alert The fund can't be withdrawal from Epik.com via Masterbucks wallet

[enamebroker]

It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[Future Sensors]

It'd be great if Elon could do a code review of Epik's "shitty Russian code", as Rob Monster called it. The reviews are positive.

 

[tonyk2000]

Epik + Elon is certainly a novel approach, but -

 

[Chris Hydrick]

There could be another reason why he assisted so many people, a way to get more clients, to build a brand and trust amongst the domainer community mixed with religion, and now that many domainers became Epik's client they used masterbucks.

I think it was obvous a lot of his motivation to help was self-serving, twas hard to hide with all his promotion within, just noting he received an A for effort at times stepping in for domainers when no other outlet seemed available. Re: Assisting with Pheenix domains come to mind. (but also, no better marketing than being the gentleman to help an old lady cross the street) #HeroStatus #WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility

But now people can't withdraw and he has dissapeared. Not because he is NOT the CEO does not mean he can't help. He can help clients with Outlook, but not with their money, that's on "Brian". Rob is the founder of Epik, if I was the founder I would do everything in my power to help people get their money back, just like he helped people back then with domains.

That's the strange part. In the Halloween Domain social some folks claim to still be in contact with Rob Monster. And Rob is still the chairman, so not sure what/if any scapegoating beyond potential chapter 9 would be an accessible remedy for worst case scenarios. Bankruptcy and outstanding judgements is one theory, I find some of the judgments/lawsuits found in this thread interesting, but I can't make much sense of it all, hoping a well written tldr comes out.

Brainstorming Epik has made headlines, and presumably enemies. It doesn't seem to unrealistic for the way the were marketing masterbucks/escrow, that simalarily to how the data breach revealed active federal investigations against epik customers and data was marked do not delete accordingly, it doesn't seem unreasonable that some serious KYC stuff went down, and may epik may be subject themselves, or active informants to existing investigations. It's real easy to get conspiratorial when it comes to epik, and as such hard to fully comprehend where the limits actually are.

Rob is the founder of Epik, if I was the founder I would do everything in my power to help people get their money back, just like he helped people back then with domains. Getting/withdrawing the money is important for clients, receiving the money is important for Rob/Epik.

It would be nice if we could get the record straight on why payouts aren't happening. Is there a legal order relating to the KYC stuff, is it what has been speculated earlier in this thread re: cancelled investors, or any sort of substantial information assuring customers that their domains are still safe at epik, and that payments will resumes as soon as (insert exact reasoning/timeline here).

If push really came to shove, and Rob needed a way out I have to imagine he could either sell equity (in exchange for masterbucks? lol), or spill some fringe domain secrets and sell the movie rights to whatever crazy narrative is occuring behind the scenes at epik. I mean, they are the registrar for Gab, Parler, InfoWars, TexasGOP(Hacked) and many more, along with seemingly blitzing and incubating a hub for online dumpster fires, and amassing fringe customers to hide themselves, or attempt to hide their online idenities and/or misinformation amongst a sea of domainers... I mean... I'm not sure if we'd ever get a straight story but it sure seems there's a netflix worthy story to be told, somewhere in there. The same goes for any registrar really, to include GoDaddy, and specifically wondering what type of subpoena's or investigations domain registrars have been a party to throughout this last few decades of world wide web growth, all the while trying to balance verisign credits, and company growth.

Anyways (sorry for the long posts) I hope I'm not distracting too much away from the current topic. I'm looking forward to reading more from affected customers, and seeing how this all unfolds.

 

[Derek Peterson]

It seems like some of you are actually buying into these ridiculous false claims by Epik, Rob Monster and Brain Royce. Let me simplify this for you.

The problems with escrow funds is because Rob spent your money on operations and apparently, from what I have learned, personal debt and home improvement projects. While I am sure they have some issues with KYC requirements that is NOT the issue. It is simply that Rob doesn't have the money to repay. I showed why that is when I posted all the info insiderS shared with me. Here is it again (below).

