discuss .LINK binge continues

[ThatNameGuy]

".LINK is no worse than .XYZ".....like the .com loyalists despising the .xyz insurgence, the .xyz loyalists despise the .link insurgence.

While most of the really good "single word" .link domains have been registered still a few remain. For example, the day after Thanksgiving I was able to register Thankfulness.link that happens to be no worse than Thankfulness.xyz or Thankfulness.com.

In the way of an update.....domains under management aka DUM has grown from 200,000 to 221,000 since May, and 1,500 of those I've registered. In addition, i have it from some reliable sources that "Good News is Coming"

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I'd be more interested in hearing why .link is a better alternative than any other new TLD.

First Joe....thanks for the life lines you keep sending. If it were not for you and Brad and a few others .LINK would have died a natural gTLD death a few months ago. Here's what a friend and one of the most respected "Top Contributors" on NP had to say about .link;

"I had not heard until your post that the new owners of .link had been announced, finally. Good to hear one is a successful domain investor. In my view .link was by far the most valuable of the auctioned TLDs from the former Uniregistry. I hope the new owners will manage the TLD well.

The extension is more generic than many new TLDs, and has reasonable renewal rates, both positives."

While this isn't an endorsement Joe, it speaks volumes imo.

Note further that I don't need to convince you, but the "end user" needs to be convinced. Realizing that few "end users" even know what a gTLD is, i just changed the title name of the "Users Group" I started on Linkedin from, "LINK" new gTLD User Group to "LINK" new Domain Extension User Group.

Anyway, your query has me thinking of doing a SWOT or maybe a SOAR analysis for .link. I know Jean Guillon will do it for a fee because that's what he does, and even Bob Hawkes might do something similar here on NP? Unfortunately most of the critics here are bias, but that can me a good thing. What do you think Joe?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Yes, that is the key point.

What makes it better than any of the almost countless other alternatives?

Brad

Brad....read my response to Joe. I know you're on Linkedin because it's part of your signature. And I know you're aware that Linkedin has over 850 Million members that can relate to "link" being a keyword according to the infamous Go Daddy. One thing I do know Brad is that ".LINK is no worse than .Horse"....what do you say?

 

[Chris Hydrick]

EatFree.link

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Chris....i just luv your sense of humor. Were you aware that next to sex, humor sells too i just sent you a Linkedin invite and would like to share something with you. Thanks

 

[Joe N]

Here's what a friend and one of the most respected "Top Contributors" on NP had to say about .link;

"I had not heard until your post that the new owners of .link had been announced, finally. Good to hear one is a successful domain investor. In my view .link was by far the most valuable of the auctioned TLDs from the former Uniregistry. I hope the new owners will manage the TLD well.

The extension is more generic than many new TLDs, and has reasonable renewal rates, both positives."

While this isn't an endorsement Joe, it speaks volumes imo.

There are a lot of generic gtlds. And actually, .link is not as generic as you might think... The term itself speaks to connecting people to information and websites. What about other more commercial uses, like shopping, trades, investment, professional services, etc? How many major corporations - or even mid-to-smaller sized business - will want to build their website around the concept of linking?

If .com isn't available, they're more likely to opt for truly generic alternate extensions, like .net, .org, .co, .io, .xyz, or their relevant ccTLD. And what about other not-yet-popular generic extensions like .one, .onl, .ooo, .gdn, .website, .site, .top? How will .link stand apart from all of them?

Note further that I don't need to convince you, but the "end user" needs to be convinced.

Yes, so I'm wondering how you will convince the end user that .link is worth using.

You quoted someone else, but what do you think?

Unfortunately most of the critics here are bias, but that can me a good thing. What do you think Joe?

I think most of the criticism you receive here is quite constructive. All opinions will be flavored with bias, so your job is to parse out the objectively good advice and use it to constantly improve your investing skills. Don't let bias for your own opinions and ideas cloud your judgment too much.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

There are a lot of generic gtlds. And actually, .link is not as generic as you might think... The term itself speaks to connecting people to information and websites. What about other more commercial uses, like shopping, trades, investment, professional services, etc? How many major corporations - or even mid-to-smaller sized business - will want to build their website around the concept of linking?

If .com isn't available, they're more likely to opt for truly generic alternate extensions, like .net, .org, .co, .io, .xyz, or their relevant ccTLD. And what about other not-yet-popular generic extensions like .one, .onl, .ooo, .gdn, .website, .site, .top? How will .link stand apart from all of them?



Yes, so I'm wondering how you will convince the end user that .link is worth using.

You quoted someone else, but what do you think?



I think most of the criticism you receive here is quite constructive. All opinions will be flavored with bias, so your job is to parse out the objectively good advice and use it to constantly improve your investing skills. Don't let bias for your own opinions and ideas cloud your judgment too much.

Joe...while I'm not 100% sure yet, but I'm planning to develop the Premium Domain Revolution.link where I plan on hosting some Dynamite content. You know, the sort of content I saw when I first clicked on the domain PingPong.gives five years ago and realized how cool the new gTLD's were/are. Beyond that I'll share with you that our friend Swetha of .xyz fame is attempting to sell Revolution.xyz for a paltry $449,888 @Dan now a Go Daddy Brand. And the infamous GD attempted to sell Reservations.online a domain they sold to me for $5, then took it back and attempted to resell it to me for 500K

And yes, i do agree that "most" of the criticism i get here is constructive. Thanks Joe and Ho! Ho! Ho!

