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It happened on 23rd Aug 2022 and this matter lasted almost one month without any process. Masterbucks.com declined my fund withdrawal and disabled the button of fund withdrawal. And I contacted Epik.com and got no further action even if Rob Monster got involved in it for two weeks. All the time I was told in email by management review.

What is wrong with Epik.com? Do you think it is normal to disable fund withdrawal? How can I get back my fund from Epik.com? Thanks for your suggestion.

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Epik, Inc.
206-826-2345
[email protected]
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Epik: MB Cashout
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Sent by Epik, Inc.
$221.41
Fee
-$10.04
Thank you. How does this compare to earlier payouts that you (or others) know of?
 
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Of course they are, need more people to fill up the bank for the ponzi scheme.
Lawyers shouldn’t be beaking off like this on a ******* forum. How many other social media platforms you talking to much on?
Has the ponzi scheme been proven in a court of law? Please provide reference
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Contact info
Epik, Inc.
206-826-2345
[email protected]
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Epik: MB Cashout
Details
Sent by Epik, Inc.
$221.41
Fee
-$10.04
So what does the new Wyoming based Masterbucks LLC have to do with anything?

The new TOS and fees that were imposed are related to this new company, yet payments are still coming from Epik.

Everyone knows Masterbucks is an Epik company.

Maybe they realized that creating a new LLC does not magically absolve a company of existing debts.

Brad
 
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So what does the new Wyoming based Masterbucks LLC have to do with anything?

The new TOS and fees that were imposed are related to this new company, yet payments are still coming from Epik.

Everyone knows Masterbucks is an Epik company.

Maybe they realized that creating a new LLC does not magically absolve a company of existing debts.

Brad
No but it probably makes it harder to collect and probably have different bankruptcy laws. Also, Monster is a fool if that is what he is doing, it will used as evidence against him in future.
 
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It is tricky for Epik to cash out to customers with a small amount.
 
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Lawyers shouldn’t be beaking off like this on a ******* forum. How many other social media platforms you talking to much on?
Has the ponzi scheme been proven in a court of law? Please provide reference
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Non lawyers, especially ones that can't spell, shouldn't be telling lawyers what they should and shouldn't say.
 
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Lawyers shouldn’t be beaking off like this on a ******* forum. How many other social media platforms you talking to much on?
Has the ponzi scheme been proven in a court of law? Please provide reference

A couple of points.

First, Mr. Wallace does not appear to be a lawyer. He appears to be the principal of a debt collection agency. Whether the services of a debt collection agency are relevant to the way Masterbucks was run is another topic.

But, more importantly, lawyers have as much right as anyone else to comment on whatever they'd like. Obviously, lawyers have a duty to keep their client's confidential information confidential, etc., but there's not some kind of "everyone is entitled to express an opinion except for lawyers" in the First Amendment.

Which brings us to the third point. Anyone is entitled to express their opinion that a law has or has not been broken by someone. The notion of "presumed innocent until proven guilty" is a procedural rule for the way that trials are conducted. It simply means that the prosecution has the burden, in a court proceeding, to prove guilt to the jury.

"Presumed innocent until proven guilty" is not some rule of life in general. Good golly, if you were mugged on the street by a guy pointing a gun in your face, you are not required to go to a cop and say "Some innocent guy allegedly just mugged me." You are entitled to have your opinion and to express your opinion as to the criminal guilt or innocence of anyone you'd like. If it were otherwise, then nobody would be able to report a crime they witnessed to the police. If you see Bob Smith go into a bank and rob it, you can certainly tell anyone you like "I just saw Bob Smith rob a bank".

If there was some kind of general "everyone has to consider everyone innocent until proven guilty in court" rule, then NOBODY would ever BE found guilty in a court. Heck, the prosecutor walks into the court with the JOB of saying "that guy is guilty" right at the very beginning of the trial. If it is a robbery trial, there is probably going to be a witness saying "that guy robbed me." There is nothing that prevents anyone from opining that someone else may have done something illegal.

