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Lol i must be getting old i had to look up what Anaglyph is

More likely you're too young. Anaglyph was how 3D stereo was viewed before the polarized glasses that led people to believe 3D cinema/TV was here for real this time. However, the anaglyph glasses were still cheaper than the polarized glasses and would allow you to view anaglyph photos and videos on regular 2D screens, thus when 3D was all the rage around the Avatar year of 2008/9, anaglyph search got a huge boost.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=anaglyph porn

This is why I'm pessimistic about VR. I've seen it all before. VR is to 3D as 3D (TV glasses) is to anaglyph. Not such a quantom leap forward as people think (at this moment).
 
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Most of the people on GFY are complete idiots. I don't think I've ever known a forum where the general IQ is so low.

That's why I fit right in :ROFL:
 
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I actually own one of those anagraphs. It's over 100 years old and quite valuable.
But what is even more valuable are the 3d cards of some rare and unique events.
I think I had made a joke about them in the vr thread 2 years ago calling them a vintage vr device.
LOL
For as old as it is, the imagery is quite good looking at them through the good glass lenses on them.
 
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Anagraph would make a catchy headset brand.
 
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While the news is flooded with Black Fri deals soon to change to cyber Monday deals,
I await the end of these to see more product introduction announcements.

BTW, if any of you are buying a device while the specials are hot or plan to buy something by the end of the year, I would like to know what that is and why you chose it over others. If you don't mind saying.
 
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More likely you're too young. Anaglyph was how 3D stereo was viewed before the polarized glasses that led people to believe 3D cinema/TV was here for real this time. However, the anaglyph glasses were still cheaper than the polarized glasses and would allow you to view anaglyph photos and videos on regular 2D screens, thus when 3D was all the rage around the Avatar year of 2008/9, anaglyph search got a huge boost.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=anaglyph porn

This is why I'm pessimistic about VR. I've seen it all before. VR is to 3D as 3D (TV glasses) is to anaglyph. Not such a quantom leap forward as people think (at this moment).

I don’t think i would have gone crazy with 3D domains even if i was around that time, as there was only 3D TV’s, it was never going to be about ‘3D poker’ ‘3D Casino’s’ and other things.

VR/AR on the other, even if it fails this time around, will be the next step one day – TV has had a good 100 years, it’s not going to get another 100, not even 50 and the next step of replacing it is immersive entertainment (VR/AR), whether it's through glasses or projection, there's no doubt in my mind its the next step, it just needs to get better!

Same time though, i think these technologies will also replace the computers and how we view the internet eventually and with that domains will become redundant.

So sometimes you do wonder whether you’re doing the right things or not investing in domains in these areas, new terms being thrown into the mix every month or so doesn’t help either.

That’s the thing I’m more worried about though (whether domains are really needed in these areas) more so than the tech failing.
 
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I don’t think i would have gone crazy with 3D domains even if i was around that time, as there was only 3D TV’s, it was never going to be about ‘3D poker’ ‘3D Casino’s’ and other things.

To be fair, many had the expectation that everything visual was going to be 3D, including the internet. Many laptops started appearing with 3D screens and even a few high end smartphones from HTC and LG (I bought one of them).

3D names might have more lasting value than VR, certainly if virtual reality fails to go mainstream in this hype cycle. 3D has many forms and all true VR is in 3D. Holograms and mixed reality will of course be in 3D (or psuedo 3D). And then there is 3D printing. 3DCasino sold a couple of years ago for $16K

The Michael Berkens 3D thread must be one of the most epic ever in domain naming. You can find both myself and Giles Corey in it, maybe some others from here. I stopped posting there several years ago but I see Giles was still extending its life as recently as last year. https://www.thedomains.com/2010/07/...-domains-hint-its-not-me-frank-rick-or-kevin/
 
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Well, @cordoba I can say, I was in that 3D Thread all those years ago. Early on, it was a fair thread. But it quickly became pretty stupid. I would advise anyone who has been domaining less than 5 years to read the first year or more and watch how folks quickly talk themselves into the poorhouse making their own basis for their actions without merit. I quit posting there within about 6 months and quit reading after 16 months.

