Do you list your names for sale immediately after registration?

Yes I do with a make offer.

Yes i do , with BIN .

IMMEDIATEMENT!

I list my domains for make offer on multiple marketplaces and make my own lander on my site straight away.. would really like to get in to renting domain space as some consistent income stream but don't know where to start. If anyone wants to give some advice feel free to PM!

Criterion811 said:

would really like to get in to renting domain space as some consistent income stream but don't know where to start.

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Epik has the option to rent and/or lease domains if they are registered with them (you can still list in their marketplace if they are regged elsewhere). Right now it is 8.49 for a .com and 8.10 per if you pre fund your account.

I have rented domains before, but it hasn't always worked out, sometimes after a while the tenant gets lazy and assumes that s/he owns the domain and figures you cannot sell it to anyone else, since it has been off the market for so long, so to speak, or simply gets used to having it without laying out much money, and offers very little to buy it.

Better, are payment plans, where the price is set and buyer gets the domain after the final payment, or, if does not make all payments, you simply take the domain back. You allow them the full use of the domain immediately, and set nameservers however they like, but do not transfer title on the domain until/unless final payment.

Another option is lease with option to buy, where the purchase price is set. Somewhat like an automobile lease, with low payments and a residual.

Great advice both thanks, I imagine renting / leasing to buy a domain could be useful where a customer doesn't want to pay your full asking price straight off, rather than lose the sale completely I could offer them a rent. Thanks

Do you use Epik for payment and leasing plans?

xynames said:

I have rented domains before, but it hasn't always worked out, sometimes after a while the tenant gets lazy and assumes that s/he owns the domain and figures you cannot sell it to anyone else, since it has been off the market for so long, so to speak, or simply gets used to having it without laying out much money, and offers very little to buy it.

Better, are payment plans, where the price is set and buyer gets the domain after the final payment, or, if does not make all payments, you simply take the domain back. You allow them the full use of the domain immediately, and set nameservers however they like, but do not transfer title on the domain until/unless final payment.

Another option is lease with option to buy, where the purchase price is set. Somewhat like an automobile lease, with low payments and a residual.

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No, I sometimes offer the client the option to use DomainAgents, but since I’m an established domain broker and my company has been domaining since 2002, they seem to trust me so I just execute private contracts directly with them.

I'm quite pleased with my Fox Foo experiment, although it's taking a lot more time than I thought. The objectives are -

• It needs to be quick to add a new name
• Include a sales page for direct navigation of the name
• Link to a BIN or make offer page in a registrar market site
• Be included in a sales list on the site homepage
• Preserve search traffic for the keyphrase after the name has been sold.
• Require minimal hosting resources

If it turns out to be a success, I might have a go at writing a page generator

Yes, with immediate effect. I sold a name just 5 days after reg, date.

Kuffy said:

Fox Foo experiment

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And what's Fox Foo?

Josytal said:

And what's Fox Foo?

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http://foxfoo.com/

I'm not sure about the rules for listing our own sites here - it seems to vary from board to board, and that is why I didn't post the link. It's also very embryonic, as I haven't done any of the css - it's just text and a few images. I wanted to work out the cross-linking and URL forwarding before I spent too much time on design.

Kuffy said:

http://foxfoo.com/

I'm not sure about the rules for listing our own sites here - it seems to vary from board to board, and that is why I didn't post the link. It's also very embryonic, as I haven't done any of the css - it's just text and a few images. I wanted to work out the cross-linking and URL forwarding before I spent too much time on design.

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Got it. You can visit mine too,

https://namecape.com

maybe you'll borrow some additional useful ideas. I developed everything from scratch. I worked extra on complex search mechanism, being one of the problem areas even with many popular marketplaces.

Landers too are tested and they convert a bit above average.

Nice prices.

My problem was designing a lattice structure, and retaining the search traffic after a name sale. This is why I don't include the extension in the directory or much of the text. For a name like Bitcoin scammer, I can add some text articles, and try to get the page into the search rankings, then when the name sells, I can take out the links to the domain name sales, and substitute links to other Bitcoin sales pages.
I noticed that with your site, a direct navigation hit goes to the registrar sales page, on mine, it goes to the sales directory on Fox Foo.

Kuffy said:

Nice prices

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The domains on homepage are the those I've decided are premium. I'm thinking of increasing the prices.

Kuffy said:

My problem was designing a lattice structure

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Concentrate on search mechanism first. It's critical to the success or failure. It should the cornerstone of the project.
Check this out and you'll understand what i mean:

https://namecape.com/domainlist.php

Kuffy said:

I noticed that with your site, a direct navigation hit goes to the registrar sales page

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No registrar pages of any sort. It's the script that automatically generates unique landing page for every domain in the database.
You see, the landers are so impressive that even you confused them with regitrar's page!
Clap for me!

