alert The fund can't be withdrawal from Epik.com via Masterbucks wallet

[enamebroker]

It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[GNP]

Looks like he didn't get paid after all? A new article has been published:

Knowing so much about how Epik has functioned recently, I highly doubt the author removed his multiple original posts until he already had received his money.

This new article clearly mentions specific situations that OTHER people have publically talked about. In other words, it would seem the author is intentionally ensuring that any NDA he signed about HIS situation isn't broken.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this article seems to have more listed sources than his original articles too.
As a result, he can claim -- and rightly so -- that he is just doing a news article on the current situation. While Epik obviously won't like this -- since the article is all based on other people's claims (with sources listed) -- there really isn't anything they can do about it.

That at least is my current take on it. Now if the original article(s) get republished, then he probably didn't get paid and/or didn't sign a NDA.

 

[bmugford]

Knowing so much about how Epik has functioned recently, I highly doubt the author removed his multiple original posts until he already had received his money.

This new article clearly mentions specific situations that OTHER people have publically talked about. In other words, it would seem the author is intentionally ensuring that any NDA he signed about HIS situation isn't broken.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this article seems to have more listed sources than his original articles too.
As a result, he can claim -- and rightly so -- that he is just doing a news article on the current situation. While Epik obviously won't like this -- since the article is all based on other people's claims (with sources listed) -- there really isn't anything they can do about it.

That at least is my current take on it. Now if the original article(s) get republished, then he probably didn't get paid and/or didn't sign a NDA.

All the old articles load again for me, so they seem to have been restored.

My speculation is that all the writer might have received from Epik are false promises, like everyone else.

Regardless, as far as an NDA or whatever, Epik can take that and shove it up their ass.

You don't get to set the terms in paying back the money you owe.

There are not conditions that they can compel you to meet to receive payment you are rightfully owed. They can't make removing negative comments or reviews a requirement for being paid money that you are owed.

Can I force my bank to sign an NDA and capitulate to my terms because I don't want to pay my credit card debt? The whole idea is absurd.

Brad

 

[GNP]

All the old articles load again for me, so they seem to have been restored.

My speculation is that all the writer might have received from Epik are false promises, like everyone else.

Regardless, as far as an NDA or whatever, Epik can take that and shove it up their ass.

You don't get to set the terms in paying back the money you owe.

There are not conditions that they can compel you to meet to receive payment you are rightfully owed. They can't make removing negative comments or reviews a requirement for being paid money that you are owed.

Can I force my bank to sign an NDA and capitulate to my terms because I don't want to pay my credit card debt? The whole idea is absurd.

Brad

Yes & No.

Anyone can set whatever terms they want for anything. Now whether they are legally enforceable or not is a whole different question (in many cases the answer is no). However, whether something is worthwhile legally fighting is another question.

Example: You go to an amusement park or professional sports event and the odds are 99.9% that somewhere you agreed to a contract not to hold them liable if anything goes wrong. Now is that contract legally binding, in all likelihood NO (at least not that part of it). Now for the typical minor issues of life, it wouldn't be worthwhile fighting that in court, but if something major happened, then the opposite is true.

 

[GNP]

Can I force my bank to sign an NDA and capitulate to my terms because I don't want to pay my credit card debt? The whole idea is absurd.

(Obviously, your point is well taken that it virtually never works out that way.)

Actually, I read an article some years ago about someone that did manage to do something like that with one of the Pre-Approved Credit Card offers that people get sent in the mail. He reprinted it, revised some of the legalese, signed up, sent it back and they signed it and he got the card. The card issuer ended up fighting it, but lost cause they had signed the revised agreement. LOL

 

[bmugford]

Yes & No.

Anyone can set whatever terms they want for anything. Now whether they are legally enforceable or not is a whole different question (in many cases the answer is no). However, whether something is worthwhile legally fighting is another question.

Example: You go to an amusement park or professional sports event and the odds are 99.9% that somewhere you agreed to a contract not to hold them liable if anything goes wrong. Now is that contract legally binding, in all likelihood NO (at least not that part of it). Now for the typical minor issues of life, it wouldn't be worthwhile fighting that in court, but if something major happened, then the opposite is true.

Yeah, but that is not the case here. In fact there was not even a Masterbucks TOS at the time funds were frozen.

It is not like people agreed to have their Masterbucks funds frozen then not be able to withdraw them for months.

I doubt @Kathleen Kalaf agreed to get screwed out of $91K.

A company can't introduce new terms after the fact that you must agree to in order to simply be paid what you are already owed. If that was the case it would really open up the floodgates for contracts of adhesion.

In this case an NDA would be worth less than the paper it is written on.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

(Obviously, your point is well taken that it virtually never works out that way.)

Actually, I read an article some years ago about someone that did manage to do something like that with one of the Pre-Approved Credit Card offers that people get sent in the mail. He reprinted it, revised some of the legalese, signed up, sent it back and they signed it and he got the card. The card issuer ended up fighting it, but lost cause they had signed the revised agreement. LOL

That is an interesting case, but that is more about the initial agreement.

In this case Epik imposed a new Masterbucks TOS when the funds were frozen.
There was no opt-out option, as the funds were frozen.

Epik owes the debt.

This is more about running up debt, then trying to dictate new terms.
That is not how it works.

I mean it is almost a moot point, as Epik is not paying these debts anyway.

Brad

 

[Future Sensors]

@Bravo Mod Team, we have now found that many staff members of Epik.com are no longer working for the company. Some have actively asked NamePros Support to get rid of their Epik.com Staff badge, others seem to remain Epik.com Staff forever, when in fact they are long gone.

