make money off it, not as easy as it sounds but lets make no mistake the money comes from the content not your domain even if the content is attached to your URL.

content has a certain value in the marketplace so you are not getting it for free/cheap, there is no such thing as easy free money from holding handregs of questionable quality.

If you are investing time/money in worthless regs you lose even more better let them expire and find better ones.

Dicker? Nope, never heard of him/her. One of the main things most of you are missing is the .com vs. .today extension itself. Lets just take the domain FreePizza.today vs. FreePizza.com or even FreePizzaToday.com. In this case the .today extension is descriptive in that it's specific about a point in time the "Free Pizza" is available, whereas the .com extension is a non specific and non descriptive extension. Do you follow that? If you don't, the rest of our argument/disagreement is meaningless.

You may wish to note, that "most" of the .today domain names that I'm buying use the extension as more of a sales word/tool than simply a non descriptive internet extension. At least extensions like ca and uk identify the country in which the domain is registered.

"Most" of the names I've registered with the .today extension are intended to have the reader/consumer/user click on the url TODAY because they want a free pizza today, or they have a toothache today, or they are looking to buy a new yacht today.

Granted, the .today extension will never be as popular as the .com extension, but it serves the purpose for which I'm buying these names. I'm looking to make hay .today, not .yesterday, not .com, not .life and not .uk or .ca.

Finally, humor me now for a second. Let's assume the internet didn't exist, and you own a pizza place. Which of these add's would you put in your window, Free Pizza Today or Free Pizza Com? I know which one I'd choose. And your response would be, but...but....but...but...but...but. And guess what, I understand. Thanks for listening,

Bulloney

ps. some of you are asking if I could help you sell your .today names? Names like Cash.Today should probably sell for big bucks, while BulloneyIsanA**Hole.Today will probably never sell, even though it may be popular with some

dordomai · Dec 16, 2017

finally, humor me now for a second. Let's assume the internet didn't exist, and you own a pizza place. Which of these add's would you put in your window, Free Pizza Today or Free Pizza Com?

I would use .com because 99% of people understand it is an URL that you can visit (.com itself is a call to action, it means website/visit us there) while 95% of people do not understand freepizza.today to be a website URL.

ThatNameGuy · Dec 16, 2017

dordomai said:
I would use .com because 99% of people understand it is an URL that you can visit (.com itself is a call to action, it means website/visit us there) while 95% of people do not understand freepizza.today to be a website URL.

There's where you and I differ dordomai (btw, couldn't find any info about you on the info page here?), I'm a sales and marketing guy way more than I'm a domainer, and I believe FreePizza.today will generate just as much attention (due to curiosity) as the .com will. I was attracted to PingPong.gives out of curiosity. Keep in mind "Free" anything get's most peoples attention,but domains like YachtSales.today would get my attention if I'm looking to buy a yacht.

My final point is whereas Sea Ray (the largest boat builder in the world) might pay 500K for YachtSales.com, Wellcraft (the 9th largest boat builder) might pay 100K for YachtSales.today (why?, because YachtSales.com is sold/gone) Does any of this make sense to you? btw, someone clicking on either of these names would go to the yacht builders/dealers website where the goal would be to sell them a boat/yacht.

While we may not agree on any of this, I'm starting to think the negativity being spewed about my use of the .today extension only emboldens and encourages me.....and that's who I am.

Bulloney

MasterOfMyDomains · Dec 16, 2017

I want to give you some encouragement. Your wasting not just money, but time.
Now go make some sales. Wellcraft aint gonna pay 90k for .today
They have Wellcraft.COM and they sell powerboats not yachts

Show us your sales pitch for why they should swap their .com for .today

Aaron.A · Dec 16, 2017

Hi Bulloney,

I'd just like to add a couple of things to this thread. Not to insult you, but hopefully help you.

1) You seem to be underestimating domaining by such a large margin that as it stands, you have 0% chance of succeeding in this business. Anyone with even a limited experience of selling domains could tell you this.