 

[ThatNameGuy]

There are a lot of generic gtlds. And actually, .link is not as generic as you might think... The term itself speaks to connecting people to information and websites. What about other more commercial uses, like shopping, trades, investment, professional services, etc? How many major corporations - or even mid-to-smaller sized business - will want to build their website around the concept of linking?

If .com isn't available, they're more likely to opt for truly generic alternate extensions, like .net, .org, .co, .io, .xyz, or their relevant ccTLD. And what about other not-yet-popular generic extensions like .one, .onl, .ooo, .gdn, .website, .site, .top? How will .link stand apart from all of them?



Yes, so I'm wondering how you will convince the end user that .link is worth using.

You quoted someone else, but what do you think?



I think most of the criticism you receive here is quite constructive. All opinions will be flavored with bias, so your job is to parse out the objectively good advice and use it to constantly improve your investing skills. Don't let bias for your own opinions and ideas cloud your judgment too much.

Joe....your words, "The term itself speaks to connecting people to information and websites". By that I'm sure you mean the term/word "link" speaks to connecting people to information and websites." Does "com" speak to that? How about "xyz" or "io" "etc", do they speak to that? You've made my point Joe.....Thanks

 

[Joe N]

Joe....your words, "The term itself speaks to connecting people to information and websites". By that I'm sure you mean the term/word "link" speaks to connecting people to information and websites." Does "com" speak to that? How about "xyz" or "io" "etc", do they speak to that? You've made my point Joe.....Thanks

Yes, that's what I meant, since I said it right after stating that .link is not as generic a term as it might seem. A+ for following along, Rich.

I'll answer your questions about the extensions you mentioned, since it's good info to have. You should already be very familiar with this, though... particularly if your plan is to make .link the go-to alternative to .com. Know your competition, right?

COM is meant for commercial applications (ideal for businesses, obviously).

XYZ explains their goal on their registry's homepage: https://nic.xyz/ (also generic; no real perceived limitations based on the extension).

IO is the ccTLD of the British Indian Ocean Territory, but it's open for all to register and use. It has been adopted primarily by startup tech companies who interpret the extension as an abbreviation of input/output.

Joe...while I'm not 100% sure yet, but I'm planning to develop the Premium Domain Revolution.link where I plan on hosting some Dynamite content.

Looking forward to seeing that. I do enjoy checking out your finished projects. Oh wait....

Anyway, I'm still interested in hearing how you're going to convince end users to adopt .link. Does the plan start and end with your user group?

 

[DrJacoby]

.homes, .realty, .online, and now .link – what extension are you planning to binge buy after giving up this time? Do you have anything planned Rich?

 

[bmugford]

Brad....read my response to Joe. I know you're on Linkedin because it's part of your signature. And I know you're aware that Linkedin has over 850 Million members that can relate to "link" being a keyword according to the infamous Go Daddy. One thing I do know Brad is that ".LINK is no worse than .Horse"....what do you say?

I don't really understand the correlation. LinkedIn has hundreds of millions of users...so?

How are you supposed to monetize them? Advertising is expensive and you have nothing to sell at the moment.

Domains in general are a kind of niche product, never mind .LINK in specific.

I would not expect an advertising campaign to pay for itself, otherwise you would see more new extensions advertised to the general public, and not just highly targeted campaigns largely to people already in the domain field.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Joe...while I'm not 100% sure yet, but I'm planning to develop the Premium Domain Revolution.link where I plan on hosting some Dynamite content. You know, the sort of content I saw when I first clicked on the domain PingPong.gives five years ago and realized how cool the new gTLD's were/are. Beyond that I'll share with you that our friend Swetha of .xyz fame is attempting to sell Revolution.xyz for a paltry $449,888 @Dan now a Go Daddy Brand. And the infamous GD attempted to sell Reservations.online a domain they sold to me for $5, then took it back and attempted to resell it to me for 500K

And yes, i do agree that "most" of the criticism i get here is constructive. Thanks Joe and Ho! Ho! Ho!

I would love to see you actually follow through on one of these projects or development ideas.
Development is hard. It often takes a reason passion to do it.

You have kind of just been spinning your gears for years now with different extensions and ideas.

I wish you luck, but you seem to be perpetually stuck in the ideas stage.

Brad

 

[DealMaker1]

Anyone who is registering these one word domains in lesser extensions might be behooved to study what "wishful thinking" is. Really. Study what that means and you'll see practical reality is different than playing the lottery.

Past results, like with .com, don't guarantee future results, like with .link, .online or whatever. Please don't think because you have registered Candy.link that it is like candy.com and you have hit the jackpot. Doesn't work that way.

There is a five-fold reason Swetha has been generally successful with .xyz: the sheer size of her inventory, the one words, the luck that .xyz caught on somewhat, the marketing of herself as the leader in the
xyz sales field ( therefore higher level connections) and some hard work. This does not happen often.