And I might remind @KingslayerVR that it really was not just about 3D TV. But that is what got most in a frenzy. I was using stereoscopic video glasses at the time that thread started. We then had 3D content of various methods on youtube and a bit later GoPro created a 3D kit for it's hero cameras.
But there are many things going on that you most likely did not hear about going on back then.
Unless you like to play with cutting edge tech or read forums of the folks that do.

Many of the things you enjoy today and take for granted, I was experimenting with kids in universities when they were first testing them out on the internet. Even helped some work through code issues.
So I have been blessed somewhat being in the right place at the right time. It has only given me a deeper understanding of tech development. Despite having worked on a few bleeding edge projects myself.
It does not help much with names except to know how difficult it can be and how long it takes to bring a good thing to market. And money rules the operations. So most sell-out to larger entities.
But I will say again, it was the Cable and Satellite company's that killed 3DTV.
And that is a long story itself.
But now we have real stereoscopic spherical TV, So it did not die, just upgraded formats.
You just have to look at the big tech picture in a historical perspective to see that.

I still suggest reading that old 3D thread to anyone who hasn't !
 
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To be fair, many had the expectation that everything visual was going to be 3D, including the internet. Many laptops started appearing with 3D screens and even a few high end smartphones from HTC and LG (I bought one of them).

3D names might have more lasting value than VR, certainly if virtual reality fails to go mainstream in this hype cycle. 3D has many forms and all true VR is in 3D. Holograms and mixed reality will of course be in 3D (or psuedo 3D). And then there is 3D printing. 3DCasino sold a couple of years ago for $16K

The Michael Berkens 3D thread must be one of the most epic ever in domain naming. You can find both myself and Giles Corey in it, maybe some others from here. I stopped posting there several years ago but I see Giles was still extending its life as recently as last year. https://www.thedomains.com/2010/07/...-domains-hint-its-not-me-frank-rick-or-kevin/

Reminds me a lot of the VR thread with the enthusiasm for 3D tech. Must have been devastating for ones who collected some of the best keywords (probably cost a lot too) to see it all fail.

Such as you who went through all that with 3D (probably lost a lot of money) to get back on the horse again go all out with ‘holo’ like you did, must have been a hard decision. I can only speak for myself, but as a guy who’s spent a lot on VR domains, should VR fail, i would stay well away from investing in future tech domains in the future.
 
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I don’t think i would have gone crazy with 3D domains even if i was around that time, as there was only 3D TV’s

Very little of it was about 3D TV though, I really did think it would be bigger than it turned out to be, especially after the Avatar release, but it was not to be

3D was and still used in all sorts of industries, the main focus in the 3D craze was 3D Printing, I did own some 3D TV names but let them drop pretty early on, just holding onto the generic names that could be used in a variety of industries. I still get interested in them now, but I think you held onto to any 3DTV names, the offers would be very few and far between

Most of the better 3D sales during that time were printing names, except for 3D.com of course

3d.com 500,000 USD
3dprinter.net 60,000 USD
3dparts.com 44,000 USD
3dparts.com 40,000 USD
3dmodels.com 33,750
3dmodels.com 33,720
3dprinting.com 33,150
3dcity.com 29,500 USD
3dworld.com 27,800 USD
3dprinting.com 25,500 USD
buy3dprinter.com 12,000 USD
3dprintingmagazine.com 10,000 USD
3dprinter.info 8,000 USD
3d-print.com 7,980 USD
3dprintedshoes.com 7,500 USD
3dprintingmedia.com 7,500 USD
 
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Very little of it was about 3D TV though, I really did think it would be bigger than it turned out to be, especially after the Avatar release, but it was not to be

3D was and still used in all sorts of industries, the main focus in the 3D craze was 3D Printing, I did own some 3D TV names but let them drop pretty early on, just holding onto the generic names that could be used in a variety of industries. I still get interested in them now, but I think you held onto to any 3DTV names, the offers would be very few and far between

Most of the better 3D sales during that time were printing names, except for 3D.com of course
Yea, I deliberately did not mention 3Dprint tech, even though I am still heavily invested there still.
Just because it is not really related to visual tech.
And that story, like VR, still has yet to be written.
 
