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Just received this email from Dan.com about commission increases (snippet of email):
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
It happens all of the time. You get high volume discounts in almost any kind of large scale buying. You are less work to the company and to keep the business, they reward you with discounted rates. GoDaddy is giving you a discounted rate if you give them your lander traffic. The is no 'trade board or something' to complain to.I don't know anything about trade law, but how can a supermarket charge one customer 75 cent, and another 50 cent? That doesn't seem right. It's actually a 67% markup for those not using the satellites! Somebody should complain to some trade board or something.
I agree.
I will set aside my issues with the commissions going up on Dan.com and removal of the tiered system on Afternic for now. The Afternic flat fee of 15% is probably beneficial to me personally, though I am not just thinking of myself here.
What I really want to focus on is what I consider GoDaddy's monopolistic anti-competition move of charging 25% (instead of 15%) for sales via Afternic/Dan if you are not using GoDaddy affiliated nameservers.
This is a direct shot at competition, trying to compel people to use GD nameservers. The effect of this move is to limit customer choices.
Why should a sale on Afternic not be the same commission regardless? It is essentially a penalty for people making a different choice.
Brad
Any time I buy a domain on Dan.com, I just assume it will not pan out.Maybe they can earn their undeserved raise on their outdated, 90’s website Afternic by you know a word they don’t know exists- innovation .
They can’t even manage to keep nefarious characters from listing our domains on Afternic and DAN let alone do anything actually innovative. It’s embarrassing . The reason DAN is so great to use is because GD had nothing to do with its creation and development.
Good for you. I guess we are just different type of people.I don't get the general concern for your competition. Like you, this move is a benefit to me based on the kind of sales that I get (vast majority under 5k, vast majority through the Afternic Network.
If this hurts people that I'm competing with, I hardly lose any sleep over it.
My sales where coming via DAN, not Afternic.....I was using DAN for BIN / Lease to own and make offer on Afternic, so it would of affected how much I pay out going forwards......I don't get the general concern for your competition. Like you, this move is a benefit to me based on the kind of sales that I get (vast majority under 5k, vast majority through the Afternic Network.
If this hurts people that I'm competing with, I hardly lose any sleep over it.
They aren't limiting your choice, they are offering you a reward to give them your lander traffic. I am already giving Dan/AN 90% of my traffic with the rest going to Brandbucket and Squadhelp. My sales at BB and SH have all come from within those marketplaces, never from AN.
This thread has been filled with people who haven't sold a domain for over 50k complaining about how this change will affect their over 50k volume. With many others claiming that they are leaving today, but we all know they'll still be there (the majority anyway) a year from now.
This is like all of the people complaining about Musk and Twitter, yet they are so addicted to it they can't leave, they just pronounce that they are leaving over and over.
I agree.
I will set aside my issues with the commissions going up on Dan.com and removal of the tiered system on Afternic for now. The Afternic flat fee of 15% is probably beneficial to me personally, though I am not just thinking of myself here.
What I really want to focus on is what I consider GoDaddy's monopolistic anti-competition move of charging 25% (instead of 15%) for sales via Afternic/Dan if you are not using GoDaddy affiliated nameservers.
This is a direct shot at competition, trying to compel people to use GD nameservers. The effect of this move is to limit customer choices.
Why should a sale on Afternic not be the same commission regardless? It is essentially a penalty for people making a different choice.
Brad
Brad, I wish you good luck getting a reply from him. Last time he was active was to vote for GoDaddy in the NamePros registrar poll, which was clearly not allowed.I will tag @Paul Nicks as well to clarify that EVERYONE is subject to the same terms.
I see you have domains at BrandBucket. If you've also listed those domains at Afternic and they sell there, this is where the 25% commission applies. As in: You've sold a domain via Afternic while its nameservers were pointed to BrandBucket (thus not to a GoDaddy-controlled entity) so GoDaddy will take a 25% commission.