So really take a look at the trajectory of the extension if you are going all in.

 

[Beezy]

Anyone who is registering these one word domains in lesser extensions might be behooved to study...

In this case it's 2 word domains.

 

[MadAboutDomains]

I would love to see you actually follow through on one of these projects or development ideas.
Development is hard. It often takes a reason passion to do it.

(I'm assuming you mean a real passion.)

But yeah - Preach!!

I'm typing code into my website as we speak. It's a ride... one that I reckon might actually kill me. It is all consuming but a wild ride...

 

[bmugford]

(I'm assuming you mean a real passion.)

Yeah, too late to edit it.

I'm typing code into my website as we speak. It's a ride... one that I reckon might actually kill me. It is all consuming but a wild ride...

I am really only interested in pursuing projects or pursuits which I have a passion for. Otherwise, I find it to be too much of a grind which leads to a lack of motivation.

Still, at some point you have to take that first step. @ThatNameGuy has been talking about partners and development and projects for years now. You have to do something at some point to make it happen.

Brad

 

[MadAboutDomains]

Yeah, too late to edit it.


I am really only interested in pursuing projects or pursuits which I have a passion for. Otherwise, I find it to be too much of a grind which leads to a lack of motivation.

Still, at some point you have to take that first step. @ThatNameGuy has been talking about partners and development and projects for years now. You have to do something at some point to make it happen.

Brad

Absolutely, you have to want to do it. I find it's the main differentiator between me and other people that I meet. I want to build things and other people just want to talk endlessly about their "ideas"...

 

[MadAboutDomains]

@ThatNameGuy has been talking about partners and development and projects for years now. You have to do something at some point to make it happen.

On this point... having a partner is an awful idea as a business plan. I can't think of anything worse . Perhaps that's just my perspective as I'm not a sociable creature, but if you have a vision you should execute on it yourself... too many cooks spoil the broth. Your vision, your decisions, your control.

 

[Joe N]

On this point... having a partner is an awful idea as a business plan. I can't think of anything worse .

Indeed. Why give up your control just to save some money on development and data entry?

@ThatNameGuy - You of all people (with all your previous experience running businesses) should see the value in spending some money to hire a few of the right people to do the technical work you require to get something off the ground.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

On this point... having a partner is an awful idea as a business plan. I can't think of anything worse . Perhaps that's just my perspective as I'm not a sociable creature, but if you have a vision you should execute on it yourself... too many cooks spoil the broth. Your vision, your decisions, your control.

If I hadn't had several successful partnerships I might buy into your bull, but here are two companies that I started with partners in the 80's and 90's that are still in business today; AcSel.org and CreditControl.net

btw, ever hear of the Wright Brothers, how about Hewlett and Packard or even Ben and Jerry's?

I've been married to the same girl for 52 years...how about that partnership MAD That's a pretty strong Marriage.link wouldn't you say.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Indeed. Why give up your control just to save some money on development and data entry?

@ThatNameGuy - You of all people (with all your previous experience running businesses) should see the value in spending some money to hire a few of the right people to do the technical work you require to get something off the ground.

That takes money Joe and you've heard me say my wife has all the money. It didn't use to be that way, but it's a fact. I'm OK with it, and knowing I'm married to a girl who still loves me after 52 years is a damn good feeling

 

[Joe N]

That takes money Joe and you've heard me say my wife has all the money. It didn't use to be that way, but it's a fact. I'm OK with it, and knowing I'm married to a girl who still loves me after 52 years is a damn good feeling

Rich, you just spent over $15K in domain names in the past year...

 

[Joe N]

If I hadn't had several successful partnerships I might buy into your bull, but here are two companies that I started with partners in the 80's and 90's that are still in business today; AcSel.org and CreditControl.net

Out of curiosity... are you always the "idea guy" in your partnerships?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Rich, you just spent over $15K in domain names in the past year...

No I didn't....that's what I said it would cost to renew all my .link domains assuming I renew all of them.

Out of curiosity... are you always the "idea guy" in your partnerships?

Yeah Joe.....i'm always the idea guy. Remember 9Time™? How about DiscoverScotch.com? and to go with it I'm looking to register DiscoverSingleMalt.com....Why? Good ideas never die

 

[ThatNameGuy]

In this case it's 2 word domains.

Glad you're following this thread.....of the 1,500 domains I own approximately 500 of them are one word and the other thousand are two words like JustRight and FirstClass or FullHouse

 

[Joe N]

No I didn't....that's what I said it would cost to renew all my .link domains assuming I renew all of them.

Yeah Joe.....i'm always the idea guy. Remember 9Time™? How about DiscoverScotch.com? and to go with it I'm looking to register DiscoverSingleMalt.com....Why? Good ideas never die

Well, nit-picking aside, however many thousand you spent on .link names could have been spent on some technical help.

I do remember those ideas! I also remembered how they stayed as ideas when you didn't find a partner, which is why I was curious.

But don't despair, Rich! I wrote a Christmas domaining parody that might cheer you up:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/rudolph-the-bad-domainer.1291116/#post-8793545

Happy holidays!