Dominic Belley said:

Yes. Every domain I buy is for sale on Afternic or elsewhere the minute it reaches my account.

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Is it automatic via API or manual? How do you find the time to add domains daily? Why not do it weekly or monthly?

Kuffy said:

Some names I approach the other way round. If I think it is good for a quick flip, then I'll list the name at a low price (sometimes as low as $25).

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Just $25? Why? Someone who is buying at $25 can surely pay $50 or $75 as well?

WatchDogue said:

Yes! Any name we reg as a likely name for sale gets put up for sale same day, ASAP. Acquired 5 names this week and each was listed " for sale " within an hour of purchase confirmation and, all files I use for their specific data storage completed too, ASAP

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What's meant by Data Storage? Also, do you use BIN?

DN_Hunter said:

Like others mentioned -- as soon as it hits my account, I set it up at my online market place (Landing page is Efty but I also update my marketplace at ToughDomains)

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Do you see any sales from your own marketplace?

dnrabbit said:

Just $25? Why? Someone who is buying at $25 can surely pay $50 or $75 as well?

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I had a few thousand dollars in a bank account, and I wanted to convert them into Bitcoin. I decided that it was more profitable to do this via domain flips. Especially as I like treasure hunting in the drop lists. I made some initial sales at prices between $25 and $95 for a quick return for no sales effort. It hasn't been as rewarding as I hoped, so I'll dump a few at $10, and start marketing the rest at $250 and more.

I list mine for sale straight away but as make offer. On marketplaces like afternic, sedo and undeveloped. My nameservers usually point to the afternic page, however im debating whether to get efty or not.

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Do you see any sales from your own marketplace?

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Yes I have sales periodically. But to be fair to the Market Places they do have more visibility -- I understand I could probably generate more sales using those market places (Afternic, BrandBucket, etc...) -- but I really dislike paying their commissions for names I think can sell themselves. I'm probably penny-wise and pound foolish, but I can live with that for now while I try to build my own Market Place and as long as my sales cover my annual costs (Domain Renewal fees + New purchases + Domain Market Fees)

dnrabbit said:

What's meant by Data Storage? Also, do you use BIN?

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I do lots of research prior to acquiring any domain name - and - keep copies of all data that influenced me to acquire the new name in both online and hard copy files.

For example, an article, TM search results, search engine results, comp sales and the like all may have a role in my acquisition of a name to offer for sale.

IF I decide to acquire a name I make myself build it's data storage files in conjunction with the actual purchase of the name - then I have my records of why I bought the name and other details - price, search results, comps etc. etc.

My use of Data Storage files is my term for my record keeping - and sometimes months or years after a name is acquired it proves helpful to have the point of purchase data should a defense or clarification of the name arise.

I keep most .com names for many years and want to have available the purchase period records that I used to initially decide to purchase the name.

Most names that I " list for sale immediately " have a reasonable to slightly high Buy Now price - and I adjust such prices as I see Traffic, other comp sales, etc.

All this work that we do to promote names, and I've just had an enquiry through the privacy monitor in the whois for a name. The name isn't listed anywhere, it's not parked or hosted either. Sometimes I think the whois page is the best selling page for a name.

dnrabbit said:

Is it automatic via API or manual? How do you find the time to add domains daily? Why not do it weekly or monthly?

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No it is not API, it is manual. It only takes 5 minutes to add a domain to all marketplaces. No need to have that process automatized.

I don't add domains daily. I don't even buy domains every week. I don't even buy domains every month.

Immediately on my own sales page. Then same or next day I add them to Afternic, Sedo, Uniregistry etc... 90%+ of all sales come direct though because that's where the domains point. So no commission fees and buyer pays all escrow fees on the majority of my sales.

xynames said:

IMMEDIATEMENT!

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Josytal said:

Yes, with immediate effect. I sold a name just 5 days after reg, date.

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stewmath said:

I list mine for sale straight away but as make offer. On marketplaces like afternic, sedo and undeveloped. My nameservers usually point to the afternic page, however im debating whether to get efty or not.

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SpareDomains said:

Immediately on my own sales page. Then same or next day I add them to Afternic, Sedo, Uniregistry etc... 90%+ of all sales come direct though because that's where the domains point. So no commission fees and buyer pays all escrow fees on the majority of my sales.

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Really curious how you guys manage to get around the transfer lock? As far as I know, most domain registrars have a transfer lock period of anywhere between 15 to 60 days, with the majority of them being having a 60-day lock period.