2) Being sure of yourself is a great quailty to have but it's clearly getting in the way of you accepting valuable advice from experienced members who are actually trying to help you. We have all lost money in domaining and made bad buys when starting out. The faster you realise this, the sooner you will move away from this nonesense.

3) Good advice rarely strokes the ego

Bad Advice- Your a genius, keep buying .today domains till you have no money left. It doesn't matter if you end up homeless, you'll still have great .today domains that you'll sell for loads of money.

Good Advice- Your bad at domaining, STOP buying domains until you know how the game works. Do the smart thing, listen to the people who have actually sold domains.

I hope you wake up before you lose too much money.

Good luck

Premiums · Dec 16, 2017

Bulloney said:
All...I purchased the following domains today.

DomainDeals.today
AutoSale.today
FurnitureSale.today
RVSale.today
ComputerSale.today
ApplianceSale.today
HomeSale.today
TruckSale.today
PuppySale.today
TireSale.today
ToySale.today
TicketDeals.today
JewelrySale.today
ArtSale.today
BoatDeals.today
BoatSale.today
ComputerDeals.today
BigScreenDeals.today
TVDeals.today
ApplianceDeals.today
FurnitureDeals.today
HouseSales.today
SkyDeals.today
PhoneDeals.today
GourmetGifts.today
YachtSales.today
BikeSales.today
GiftSales.today
WineSales.today
BeerSales.today
CruiseDeals.today

Wow, you just wasted your.money

shopman · Dec 16, 2017

I have had glam.today for months. No offers yet.

ThatNameGuy · Dec 16, 2017

Aaron Allison said:
Hi Bulloney,

I'd just like to add a couple of things to this thread. Not to insult you, but hopefully help you.

1) You seem to be underestimating domaining by such a large margin that as it stands, you have 0% chance of succeeding in this business. Anyone with even a limited experience of selling domains could tell you this.

2) Being sure of yourself is a great quailty to have but it's clearly getting in the way of you accepting valuable advice from experienced members who are actually trying to help you. We have all lost money in domaining and made bad buys when starting out. The faster you realise this, the sooner you will move away from this nonesense.

3) Good advice rarely strokes the ego

Bad Advice- Your a genius, keep buying .today domains till you have no money left. It doesn't matter if you end up homeless, you'll still have great .today domains that you'll sell for loads of money.

Good Advice- Your bad at domaining, STOP buying domains until you know how the game works. Do the smart thing, listen to the people who have actually sold domains.

I hope you wake up before you lose too much money.

Good luck

ThatNameGuy · Dec 16, 2017

Aaron Allison said:
Hi Bulloney,

I'd just like to add a couple of things to this thread. Not to insult you, but hopefully help you.

1) You seem to be underestimating domaining by such a large margin that as it stands, you have 0% chance of succeeding in this business. Anyone with even a limited experience of selling domains could tell you this.

2) Being sure of yourself is a great quailty to have but it's clearly getting in the way of you accepting valuable advice from experienced members who are actually trying to help you. We have all lost money in domaining and made bad buys when starting out. The faster you realise this, the sooner you will move away from this nonesense.

3) Good advice rarely strokes the ego

Bad Advice- Your a genius, keep buying .today domains till you have no money left. It doesn't matter if you end up homeless, you'll still have great .today domains that you'll sell for loads of money.

Good Advice- Your bad at domaining, STOP buying domains until you know how the game works. Do the smart thing, listen to the people who have actually sold domains.

I hope you wake up before you lose too much money.

Good luck

Aaron...thanks for the encouragement. I just bought three new .today domains about an hour ago.