Also, regarding the problems with the code and subsequent hack it is not that Rob isn't a coder or hadn't reviewed the code sufficiently but that he LIED about the ownership of the code. Apparently when he bought Epik 10 YEARS AGO, that company was in license agreement with Eastern European company who had built it all. He maintained that relationship and NEVER had control of the code so all those years he was claiming to fully secure, etc etc were all lies. It was a white label like his VPN and hosting and about everything else he has done.

 

[Derek Peterson]

I think it was obvous a lot of his motivation to help was self-serving, twas hard to hide with all his promotion within, just noting he received an A for effort at times stepping in for domainers when no other outlet seemed available. Re: Assisting with Pheenix domains come to mind. (but also, no better marketing than being the gentleman to help an old lady cross the street) #HeroStatus #WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility



That's the strange part. In the Halloween Domain social some folks claim to still be in contact with Rob Monster. And Rob is still the chairman, so not sure what/if any scapegoating beyond potential chapter 9 would be an accessible remedy for worst case scenarios. Bankruptcy and outstanding judgements is one theory, I find some of the judgments/lawsuits found in this thread interesting, but I can't make much sense of it all, hoping a well written tldr comes out.

Brainstorming Epik has made headlines, and presumably enemies. It doesn't seem to unrealistic for the way the were marketing masterbucks/escrow, that simalarily to how the data breach revealed active federal investigations against epik customers and data was marked do not delete accordingly, it doesn't seem unreasonable that some serious KYC stuff went down, and may epik may be subject themselves, or active informants to existing investigations. It's real easy to get conspiratorial when it comes to epik, and as such hard to fully comprehend where the limits actually are.



It would be nice if we could get the record straight on why payouts aren't happening. Is there a legal order relating to the KYC stuff, is it what has been speculated earlier in this thread re: cancelled investors, or any sort of substantial information assuring customers that their domains are still safe at epik, and that payments will resumes as soon as (insert exact reasoning/timeline here).

If push really came to shove, and Rob needed a way out I have to imagine he could either sell equity (in exchange for masterbucks? lol), or spill some fringe domain secrets and sell the movie rights to whatever crazy narrative is occuring behind the scenes at epik. I mean, they are the registrar for Gab, Parler, InfoWars, TexasGOP(Hacked) and many more, along with seemingly blitzing and incubating a hub for online dumpster fires, and amassing fringe customers to hide themselves, or attempt to hide their online idenities and/or misinformation amongst a sea of domainers... I mean... I'm not sure if we'd ever get a straight story but it sure seems there's a netflix worthy story to be told, somewhere in there. The same goes for any registrar really, to include GoDaddy, and specifically wondering what type of subpoena's or investigations domain registrars have been a party to throughout this last few decades of world wide web growth, all the while trying to balance verisign credits, and company growth.

Anyways (sorry for the long posts) I hope I'm not distracting too much away from the current topic. I'm looking forward to reading more from affected customers, and seeing how this all unfolds.

Rob is not paying out because he doesn't have the money. Simple as that. Nothing to do with politics or religion or elections or anything else you are trying to distract with. Those are all part of distraction to face reality that Rob has stolen users' money and used it as his own. Royce admitted that the funds were comingled and that the accounting is joke, others here have posted that Rob intentionally and knowingly laundered money through masterbucks, others revealed that he has been comingling for many years and running on empty the whole time. I posted the insider info drops on what happened with their "investment" that got pulled and how Rob may still face fraud charges for that.

 

[Digital Nomad]

It seems like some of you are actually buying into these ridiculous false claims by Epik, Rob Monster and Brain Royce. Let me simplify this for you.

The problems with escrow funds is because Rob spent your money on operations and apparently, from what I have learned, personal debt and home improvement projects. While I am sure they have some issues with KYC requirements that is NOT the issue. It is simply that Rob doesn't have the money to repay. I showed why that is when I posted all the info insiderS shared with me. Here is it again (below).