This also applies to representatives of other companies, not just those of Epik.

Is there some kind of policy to regularly check for all these folks whether they are still working for (represent) these companies?

Otherwise, I'd like to suggest a cleanup on this one, as it could give the wrong impression to unsuspecting members who mistakenly entrust these Staff members with potentially sensitive information.

https://www.namepros.com/members/?key=representatives

 

[bmugford]

@Bravo Mod Team, we have now found that many staff members of Epik.com are no longer working for the company. Some have actively asked NamePros Support to get rid of their Epik.com Staff badge, others seem to remain Epik.com Staff forever, when in fact they are long gone.

This also applies to representatives of other companies, not just those of Epik.

Is there some kind of policy to regularly check for all these folks whether they are still working for (represent) these companies?

Otherwise, I'd like to suggest a cleanup on this one, as it could give the wrong impression to unsuspecting members who mistakenly trust these Staff members with potentially sensitive information.

https://www.namepros.com/members/?key=representatives

I have mentioned this multiple times, and have basically just been ignored.

There is a good chance that zero of the people with Epik "staff" badges even work there at this point.

This needs to be cleaned up. There is no excuse for not taking action.

Brad

 

[Mister Funsky]

Just for a matter of record, login is not happening at epik again.

 

[Future Sensors]

Just for a matter of record, login is not happening at epik again.

Slightly related. Are customers using the Epik.com API currently experiencing any similar problems as well?

 

[enamebroker]

I guess the thread will reach to page 250.

 

[Future Sensors]

Epik's Masterbucks.com reviews -- "Can Masterbucks be trusted?"

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/masterbucks.com

Date: March 7, 2023

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[Recons.Com]

Epik's Masterbucks.com reviews -- "Can Masterbucks be trusted?"

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/masterbucks.com

Date: March 7, 2023

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[Michele Dinoia]

again lot of problems to login at epik with 2 different browser and different connections

 

[GNP]

Anyone else notice that "TrustPilot" says epik has received:
100% 1-star reviews in the last 12 months, but STILL gives them a 2.1-star rating???

That makes NO sense.

 

[GNP]

again lot of problems to login at epik with 2 different browser and different connections

It should be working now.
I tried it a few minutes ago and couldn't even get the login page to render, just tried again now and it renders fine (in Chrome / Edge) and was able to login too.

 

[Michele Dinoia]

It should be working now.
I tried it a few minutes ago and couldn't even get the login page to render, just tried again now and it renders fine (in Chrome / Edge) and was able to login too.

yeah you need to try and try and sometimes it let it go in, but since 1 hour I'M trying to get auth code to transfer domains and is impossible

 

[GNP]

yeah you need to try and try and sometimes it let it go in, but since 1 hour I'M trying to get auth code to transfer domains and is impossible

Terribly sorry to hear that.
I wonder if Epik's login attempt limit within X period of time COUNTS logins that ARE accurate, too???

 

[Derek Peterson]

again lot of problems to login at epik with 2 different browser and different connections

They are now behind cloudflare instead of that dumb hack job bitmitigate so I don't think it is related to DDoS but there is a strong possibility they set up that subdomain wrong or one of the many 3rd party APIs they no longer use but are still in their code, are causing problems.

Other possibilities include 1) ex devs ticked they got paid in worthless masterbucks so breaking. 2) devs not paid and or fired so no one left to keep the trashfire running, which was probably a full time job. 3) Brian breaking on purpose to keep people from leaving. 4) Rob Monster trying to rek epik out of spite from his prison cell or beach or where ever he is.

We are super slammed this week but might have one of my guys go take a look for the lulz but probably won't be reporting. Being paid a bounty in masterbucks doesn't sound super awesome.

*leaving professional website up with thousands of customers needing access with NO comments or apologies or anything is one of the most pitiful things I have seen on the internet. Total lack of pride in yourself or respect for others. They are not even trying to pretend any more.

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

I just entered.

 

[bmugford]

Anyone else notice that "TrustPilot" says epik has received:
100% 1-star reviews in the last 12 months, but STILL gives them a 2.1-star rating???

That makes NO sense.

20 reviews. 100% 1 star.
2.1 score.

TrustPilot math.



Brad

 

[Derek Peterson]

Rob Monster has been MIA for several weeks and I'm starting to get worried, worried that he's on vacation, I mean on the run, and out there spending all that stolen money or swimming with the fishees in which case all those crypto keys will go missing with him forever. I'm not sure which is better but neither is good option for all the victims out there.

There is also a strong possibility that he has already been picked up and had devices seized and is now part of investigation that probably involves bigger fish than him and has been told, in no uncertain terms, to keep his crazy mouth shut or he'll never get out. In any case, someone has some mighty big leverage over him to keep him offline and quiet, something bigger than civil threats, probably criminal but maybe even bigger. I wish they would stop playing games and stick him to a wall.

I've been really busy lately with irl stuff but I think I should find him and make sure all is good for everyone's sake. Does anyone have email for Joey Camp? For some reason he always gets nervous when i try to talk with him and deletes accounts or blocks. I've heard he's a really good investigator.

 

[topdom]

This is very funny, I just received an email from Epik: "HOW WOULD YOU RATE OUR SUPPORT"

Customer service people want to keep their job (as if it is a good job), instead of being fired because of lack of funds. You are rating a customer service person, not Epik. But Epik would put his own rating on their personnel, and not take our ratings into account anyway, so it is useless.

 

[enamebroker]

I am just curious about anyone still using Epik service.

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

Perhaps both the Monster and his victims can be treated for depression here.