1. DentalHygiene.today
2. DentalHygene.today (note, the incorrect spelling on purpose)
3. GodBless.today

Aaron...you needn't insult my intelligence

I know the difference between good and bad advice, and it's worked pretty well for me since I was a child. I just paid 5.98 for the three domains I just bought, and GoDaddy has the equivalent .com domains appraised for over $28,000, and that includes the misspelled domain for over $1,000. So what does GoDaddy appraise my .today domains for? Each less than $100, and if you don't know by now that appraisals in the domain industry are the biggest JOKE of any industry, you sir are poorly informed. Aaron, that should probably tell you exactly what I think of your advice

Bulloney

robert widener · Dec 16, 2017

you gotta love bulloney's enthusiasm . GO GET EM ' TIGER

Aaron.A · Dec 16, 2017

No problem Bulloney. All the best.

ThatNameGuy · Dec 16, 2017

MasterOfMyDomains said:
I want to give you some encouragement. Your wasting not just money, but time.
Now go make some sales. Wellcraft aint gonna pay 90k for .today
They have Wellcraft.COM and they sell powerboats not yachts

Show us your sales pitch for why they should swap their .com for .today

Hey young man..I've owned Wellcrats, I've owned Sea Rays and I've owned Tiar's. You really don't get it do you? YachtSale.today is NOT a brand, and not intended to be a brand. YachtSale.today is simply a lead/sales generator that directs customers to the Wellcraft (the brand)...do you know any thing about sales or lead generation? I didn't think so. Thanks for the encouragement.

Bulloney

JB Lions · Dec 16, 2017

Bulloney said:
My final point is whereas Sea Ray (the largest boat builder in the world) might pay 500K for YachtSales.com, Wellcraft (the 9th largest boat builder) might pay 100K for YachtSales.today (why?, because YachtSales.com is sold/gone) Does any of this make sense to you?

It doesn't make sense because:
http://www.searay.com/

http://www.wellcraft.com/

They already have domains.

It doesn't make sense because .today aren't selling well.

Registering losewght.today, also doesn't make sense. You just bought a 2 word, misspelling, in a new gtld.

"YachtSale.today is simply a lead/sales generator that directs customers to the Wellcraft (the brand)...do you know any thing about sales or lead generation?"

They don't need that to do that, they can direct straight to the site. Maybe more for lead generator/affiliate type stuff for others to link to them. But they aren't going to pay 100k.

Kate · Dec 16, 2017

To go straight to the point: look around you, how many normal businesses use TLDs like .today or .whatever: zero. How many aftermarket sales: zero with the oddball exception. The TLD is nothing special, just another extension among hundreds of others.
Safe to say freepizza.today is worthless when the .com counterpart freepizzatoday.com is free to register.
There is no market for domains like those. You could develop them but what's the point, you can find better and more commercially viable domains for regfee.
With the same arguments, any domain is suddenly as valuable as gold. But it just doesn't work like that.

Brands.International · Dec 16, 2017

From end user perspective, if you want to develop these names, no objection whatsoever.

Can be great as lead generators. From some reason (I do not know why is that happening) some of the most visited names in new gTLDs I personally know about are with .today extension. Several fellow new gTLD investors have reported this, as most of us are measuring all our names in various extensions using services like bodis, etc. .TODAY is doing, as far as I know, very well from this aspect.

If we would consider them as investment, from resale perspective, I feel not value. Reason is there are too many alternatives one can create for each of your word1word2.today names. So end users will go for those alternatives, which is far more preferable option to them, comparing to paying a premium to you for your names.

So as investment no, for development (and you have some good ideas) some of your names are worth a try, imo

Brands.International · Dec 16, 2017

Park your names for 2-3 months and see which names get most traffic for this period - focus on those.

HotKey · Dec 16, 2017

@Bulloney don't get too fixated on one extension...trust me you'll see a year from now when renewals come up. There will never be a replacement for .com, and that's not what the new G's were meant for. It is useless comparing the two, you'll be running circles.

Focus on only the best matches, and be aware there are literally thousands for people to choose from. .today is great, sure, for stuff like News/Today, Weather/Today, Finance/Today, Travel/Today but generally everyone wants everything today, they don't need an extension to tell them so.