Also, regarding the problems with the code and subsequent hack it is not that Rob isn't a coder or hadn't reviewed the code sufficiently but that he LIED about the ownership of the code. Apparently when he bought Epik 10 YEARS AGO, that company was in license agreement with Eastern European company who had built it all. He maintained that relationship and NEVER had control of the code so all those years he was claiming to fully secure, etc etc were all lies. It was a white label like his VPN and hosting and about everything else he has done.

If you have this insider information etc. and can prove it, then you and the insiders please report it to the FBI or whomever can really help. I know you can't share everything here, but report it if true with evidence. You can also share your insider information with @stevanzetti https://twitter.com/stevanzetti

 

[Chris Hydrick]

I posted the insider info drops on what happened with their "investment" that got pulled and how Rob may still face fraud charges for that.

If you have this insider information etc. and can prove it, then please report it to the FBI or whomever can really help. I know you can't share everything here, but report it.

I obviously can't verify @Derek Peterson information, and not that focus is a metric for accuracy, but he seems to be consistently focused on epik affairs, even appearing to do the extra leg work and communicate with folks via DM or otherwise who don't wish to say certain things publicly. Obviously harder to verify hidden information behind a source, still noting Derek does seem to be putting in some investigative legwork here.

After being away from nP for the better part of the year, I can appreciate Dereks seemingly more developed and more level-headed way of addressing the community. (not sure if Im missing any deleted posts), but thank you Derek for seemingly staying focused and for toning down your content into more digestable language. ((I hope I didn't speak too soon))

 

[Derek Peterson]

If you have this insider information etc. and can prove it, then you and the insiders please report it to the FBI or whomever can really help. I know you can't share everything here, but report it if true. You can also share your insider information with @stevanzetti https://twitter.com/stevanzetti

What are you talking about? He didn't defraud me and I don't know specifically what his fraudulent claims were. That investment company apparently could have but instead agreed to settle. I have no idea of their motivations or what all happened in those discussions. Of course I hope that company does eventually go after Monster but none of that really concerns any of us accept for the fact that Monster has stolen, maybe millions in escrow funds and used them as his own. That info simply shows this whole escrow fiasco is all about money.

 

[Digital Nomad]

What are you talking about? He didn't defraud me and I don't know specifically what his fraudulent claims were. That investment company apparently could have but instead agreed to settle. I have no idea of their motivations or what all happened in those discussions. Of course I hope that company does eventually go after Monster but none of that really concerns any of us accept for the fact that Monster has stolen, maybe millions in escrow funds and used them as his own. That info simply shows this whole escrow fiasco is all about money.

What are you talking about? I have no idea what your insider info is if you hide it from us! EVIDENCE bro. You can say whatever you want, but if you can't provide evidence, what's the use of that!

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Dishonest and sneaky? Are you for real? I never said that I "removed all connections" because that makes little sense. What I said was that I resigned from the Board. But since you mentioned that I'm "still invested", allow me to explain how start-up investing works: When an angel investor purchases equity in a start-up (as I did with Epik about TEN YEARS AGO), they can not extract their investment until one of several things happen 1. The company is acquired 2. The company goes public 3. The company or a third party offers to acquire said shares (if transferable). Since Epik has not been acquired nor gone public, that leaves only the possibility of Epik or a third party acquiring my shares. No one has made any such offers. So, like with all my other angel investments, I have no choice but to continue holding my shares.
Does that clear things up?

I was also under the impression you completely washed your hands clean from epik.

You always have a choice, but whether or not that choice is in your best interest, well I guess that depends on your financial situation, and how important your epik equity is to you.

(a) Cut your losses, and give your shares back to Rob.
(b) Donate (sell for $1) your shares to the SPLC or whichever organization you see fit.
(c) Wait for your angel investment to pay an expected dividend, and remain an investor of epik.

Clearly, you are choosing (c) to remain an investor in epik.

It's a little sneaky/dishonest to try and hide that fact while attempting to appease the outside perception by saying you relinquished your board seat but remain invested in the company. Angel investor or not, you always have a choice. #EpiklyBlind

 

[Derek Peterson]

What are you talking about? I have no idea what your insider info is if you hide it from us! EVIDENCE bro. You can say whatever you want, but if you can't provide evidence, what's the use of that!