The present situation with Epik certainly looks, smells, and acts like a Ponzi. They have been allegedly conducting an escrow and money transmitting business under which they have purported to have been holding the proceeds of customer transactions as "Masterbucks". It is plainly obvious that they are not paying out the balances of these proceeds to their customers, and they have given conflicting reasons why. They have, however, dribbled out some minor balances and paid some squeaky wheels in an attempt to tamp down the noise somewhat, but it is plainly obvious there are customers with substantial balances who simply are not being paid. Their own CEO admits that customer funds and operating funds have been commingled.

Those facts are not in dispute. Those facts are consistent with the operation of a classic Ponzi scheme. If they do not have the money to pay their customer's balances - and surely they would pay them if they could - and that money was commingled with operating funds, then it is certainly a reasonable conclusion that they are simply hoping to be able to pay those balances out of future operating proceedings. Anyone is entitled to reach that conclusion and express that opinion if they would like to do so.

It is also not "defamatory" to express that opinion. Again, the admitted facts of the situation is that Epik is refusing to pay their customers what is easily in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in funds which, until now, Epik purported to be holding on behalf of their customers. They have apparently been refusing to do that since August. Against that admitted factual background, someone expressing the opinion that it is a Ponzi scheme is not capable of doing some measurable additional quantum of damage to the reputation that Epik has shredded and cratered by their own admitted actions.

Here's a hot tip for you. That guy in Wisconsin who mowed down all of those people in a Christmas parade and killed six of them, was found guilty yesterday. I know this may be hard for you to believe, but I was pretty certain he had done those things, even before he was pronounced guilty by a court.

So, whether or not Mr. Wallace is a lawyer, he is certainly entitled to express his opinion of the subject, just as you are entitled to express your opinion that locking people out of getting their own money to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars for two months and then giving conflicting reasons for it, is just a fine way of conducting a reputable business.
 
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Today I received two emails from different Epic employees. One employee writes that I will not receive money this week, and I have to wait longer. And the second employee writes: "Due to the recent context of your communication with Epik Customer Support, we kindly request that you email [email protected] if you wish to discuss legal moving forward."
Obviously, this is because I wrote in support that I want to complain about Epik to the FBI and sue them. But I don't understand this answer. What can I write to [email protected]?
 
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Has this been resolved? I've never had issues withdrawing my Epik/NameLiquidate funds via Masterbucks....
 
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Today I received two emails from different Epic employees. One employee writes that I will not receive money this week, and I have to wait longer. And the second employee writes: "Due to the recent context of your communication with Epik Customer Support, we kindly request that you email [email protected] if you wish to discuss legal moving forward."
Obviously, this is because I wrote in support that I want to complain about Epik to the FBI and sue them. But I don't understand this answer. What can I write to [email protected]?
Well, their legal counsel left a few months ago according to his LinkedIn profile. I wonder who would want to replace him.
 
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Today I received two emails from different Epic employees. One employee writes that I will not receive money this week, and I have to wait longer. And the second employee writes: "Due to the recent context of your communication with Epik Customer Support, we kindly request that you email [email protected] if you wish to discuss legal moving forward."
Obviously, this is because I wrote in support that I want to complain about Epik to the FBI and sue them. But I don't understand this answer. What can I write to [email protected]?
Don't worry...according to Tony @ Epik you will be paid. That is a fact!
Who knows when though.


When you are paid, that is a fact. Now it is actually just a promise.

That promise comes from parties that froze your funds, have gone radio silent, and have not been straightforward about what is actually going on AKA a promise I would not put much, if any, faith in.

At least Brian was straightforward about the "escrow" funds being commingled.