.Today, and many others, are a niche market, not a one size fits all.

ThatNameGuy · Dec 17, 2017

HotKey said:
@Bulloney don't get too fixated on one extension...trust me you'll see a year from now when renewals come up. There will never be a replacement for .com, and that's not what the new G's were meant for. It is useless comparing the two, you'll be running circles.

Focus on only the best matches, and be aware there are literally thousands for people to choose from. .today is great, sure, for stuff like News/Today, Weather/Today, Finance/Today, Travel/Today but generally everyone wants everything today, they don't need an extension to tell them so.

.Today, and many others, are a niche market, not a one size fits all.

Thanks Ben. I see you've been doing this a long time, and I appreciate your input. I visited you Genuine Domains Site and I like it very much. btw, you might be interested in knowing I registered the domain GenuinelyCreative.com just a couple of weeks ago. Heck, how would I have known I'd run into the guy who owns Genuine Domains. Just to let you know, I'm diversified alright. I have almost 600 domains, of which only 120 are .today domains. Of the 120 I own, about 20 of them are one word .today domains similar to the ones you listed, but not quite that good. However, I do believe the two word .today domains I own are just as good if not better than the single word. For example; AmazingSale.today, AutoSale.today, MarijuanaDeals.today, ComingHome.today, SportsOdds.today, and GoldRush.today. Each of these two word domains fit well with the .today extension imho.

Ben, I'll reach out to you later about not only my .today niche, but about a couple of other niche's I've carved out. Thanks for your help.

Bulloney

robert widener · Dec 17, 2017

Bulloney said:
Thanks Ben. I see you've been doing this a long time, and I appreciate your input. I visited you Genuine Domains Site and I like it very much. btw, you might be interested in knowing I registered the domain GenuinelyCreative.com just a couple of weeks ago. Heck, how would I have known I'd run into the guy who owns Genuine Domains. Just to let you know, I'm diversified alright. I have almost 600 domains, of which only 120 are .today domains. Of the 120 I own, about 20 of them are one word .today domains similar to the ones you listed, but not quite that good. However, I do believe the two word .today domains I own are just as good if not better than the single word. For example; AmazingSale.today, AutoSale.today, MarijuanaDeals.today, ComingHome.today, SportsOdds.today, and GoldRush.today. Each of these two word domains fit well with the .today extension imho.

Ben, I'll reach out to you later about not only my .today niche, but about a couple of other niche's I've carved out. Thanks for your help.

Bulloney

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robert widener · Dec 17, 2017

bulloney has domain fever , lol . my advice is get to a doctor as soon as possible ...... & do yourself a favor & cut up your credit cards .

Fancy.domains · Dec 17, 2017

robert widener said:
& do yourself a favor & cut up your credit cards .

.Today is less than 2 bucks at many registrars at the moment, so probably no worries until the renewals are coming up.

gilescoley · Dec 17, 2017

@Fancy.domains

The problem is its not just .today names there are over 500 in other extensions too. Nobody should be that new to domaining and own that many names, its a tactic we see all the time and these domainers dont last 18 months usually, reality kicks in about November 2018 when you get those first renewal emails

My advice to new domainers is never to register more than 20 names before making your first sale.

yameen · Dec 17, 2017

graphicdesign.today

Fancy.domains · Dec 17, 2017

gilescoley said:
@Fancy.domains

The problem is its not just .today names there are over 500 in other extensions too. Nobody should be that new to domaining and own that many names, its a tactic we see all the time and these domainers dont last 18 months usually, reality kicks in about November 2018 when you get those first renewal emails

My advice to new domainers is never to register more than 20 names before making your first sale.

Sounds good...

My advice to new domainers is to not focus on hand-registering names, but rather concentrate in snapping drops and / or bid at auctions. And even more important, to analyze each name regarding existing data (search volume, history, CPC, popularity, trends and so on).

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