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Reminds me a lot of the VR thread with the enthusiasm for 3D tech. Must have been devastating for ones who collected some of the best keywords (probably cost a lot too) to see it all fail.

Such as you who went through all that with 3D (probably lost a lot of money) to get back on the horse again go all out with ‘holo’ like you did, must have been a hard decision. I can only speak for myself, but as a guy who’s spent a lot on VR domains, should VR fail, i would stay well away from investing in future tech domains in the future.

As I think I've pointed out here before, I made at least a $100,000 profit from my 3D name investments. I registered very few names that I didn't get my money back from, and the ones that I didn't monetize will serve me well down the road. I have no regrets whatsoever regarding my 3D investments.

The investment in holo names was fairly sound at the time. Unfortunately, it's getting increasingly difficult to monetize large portfolios of names, or close to impossible thanks to changes in Google algorithms.

My only regret looking back at that thread and my thinking at the time is the blindspot for VR. If you notice, I don't think VR was mentioned ONCE in the entirety of that six year discussion. We mentioned 4K and holo A LOT, but not once virtual reality (let alone augmented reality). (I only took part in that thread briefly in 2011, but did check back quite often on the increasing madness). But you're right, that thread completely mirrors the current VR domain name discussion. Poor headset/3D TV sales? Nahh, just a matter of waiting for the tech to catch up in 18 months time. Will 3D/VR names even be valuable in 5 years time when EVERYTHING is in 3D/VR,? Lol.

I remember going to see Avatar 3D in the cinema and being blown away by it. At one point I actually tried to shield with my hands everything from view aside from the cinema screen and thinking how amazing it will be when we are wearing headsets for complete immersion instead of glasses. And yet I sort of had a blind spot for the acronym VR, even though I registered a few 'virtual' names. So many good VR names available back then I can't imagine....

Well yesterday I bought a 55 inch 4K TV for my new apartment in the center of a world class city, as well as $2,000 realistic luxury sex doll. (not that I need it when I can call a hooker to come round for $30 who would look straight out of a smut movie (and might be)). I can reasonably claim that all this is because of my 3D name investments. What did you guys get in the Black Friday sales?
 
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As I think I've pointed out here before, I made at least a $100,000 profit from my 3D name investments. I registered very few names that I didn't get my money back from, and the ones that I didn't monetize will serve me well down the road. I have no regrets whatsoever regarding my 3D investments.

The investment in holo names was fairly sound at the time. Unfortunately, it's getting increasingly difficult to monetize large portfolios of names, or close to impossible thanks to changes in Google algorithms.

My only regret looking back at that thread and my thinking at the time is the blindspot for VR. If you notice, I don't think VR was mentioned ONCE in the entirety of that six year discussion. We mentioned 4K and holo A LOT, but not once virtual reality (let alone augmented reality). (I only took part in that thread briefly in 2011, but did check back quite often on the increasing madness). But you're right, that thread completely mirrors the current VR domain name discussion. Poor headset/3D TV sales? Nahh, just a matter of waiting for the tech to catch up in 18 months time. Will 3D/VR names even be valuable in 5 years time when EVERYTHING is in 3D/VR,? Lol.

I remember going to see Avatar 3D in the cinema and being blown away by it. At one point I actually tried to shield with my hands everything from view aside from the cinema screen and thinking how amazing it will be when we are wearing headsets for complete immersion instead of glasses. And yet I sort of had a blind spot for the acronym VR, even though I registered a few 'virtual' names. So many good VR names available back then I can't imagine....

Well yesterday I bought a 55 inch 4K TV for my new apartment in the center of a world class city, as well as $2,000 realistic luxury sex doll. (not that I need it when I can call a hooker to come round for $30 who would look straight out of a smut movie (and might be)). I can reasonably claim that all this is because of my 3D name investments. What did you guys get in the Black Friday sales?

You don't need thousands of names. can do well with a few hundreds.
 
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You had more than a 1000 and its smart trimming it down.

