poll Travel.Agency what will it sell for

betthelot · Mar 1, 2016

Travel.agency has to be one of the most relevant new gTLDs and therefore one would expect it to be one of the most valuable. It has 110,000 exact match searches per month on Google.
The question is what would the name now sell for?
I’m going to estimates in today's market it will sell for $7000
I think the downside of this name is that travel agencies use brands and not keywords. Keywords have lost favour over the last few years due to Google's change in the search algorithm.
Interested to see what other members think it will sell for and why and seeing who is the closet.
Also think it will be sold to a domainer and not to an end-user. And at $7000 I think there will be little upside when trying to remarket it to an end user.

mad409 · Mar 4, 2016

@betthelot Every time you reply and bump this thread you do know you're helping spread the word about new gTLDS, right? I'd like to say thank you for that free promotion and awareness, form all the new gTLD investors!

betthelot · Mar 4, 2016

mad409 said:
@betthelot Every time you reply and bump this thread you do know you're helping spread the word about new gTLDS, right? I'd like to say thank you for that free promotion and awareness, form all the new gTLD investors!

I will stop Mad409. Doh! Homer Simpson moment.

1NiteStand · Mar 4, 2016

Guessing around 15k. Good as a supplement to the already established brand.

S-B · Mar 4, 2016

BrandClub.com said:
Marketplace auctions are 99% domainer-to-domainer sales !

Would love to see the statistics and research on that claim.

BrandClub.com · Mar 4, 2016

Shane Bellone said:
Would love to see the statistics and research on that claim.

End-users (those that pay top-dollar) for domains don´t even know that marketplaces and auctions exist.
Almost all sales on marketplaces are domainer-2-domainer.

S-B · Mar 4, 2016

BrandClub.com said:
End-users (those that pay top-dollar) for domains don´t even know that marketplaces and auctions exist.
Almost all sales on marketplaces are domainer-2-domainer.

Sounds like speculation to me. Come back with an industry study, analysis, or literally anything...

BrandClub.com · Mar 4, 2016

Shane Bellone said:
Sounds like speculation to me. Come back with an industry study, analysis, or literally anything...

If you have more than 3 days in the industry you don´t need an analysis to know that domain marketplaces close very few sales to end-users. Most are between investors. By end-user I mean a person that has a business use along with the desire to own your domain.

S-B · Mar 4, 2016

BrandClub.com said:
If you have more than 3 days in the industry you don´t need an analysis to know that domain marketplaces close very few sales to end-users. Most are between investors. By end-user I mean a person that has a business use along with the desire to own your domain.

Are you really trying to educate me on what an enduser is?

You're speculating. There is no reason to inject opinion into something that SHOULD be a factual statement.

daj · Mar 4, 2016

Perhaps we should ask two questions...

1. How much would this domain sell for if it was a regular domainer who owned it?

2. How much will this domain sell for since it's Ali Zandi's domain?

I'm sure there would be a big difference between the end price.

S-B · Mar 4, 2016

daj said:
Perhaps we should ask two questions...

1. How much would this domain sell for if it was a regular domainer who owned it?

2. How much will this domain sell for since it's Ali Zandi's domain?

I'm sure there would be a big difference between the end price.

I'm sure Ali has more followers on Flippa than most, however, if it was an enduser sale I don't think there would be a major difference. Just my 2 cents.

TRY · Mar 4, 2016

betthelot said:
Travel.agency is up for auction on flippa and has been listed by Ali Zandi.
It has to be one of the most relevant new gTLDs and therefore one would expect it to be one of the most valuable. It has 110,000 exact match searches per month on Google. Approximately 28 days left on the auction and it is a no reserve auction.
The question is what would the name now sell for?
I’m going to estimates in today's market it will sell for $7000
I think the downside of this name is that travel agencies use brands and not keywords. Keywords have lost favour over the last few years due to Google's change in the search algorithm.
Interested to see what other members think it will sell for and why and seeing who is the closet.
Also think it will be sold to a domainer and not to an end-user. And at $7000 I think there will be little upside when trying to remarket it to an end user.

I wish him luck with the auction. P.s. So many people say that brands don't like keywords, but the fact of the matter is if you look at the top 100 brands they own many of the best one-word keywords. They don't use them for their main site obviously but they own them, and that's a fact.

betthelot · Mar 4, 2016

Brandingtheweb.com said:
I wish him luck with the auction. P.s. So many people say that brands don't like keywords, but the fact of the matter is if you look at the top 100 brands they own many of the best one-word keywords. They don't use them for their main site obviously but they own them, and that's a fact.

If they got a long tail URL may make sense to run them both or if its killer keyword for the vertical in ccTLD or .com. I hear your point and in that sense it has value

TRY · Mar 4, 2016

betthelot said:
If they got a long tail URL may make sense to run them both or if its killer keyword for the vertical in ccTLD or .com. I hear your point and in that sense it has value

I don't want to weigh in on my opinion since it is at auction and I hope he does well. I do think it will sell for good money though. P.s. when I was speaking about keywords I meant it generally. Personally I'm not into new gTLDs.

betthelot · Mar 4, 2016

There is a general order of magnitude that it will sell between 7K - 15K. Pretty much a consensus of what the wholesale market is for this name.

168 · Mar 4, 2016

betthelot said:
I'm not teaching. I'm passing on your pearls of wisdom, for the greater benefit of others.

Your passing on a condescending attitude, it is neither enlightening or educational. please stop.

