new gtlds Mike Mann: “Read my lips gTLDs are DEA*D, absolutely no demand!”

lennco · Nov 15, 2016

Mike Mann shared on Facebook my article about the bad landrush phase that .Blog domains had last week and also shared his views on the New gTLDs in general:

Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand! This was the best out of thousands, along with .web and .app Better luck with other snake oil. .Com stays king. If you also voted for Hillary, rough week. TYVMI.

He also made several other comments about new extensions such as:

How about don’t but them at all, they serve no purpose and cause many problems, and waste a lot of time and money.

Now that everyone knows gTLDs are dead, please Google “Mike Mann gTLDs” and you will see I hit the predictions spot on.

He continued by quoting my article:

Ruggh ruoggh, too many scooby snacks: “So the .blog registry made more than $150,000 from the landrush phase. That doesn’t seem bad but the registry spent $19 million to get rights for the .blog new extension.” Not counting millions per year of overhead. Lesson learned, listen to the mann next time and stick with .Com

He then made more comments like:

“Don't renew your fancy new gtld domains. The experiment is over. No material resale market will take root.”

Mike replied to a comment made by Phil Harris

26 million registered and new sites being launched daily .. X.company being used by Google , Rightside stock just raised to buy status by zachs investment firm .. Awareness growing , secondary 6 figure sales being made , Mike I would say you should watch the movie God is not dead ..

by saying

sure sounds like a bubble

Mike today talked about Google and .soy:

Google spent some energy telling me how ".soy" domain extension was going to be the next big thing a while back, I tried to splain what was up….. Not to discount the fine folks, fancy offices, and great buffet. Googs, gimme a buzz, I’m still a know it all.

Drinking own Koolaid instead of listening to grassroots in the streets

Technically I havent checked the sales numbers but lets take a wild guess, dramatically lower than their expenses…….. like I told them nicely before they invested

Konstantinos Zournas November 14, 2016
http://onlinedomain.com/2016/11/14/...nn-read-lips-gtlds-dead-absolutely-no-demand/

Premiums · May 22, 2017

Jv1999 said:
It's because they cost between 30 to 100 to reggae or renew. But a .com only costs 1 -15. . .

atinc · May 22, 2017

Guys give me the registration numbers for dot com between 1985 to 1989.

If you want to compare it with new gTLDs compare it right.

Whatever time take dot com to gain common knowledge?

You have to wait exact time to see the real value of new gTLDs.

JB Lions · May 22, 2017

atinc said:
Guys give me the registration numbers for dot com between 1985 to 1989.

If you want to compare it with new gTLDs compare it right.

Whatever time take dot com to gain common knowledge?

You have to wait exact time to see the real value of new gTLDs.

Are you serious? Even after I literally explained it to you? You want to compare .com reg numbers from 1985-1989? Browsers/websites did not exist then.

RamBabuSEO · May 22, 2017

Saying "NO DEMAND" isn't justifiable verdict to all gTLD extension. As we all know, there have been quite so many nice deals were made through gTLD. With due respect to .Com historical legacy, they are sure the best and ever will be. But gTLD also seems to be running in it nice pace as slower as the awareness out there in the market respective to whole gTLD extensions.

Fancy.domains said:
So pointless with guys who do not invest in new gTLDs themselves to know all about that market. Just a fraction of the sales are mentioned at Namebio etc. I do report about 10-15% of my own sales. I am personally much more succesful with my new gTLDs than my .COM names.

Mann is one hell of a domainer, but he is obviously biased.

RamBabuSEO · May 22, 2017

Very well said.

deez007 said:
Mike Mann: “Read my lips gTLDs are D*E*A*D, absolutely no demand!”

I'm wondering how Mike wants us to "read his lips" when his statement was a text comment on a social media platform, if he wanted us to actually read his lips he should have uploaded a video.

See, Mike is not some almighty superior being who sh*ts ice cream, a highly talented domainer no doubt but still a human being who is prone to mistakes and being wrong.