True, but then i was earning around $100K a year from my names. For most of the last 8 years I only had maybe 600 names but handregistered loads of vr/ar/holo in the last 18 months. Then it was a reasonable investment, now it's very prudent to trim them yes. In the last 12 months alone, we've seen VR not take off at the projected rate, we're still waiting for holo, and on top of that perhaps most of important of all for me, Google has not only made it almost impossible to monetize 'networks' of sites, it is now actively filtering adult sites from its rankings. As I said, I made my money from future smut :D I wont get rich from VR or holo smut because it's too late (unless like Fliporium you got in very quick with a high quality site). Still, I have some great names, so that's why I'm turning into an actual domainer and listing my names for sale on Sedo rather than attempting to monetize them which is now very difficult.
 
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As I think I've pointed out here before, I made at least a $100,000 profit from my 3D name investments. I registered very few names that I didn't get my money back from, and the ones that I didn't monetize will serve me well down the road. I have no regrets whatsoever regarding my 3D investments.

The investment in holo names was fairly sound at the time. Unfortunately, it's getting increasingly difficult to monetize large portfolios of names, or close to impossible thanks to changes in Google algorithms.

My only regret looking back at that thread and my thinking at the time is the blindspot for VR. If you notice, I don't think VR was mentioned ONCE in the entirety of that six year discussion. We mentioned 4K and holo A LOT, but not once virtual reality (let alone augmented reality). (I only took part in that thread briefly in 2011, but did check back quite often on the increasing madness). But you're right, that thread completely mirrors the current VR domain name discussion. Poor headset/3D TV sales? Nahh, just a matter of waiting for the tech to catch up in 18 months time. Will 3D/VR names even be valuable in 5 years time when EVERYTHING is in 3D/VR,? Lol.

I remember going to see Avatar 3D in the cinema and being blown away by it. At one point I actually tried to shield with my hands everything from view aside from the cinema screen and thinking how amazing it will be when we are wearing headsets for complete immersion instead of glasses. And yet I sort of had a blind spot for the acronym VR, even though I registered a few 'virtual' names. So many good VR names available back then I can't imagine....

Well yesterday I bought a 55 inch 4K TV for my new apartment in the center of a world class city, as well as $2,000 realistic luxury sex doll. (not that I need it when I can call a hooker to come round for $30 who would look straight out of a smut movie (and might be)). I can reasonably claim that all this is because of my 3D name investments. What did you guys get in the Black Friday sales?
I bought crypto if that counts a good today
 
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@VRdommy Can you or anybody else here fill me in on the chances of AR headsets/goggles being released this holiday season or early next year? I know there is that Lenovo AR Stars Wars headset that's expected to be a big seller over Christmas? Does it just play the Star Wars game or is it an actual AR headset with Star Wars branding that can play other games and apps?
 
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As I think I've pointed out here before, I made at least a $100,000 profit from my 3D name investments. I registered very few names that I didn't get my money back from, and the ones that I didn't monetize will serve me well down the road. I have no regrets whatsoever regarding my 3D investments.

The investment in holo names was fairly sound at the time. Unfortunately, it's getting increasingly difficult to monetize large portfolios of names, or close to impossible thanks to changes in Google algorithms.

My only regret looking back at that thread and my thinking at the time is the blindspot for VR. If you notice, I don't think VR was mentioned ONCE in the entirety of that six year discussion. We mentioned 4K and holo A LOT, but not once virtual reality (let alone augmented reality). (I only took part in that thread briefly in 2011, but did check back quite often on the increasing madness). But you're right, that thread completely mirrors the current VR domain name discussion. Poor headset/3D TV sales? Nahh, just a matter of waiting for the tech to catch up in 18 months time. Will 3D/VR names even be valuable in 5 years time when EVERYTHING is in 3D/VR,? Lol.

I remember going to see Avatar 3D in the cinema and being blown away by it. At one point I actually tried to shield with my hands everything from view aside from the cinema screen and thinking how amazing it will be when we are wearing headsets for complete immersion instead of glasses. And yet I sort of had a blind spot for the acronym VR, even though I registered a few 'virtual' names. So many good VR names available back then I can't imagine....