BrandClub.com · Mar 4, 2016

Shane Bellone said:
Are you really trying to educate me on what an enduser is?

Was not my intention at all ... I was just trying to make you understand about what type of end-user I was talking. Sorry

asset.domains · Mar 4, 2016

based on past 2 days bids , there is 1k increase per day ,so based on that we have a forecast if 30k 'the end of the day' ( only based on bid history, not the valuation price )

S-B · Mar 4, 2016

asset.domains said:
based on past 2 days bids , there is 1k increase per day ,so based on that we have a forecast if 30k 'the end of the day' ( only based on bid history, not the valuation price )

That's literally not how auctions works. Flippa auctions die after the first few days and then bidding resumes at the end.

betthelot · Mar 4, 2016

168 said:
Your passing on a condescending attitude, it is neither enlightening or educational. please stop.

Your a bit late 168 because I have stopped. It was all good fun and me and BrandClub.com are just fine. I just ran with his comment that I had a lot to learn. Good to test views even if it is in a humorous way. I know you dont find it funny, its British humour.

JB Lions · Mar 4, 2016

BrandClub.com said:
@JB Lions I just can believe you said that ...

Before you make any outher comment about New gTLDs please make sure you understood that domain names are composed by LEFT & RIGHT of the dot (RIGHT of the DOT is the extension ...)

Travel.info (TRAVEL = keyword / .INFO = extension)

Travel.agency (TRAVEL = keyword / .AGENCY = extension)

What makes a domain name UNIQUE is the combination between keyword(s) & extension ...

Everybody can own a domain name that include the keyword "TRAVEL" ...
Everybody can own a domain name in the .INFO or .AGENCY extensions ...

But only one person can own Travel.info or Travel.agency because they are UNIQUE due to the LEFT+RIGHT combination

How can we expect end-users to understand New gTLDs, when even some domainers don´t

You still don't grasp this. I have to consider the source, one who believes that new gtlds will be more valuable than an equivalent .com, when probably 90%+ of those invest of them haven't gone that far off the deep end.

If you want comparables for travel.agency, obviously you use both words. It matters.

If I asked you to put these in order in terms of value:

travel.agency
shoes.agency
sex.agency
beer.agency
waterheaters.agency

Can you tell me which one you would put first and why.

domainsoup · Mar 4, 2016

BrandClub.com said:
What a pain people like you are loosing this fantastic opportunity to cash on it ...
Unless you started in domaining 25 years ago and own a large portfolio of one word .COM domains to make good money selling them at today market price, you are loosing the 2nd biggest opportunity internet presents since his creation ...

2nd biggest opportunity since creation? No... Here's the difference. When .com came out it was possible to for REG FEE get things like elephant.com tiger.com

This "opportunity" has the registry eliminate the best names immediately. Call.mom is $15,000 PREMIUM name. Will an enduser even pay that much?

domainsoup · Mar 4, 2016

Listen gTLDs like these are hacks.

Only thing different is google might treat GTLD extension more favorably globally than a cctld.

All google needs to do is tweak its algorithm slightly and stuff like firsthou.se can match first.house in ranking

Michael Seatory · Mar 4, 2016

domainsoup said:
Listen gTLDs like these are hacks.

Only thing different is google might treat GTLD extension more favorably globally than a cctld.

All google needs to do is tweak its algorithm slightly and stuff like firsthou.se can match first.house in ranking

If that happens I will no longer use the internet. firsthou.se LOL

BrandClub.com · Mar 4, 2016

JB Lions said:
You still don't grasp this. I have to consider the source, one who believes that new gtlds will be more valuable than an equivalent .com, when probably 90%+ of those invest of them haven't gone that far off the deep end.

If you want comparables for travel.agency, obviously you use both words. It matters.

If I asked you to put these in order in terms of value:

travel.agency
shoes.agency
sex.agency
beer.agency
waterheaters.agency

Can you tell me which one you would put first and why.

My friend:

IN WHICH LANGUAGE MAY I WRITE IN ORDER TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT DOMAINS ARE COMPOSED BY LEFT & RIGHT OF THE DOT ???

What´s on the LEFT of the DOT is/are keyword(s) and what´s on the RIGHT of the dot is/are extension(s) ...

Following your criteria to take the whole URL as a single phrase than:

Travel.agency becomes TravelAgency

Travel.com becomes TravelCom (a worthless domain)

Travel.info becomes TravelInfo

enough examples or you need more ???

JB Lions · Mar 4, 2016

BrandClub.com said:
My friend:

IN WHICH LANGUAGE MAY I WRITE IN ORDER TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT DOMAINS ARE COMPOSED BY LEFT & RIGHT OF THE DOT ???

What´s on the LEFT of the DOT is/are keyword(s) and what´s on the RIGHT of the dot is/are extension(s) ...

Following your criteria to take the whole URL as a single phrase than:

Travel.agency becomes TravelAgency

Travel.com becomes TravelCom (a worthless domain)

Travel.info becomes TravelInfo

enough examples or you need more ???

Like I said, you don't understand extensions like .com, .net, .xyz, future .web are more neutral in which any keyword can go with them, unlike these niche extensions. Somebody in the business shouldn't be struggling to understand this basic stuff.

Can you answer this question for me:

travel.agency
shoes.agency
sex.agency
beer.agency
waterheaters.agency

Can you tell me which one you would put first and why.

Comparables for travel.agency

would be
travelagency.com - it's this one

travel.com - you think it's this one

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