And if you sell a domain at BrandBucket or at any other place not associated with GoDaddy, then you don't need to worry about any GD commission as they have no business with your sale (even if said domain was also listed at Afternic or DAN).
BrandBucket sellers have been allowed to list names at Afternic for a while, but the question is if this will be discontinued now.Brandbucket requires exclusivity, so names listed there cannot be listed on Afternic. However, I think I finally understand when the 25% would apply. I do have names listed on Sedo and they are also listed on Afternic. In this case, if the names sells via Afternic (and not Sedo MLS) then GD would take 25% (rather than the 20% I'd pay at Sedo). I've gotta consider whether the extra 5% is worth pulling names off Sedo (since I assume Sedo MLS and Afternic basically overlap other than GD itself). So Afternic is more valuable, although I do sell about the same # of names via Sedo as I do Afternic. I'd actually save 5% by doing this - since most of my names are <$5k. Although I do wonder about losing the European/Chinese sales, which is mostly what I get via Sedo.
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BrandBucket sellers have been allowed to list names at Afternic for a while, but the question is if this will be discontinued now.
It is in your Account Settings:Not sure where you get this info from: On their website it states https://www.brandbucket.com/help/faq/sellers#can_i_list_the_domain_for_sale_elsewhere
"Can I list the domain for sale elsewhere?
The short answer is no. By accepting to list your name at BrandBucket, you agree to contract BrandBucket as the exclusive seller for the duration that this domain name is listed on the marketplace and listing the domain for sale elsewhere violates our agreement.
But though we require exclusivity in listing domains for sale, we promote your names on third-party sites and cross-promote within BrandBucket's website"
Name server | Total Change | % Change | New Domains | Transfers In | Transfers Out | Deleted | Current Total |
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BODIS.COM | -40,141 | -2.92% | 1,126 | 3,192 | -42,790 | -1,669 | 1,375,156 |
DAN.COM | 30,706 | 1.28% | 1,228 | 38,120 | -8,059 | -583 | 2,403,642 |
If they type your domain into the URL bar and arrive at your landing page it will be via DAN, if someone searches for your domain via Afternics network it will be via that path - covers both sides of the coinAnyone here understand the difference between having names on Afternic vs having names on Dan and then flipping the switch to be part of the Afternic distribution network? I already have an existing account on Afternic. When I log into my Dan account it asks me if I want to join the Afternic Distribution Network. What happens in this case? Which one takes precedence? What's the difference between using one or the other -- or using both at the same time? Anyone have any of these answers? Thanks!
If you allready have your Afternic account you don’t enable it on DAN. You can even remove the unnecessary columns under change view. This feature is for users who are not allready on Afternic.Anyone here understand the difference between having names on Afternic vs having names on Dan and then flipping the switch to be part of the Afternic distribution network? I already have an existing account on Afternic. When I log into my Dan account it asks me if I want to join the Afternic Distribution Network. What happens in this case? Which one takes precedence? What's the difference between using one or the other -- or using both at the same time? Anyone have any of these answers? Thanks!
Yeah, I get that. But I'm referring to the back end of things. Let's say we have an account with Dan and also have an account with Afternic. Same names in both accounts. If we "turn on" the Afternic Distribution Network from within our Dan account, does it turn off the Afternic account? What if names are priced differently between Dan and Afternic? Which one takes precedence? Which price is displayed throughout the "network"?If they type your domain into the URL bar and arrive at your landing page it will be via DAN, if someone searches for your domain via Afternics network it will be via that path - covers both sides of the coin
Despicable.These are the daily stats for today, 6/1/23
Name server Total Change % Change New Domains Transfers In Transfers Out Deleted Current Total BODIS.COM -40,141 -2.92% 1,126 3,192 -42,790 -1,669 1,375,156 DAN.COM 30,706 1.28% 1,228 38,120 -8,059 -583 2,403,642
The biggest NS movement of the day was portfolio holding 29,755 domains that moved from Bodis to DAN.
https://dailychanges.domaintools.com/top-movements/
So the migration towards the monopoly has started...