Lets not forget that his is also open and often boastful of this constant TM infringing domains. So he has no problem squatting on an existing brand for the benefit of his own pocket. Why do people assume he wont deliberately make negative comments about gTLD's not because he actually believes it but to protect his own investments, protect his pocket?

atinc · May 22, 2017

JB Lions said:
Are you serious? Even after I literally explained it to you? You want to compare .com reg numbers from 1985-1989? BROWSERS/WEBSITES DID NOT EXIST THEN.

Your explanation doesn`t make sense to me.

You don`t show the same patience for new gTLDs.

As I mentioned above world population is growing each year and new businesses will arise as a result.

When did you last register a dot com literally and what was it?

And what is your favorite domain you own today, you probably bought it way long ago...

new gTLDs , you don`t have this problem.

frank-germany · May 22, 2017

atinc said:
Guys give me the registration numbers for dot com between 1985 to 1989.

If you want to compare it with new gTLDs compare it right.

Whatever time take dot com to gain common knowledge?

You have to wait exact time to see the real value of new gTLDs.

I guess are are really mistaken if you think that is relevant an comparable

they did not close the .com meanwhile

atinc · May 22, 2017

frank-germany said:
I guess are are really mistaken if you think that is relevant an comparable

they did not close the .com meanwhile

The point I am trying to highlight is dot com is a mature industry it is already fullfilled..

On the other hand new gTLDs are young and have much more space to register comparing to dot com.

Eventually they will mature and fulfilled too. That will be the time to see its real value.

7 billion people on earth each year internet usage grows and population grows and young kids grows to have businesses.

frank-germany · May 22, 2017

atinc said:
The point I am trying to highlight is dot com is a mature industry it is already fullfilled..

On the other hand new gTLDs are young and have much more space to register comparing to dot com.

Eventually they will mature and fulfilled too. That will be the time to see its real value.

7 billion people on earth each year internet usage grows and population grows and young kids grows to have businesses.

check what happend to .mobi / .tel
and idn names ( 2003)

Eric Lyon · May 22, 2017

Jv1999 said:
The theory makes sense. . . But gltds are going to be dead, not because of Mann or lack of exposure. . . It's because they cost between 30 to 100 to reggae or renew. But a .com only costs 1 -15. . .

It sounds like you're saying .com is better because it's "cheap". Remember, the $1 store items generally don't last as long as the name brand items. I don't think "cheap" is the right strategy.

JB Lions · May 22, 2017

atinc said:
Your explanation doesn`t make sense to me.

You don`t show the same patience for new gTLDs.

As I mentioned above world population is growing each year and new businesses will arise as a result.

When did you last register a dot com literally and what was it?

And what is your favorite domain you own today, you probably bought it way long ago...

new gTLDs , you don`t have this problem.

That's false. Just like with any extension, domainers want to scoop up the best keywords. Nowadays it mainly the registries, but the best are usually gone day 1 and earlier. So if a business wants it, is it going to be there to hand reg? Probably not. So they'll probably have to buy it from a domainer/registry. And with the examples earlier, I showed you that you can get cultural tourism domains in .com for not that much. You would probably charge more. And this isn't even taking into account some ridiculous renewal rates, on top of being on some new extension most people have probably never heard of.

atinc · May 22, 2017

frank-germany said:
check what happend to .mobi / .tel
and idn names ( 2003)

never liked .mobi never registered a single one.

when we talk about new gTLDs there are so many of them some good quality some not.

And timing is also a very important factor here.

Eric Lyon · May 22, 2017

frank-germany said:
I can't agree.
These guys really don't need to promote .com as such.

They could easily invest into new tlds, if they wished.

It's human nature to rebel against change. However, change is inevitable.

JB Lions · May 22, 2017

atinc said:
never liked .mobi never registered a single one.

when we talk about new gTLDs there are so many of them some good quality some not.

And timing is also a very important factor here.

Hopefully you have sold them or are selling them now, instead of left holding them.

JB Lions · May 22, 2017

Eric Lyon said:
It's human nature to rebel against change. However, change is inevitable.

When there is actual progress, a market etc. There are some that are already failing. There are past extensions before all of this that have taken a downward spiral. Numbers are dropping already, most of these are Chinese regs, a lot of them cheap regs. Where is all this market?