Most of those points have already been admitted my Monster and Royce and the ones that haven't been are called "testimony" and it came from several sources that I trust and which I will not name. That is evidence and is admissible in a court room. What do you want a recording of the discussions? That is literally how journalism works.

Also, Monster is a small company that employs a full time attorney, he is a very litigious guy, as most grifters are, and rob has threatened to sue me many times and worse. If I wasn't confident it was true I would not post it.

 

[Digital Nomad]

and it came from several sources that I trust and which I will not name

Why not?

 

[Derek Peterson]

Why not?

Ugh. If you don't understand the concept of "confidential sources" and why it is important and how that works, at least in US, please go do some research and keep that education out of this thread. Thanks.

 

[Digital Nomad]

Ugh. If you don't understand the concept of "confidential sources" and why it is important and how that works, at least in US, please go do some research and keep that education out of this thread. Thanks.

I can also say that Mr. X has done this and that, I know from insider information and I can't tell you who told me, because Mr. X can sue me or do worse or whatever, but yet I will still tell you on a public forum what they told me.

It does not provide credibility, anyways man, keep digging.

 

[Lox]

some serious

one at a time __x__authority__y__ investigation (whoi$ track & trace) and/or hunting down a serious $ trafficking over a number of years ...

(E was too soft with KYC - detection)

motivation to help

My 1# CEO @ NP
... dotBEST CEO had a great ( hit & $-run marketing ) time on NP & he didn't give a damn about how much money (bread) you lose by investing in .best

Regards

 

[Charlice]

And who have this Brian Royce email? I've tried finding it but can't get hold of it. I'll like to message him as I've messaged all the top people I know in epik including Bill (who dissociated himself from epik).

I've published my experience on my blog and will start posting on all the big platforms I know where epik escrow is used. Maybe I should start with trustpilot...

Edited.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

And who have this Bryan Royce email? I've tried finding it but can't get hold of it.

Brian with an i, not y ... ✓

B.Royce @ Epik.com & BrianRoyce @ Epik.com seem to be valid epik emails

Good luck!

Perhaps you'll get a more favorable response (and instant payout) if you change your email name to Elon Musk, and subject Re: X needs Epik help! (albeit this might also raise red flags with the payout if your payment name doesnt match musk)

 

[.X.]

Rob is not paying out because he doesn't have the money. Simple as that. Nothing to do with politics or religion or elections or anything else you are trying to distract with. Those are all part of distraction to face reality that Rob has stolen users' money and used it as his own. Royce admitted that the funds were comingled and that the accounting is joke, others here have posted that Rob intentionally and knowingly laundered money through masterbucks, others revealed that he has been comingling for many years and running on empty the whole time. I posted the insider info drops on what happened with their "investment" that got pulled and how Rob may still face fraud charges for that.

I get my monthly payment every month for a domain name that was purchased on payment plan , like clock work every month.

 

[Future Sensors]

I see the new CEO (@BrianMRoyce? with only 75 followers, and not much if any epik related tweets) is hard at work soliciting Elon Musk

Brian is obviously not aware of this thread on NamePros.

 

[Future Sensors]

I get my monthly payment every month for a domain name that was purchased on payment plan , like clock work every month.

Is that a payment to your Masterbucks account, or to an external account?

 

[.X.]

Is that a payment to your Masterbucks account, or to an external account?

Masterbucks , then I push it on to the bank from masterbucks , no problems and no delays

 

[Derek Peterson]

I get my monthly payment every month for a domain name that was purchased on payment plan , like clock work every month.

How much is your monthly payment and when did you get your last payment?

 

[Igor Gabrielan]

If this insider information about Monster's antics is true, what strategy should the victims have?

 

[.X.]

How much is your monthly payment and when did you get your last payment?

$185.60 , I get it on the 18th of every month

 

[.X.]

It’s the only domain I have with Epik , I bought it off the auction thing , I sold it on the payment plan 7 months ago .