Well yesterday I bought a 55 inch 4K TV for my new apartment in the center of a world class city, as well as $2,000 realistic luxury sex doll. (not that I need it when I can call a hooker to come round for $30 who would look straight out of a smut movie (and might be)). I can reasonably claim that all this is because of my 3D name investments. What did you guys get in the Black Friday sales?

Yeah i remember the buzz around Avatar 3D, i never bought a 3D TV, but spent £1000 on a 3D laptop around 2012/13 which i still use today.

I don’t think 3D domains is something i would have got involved in though personally. Never know for sure, reading that thread could have easy got sucked in.

But yeah VR (or virtual tech) is something I’ve always been really interested more than anything, as i always felt it had the potential to change every industry, i just never thought about investing in domains in general up until 2 years ago and I’ve been on the net since Christmas 1999.
 
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@VRdommy Can you or anybody else here fill me in on the chances of AR headsets/goggles being released this holiday season or early next year? I know there is that Lenovo AR Stars Wars headset that's expected to be a big seller over Christmas? Does it just play the Star Wars game or is it an actual AR headset with Star Wars branding that can play other games and apps?
I'd say slim to none.
Not a lot has been stated on Lenovo's HMD. And I'm really talking more about content.
That is what will sell the device. And most of it is tied to Star Wars. That will sell it.... then what.
I think the device is more of a partnership with Disney to state my gut feelings.
They seem to want more than just some licensing.
Lenovo has a AR device to hit the market...
https://www.roadtovr.com/lenovo-reveals-ar-headset-daystar/

I don't expect AR HMD's to kick into the market till this time next year.
And I'm not expecting names for that to be anywhere near VR
Most have no need to state AR in the name, but can easily do so.
 
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@VRdommy Can you or anybody else here fill me in on the chances of AR headsets/goggles being released this holiday season or early next year? I know there is that Lenovo AR Stars Wars headset that's expected to be a big seller over Christmas? Does it just play the Star Wars game or is it an actual AR headset with Star Wars branding that can play other games and apps?

Leaked info/rumor from a supplier says Apple is releasing 2019...not sure how true it is though
 
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Leaked info/rumor from a supplier says Apple is releasing 2019...not sure how true it is though
I would believe that to be very accurate.
But keep in mind it is a likely target and many things can happen.
 
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Very little of it was about 3D TV though, I really did think it would be bigger than it turned out to be, especially after the Avatar release, but it was not to be

3D was and still used in all sorts of industries, the main focus in the 3D craze was 3D Printing, I did own some 3D TV names but let them drop pretty early on, just holding onto the generic names that could be used in a variety of industries. I still get interested in them now, but I think you held onto to any 3DTV names, the offers would be very few and far between

Most of the better 3D sales during that time were printing names, except for 3D.com of course

3d.com 500,000 USD
3dprinter.net 60,000 USD
3dparts.com 44,000 USD
3dparts.com 40,000 USD
3dmodels.com 33,750
3dmodels.com 33,720
3dprinting.com 33,150
3dcity.com 29,500 USD
3dworld.com 27,800 USD
3dprinting.com 25,500 USD
buy3dprinter.com 12,000 USD
3dprintingmagazine.com 10,000 USD
3dprinter.info 8,000 USD
3d-print.com 7,980 USD
3dprintedshoes.com 7,500 USD
3dprintingmedia.com 7,500 USD
I enjoyed being part of Berkens 3D thread (HGPortfolio) and that's what got me into registering 3D printing domains. During the hype years around 2012-2015 I made probably $40k in sales, although offers and sales have pretty much come to a halt in the last year or so.
 
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Just reading the XR thread, don't want to start a debate off there, so this is the best place to do it.

But yeah a few investors in XR domains lately, but no one has any definite answer what it stands for; does that not ring a few alarm bells?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Reality_(XR)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_reality
And now 'Mixed Reality' is being thrown into the mix what it can stand for?

I am seeing lately mixed reality now being reffered to as xR not Mr so this trend seems to be catching on i think the mr mister thing has seen this change @Elad n whats your thoughts

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As i said in our private talks, i love the longtail Mixed Reality and know it has a future and see the option of Mixed Reality and XR means the same and XR becomes an acronym for Mixed Reality instead of MR later on. It can happen.
 
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