Just look at the country breakdown, 46% China - https://ntldstats.com/country

Most of the world doesn't seem to care about them.

atinc · May 22, 2017

Eric Lyon said:
It sounds like you're saying .com is better because it's "cheap". Remember, the $1 store items generally don't last as long as the name brand items. I don't think "cheap" is the right strategy.

Exactly, it is like stock market.

Buying a single stock vs buying a bulk stock share.

or investing on penny stocks vs NASDAQ

atinc · May 22, 2017

JB Lions said:
Hopefully you have sold them or are selling them now, instead of left holding them.

The question is can you sell your dot coms like before you did after new gTLDs established?

We are all holding on our domains that we invested.

no matter what the extension is and that counts for your portfolio as well.

JB Lions · May 22, 2017

atinc said:
The question is can you sell your dot coms like before you did after new gTLDs established?

We are all holding on our domains that we invested.

no matter what the extension is and that counts for your portfolio as well.

Yes, I've having my best year.

And demand? If there is demand, do numbers go up or down? Numbers are going down. So I ask, what demand?

Jv1999 · May 22, 2017

Eric Lyon said:
It sounds like you're saying .com is better because it's "cheap". Remember, the $1 store items generally don't last as long as the name brand items. I don't think "cheap" is the right strategy.

Well, I mean for end users.

Why would they want Sandsof.time if it costs $50 every year, when they could have SandsofTime.com for only $8 - $10 renewal?

I guess if you have a big business, the expenses won't matter ^_^. But most of us sell to end users with personal / small businesses who have smaller budgets.

Unless you're implying that gltds are for big businesses only

atinc · May 22, 2017

JB Lions said:
Yes, I've having my best year.

And demand? If there is demand, do numbers go up or down?

You just skipped my question below:

When did you last register a dot com literally and what was it?

And what is your favorite domain you own today, you probably bought it way long ago...

new gTLDs , you don`t have this problem.

JB Lions · May 22, 2017

atinc said:
You just skipped my question below:

When did you last register a dot com literally and what was it?

And what is your favorite domain you own today, you probably bought it way long ago...

new gTLDs , you don`t have this problem.

You do have that problem with new gtlds, I just went thru it, you don't read. I have lots of favorites, all bought within last few years on the aftermarket. You don't know this because you don't participate.

As far as skipping, you just skipped every point I brought up about it. Post 161, take it apart.

Eric Lyon · May 22, 2017

JB Lions said:
When there is actual progress, a market etc. There are some that are already failing. There are past extensions before all of this that have taken a downward spiral. Numbers are dropping already, most of these are Chinese regs, a lot of them cheap regs. Where is all this market?

Just look at the country breakdown, 46% China - https://ntldstats.com/country

Most of the world doesn't seem to care about them.

Dinosaurs ruled the earth at one time as well. But then, so did the romans, and persia. Legacy domains are the industries dinosaurs and the progress in today's technology is starting to shift. History unquestionably shows that change is inevitable in all markets (even with the Amish) and no one thing will dominate a market forever without change of some kind.

Landov · May 22, 2017

JB Lions said:
New gltds have been a boon for Namepros

I'm glad that it is so. It's a Gold Rush. NamePros helps humanity.

atinc · May 22, 2017

JB Lions said:
You do have that problem with new gtlds, I just went thru it, you don't read. I have lots of favorites, all bought within last few years on the aftermarket. You don't know this because you don't participate.

As far as skipping, you just skipped every point I brought up about it. Post 161, take it apart.

It doesn`t mean that I don`t participate if I don`t buy from you.

I had aftermarket purchases before new gTLDs became available, now I have many more options to register.

Don`t you sense that your latest purchases became longer and longer in terms of letters you are typing in on the left of dot com?

Does it means that your portfolio is upgrading with those long domains?

JB Lions · May 22, 2017

Eric Lyon said:
Dinosaurs ruled the earth at one time as well. But then, so did the romans, and persia. Legacy domains are the industries dinosaurs and the progress in today's technology is starting to shift. History unquestionably shows that change is inevitable in all markets (even with the Amish) and no one thing will dominate a market forever without change of some kind.

That's so beyond ridiculous, I can't believe you actually posted that. So .com is the dinosaur and new gtlds are something better/new? Why not let everybody know which extension exactly is going to kill the "dinosaur"

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