Brad
 
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Today I received two emails from different Epic employees. One employee writes that I will not receive money this week, and I have to wait longer. And the second employee writes: "Due to the recent context of your communication with Epik Customer Support, we kindly request that you email [email protected] if you wish to discuss legal moving forward."
Obviously, this is because I wrote in support that I want to complain about Epik to the FBI and sue them. But I don't understand this answer. What can I write to [email protected]?
You should reach out to these guys and keep moving forward with FBI.
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Should I write something like this, citizens, will you give the money voluntarily or should I complain about you to the FBI and go to court? But the legal worker still can not resolve the issue with the payment. On the contrary, it will probably be good for him to sue and fight off the FBI in order to justify his salary.
 
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But I don't understand this answer. What can I write to [email protected]?
Well, since they explicitly asked for such a contact. Imo, your best bet would be finding US-based lawyer from the WA state and let him contact legal @ epik on your behalf. First, lawyers know better how to deal with such things. Second, you are not located in US. Third, English is not your native language...
 
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I studied German, but I have already forgotten that too.
To my shame, when I registered the names, I thought the word was spelled "robotiks".
True, then I still registered the correct names robot.ai and robotics.ai and sold them.
 
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Epik is even being called out on their own forum now.

I have to say the analogies here are pretty good.
The point being, that reputable businesses don't do this type of thing.

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First, Mr. Wallace does not appear to be a lawyer. He appears to be the principal of a debt collection agency. Whether the services of a debt collection agency are relevant to the way Masterbucks was run is another topic.
An interesting question. John, can you share your opinion on this please? In particular, are victims - natural persons in the same position as victims - legal entities? I'm asking because for example consumer protection laws tend to protect natural persons, not legal entities...
 
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I don't understand what is the fuss about. As Tony eloquently put it, "it doesn't change the fact you will be paid". So why to worry? You got to pay utility bills? Call your electricity company, water/sewage company, your landlord and tell them that you will eventually pay their bills, so they don't have to disconnect you or charge you penalties. Walk into any grocery store, pick up the food you need, and give them the promissory note with the now-immortal-words-of-Tony.
 
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Don't worry...according to Tony @ Epik you will be paid. That is a fact!
Indeed! However, would Tony place a bet on it? Ok, gambling is no more legal is US, so would Tony and other Epik employees donate their October salaries to victims in need, in the meantime? Since all would be paid, it should be a safe thing to do...
 
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Indeed! However, would Tony place a bet on it? Ok, gambling is no more legal is US, so would Tony and other Epik employees donate their October salaries to victims in need, in the meantime? Since all would be paid, it should be a safe thing to do...

I bet their salaries are not being paid in Masterbucks.

The lack of empathy from the people at Epik is startling.

Brian Royce said he’s comfortable with Epik providing services to controversial groups. “We’re not far right; we’re far everything,” he said. He said the company would work with Antifa or the late Larry Flynt, for example. Generally speaking, he draws his line at people taking from others or hurting them.

What do you think you are doing now?

Brad
 
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The "escrow" service actually turns out to be commingled funds.

The "free speech" champions flagged negative reviews and contacted people behind the scenes about their negative reviews.

The "don't hurt others" people are actually hurting other people with their actions.

Their "legendary" customer support has disappeared.

Is anything Epik does even reality based? I just see a bunch of false promises and hypocrisy.

Brad
 
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"Unified commerce company" run by mr. Royce was mentioned yesterday. As a curiosity, I tried to check what is it. Did not find anything meaningful so far, except the following reddit post -

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The "escrow" service actually turns out to be commingled funds.

The "free speech" champions flagged negative reviews and contacted people behind the scenes about their negative reviews.

The "don't hurt others" people are actually hurting other people with their actions.

Their "legendary" customer support has disappeared.

Is anything Epik does even reality based? I just see a bunch of hypocrisy.

Brad
And the most "secure company" or whatever they used to promote, actually had your passwords, credit cards not so secure at all.
 
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And the most "secure company" or whatever they used to promote, actually had your passwords, credit cards not so secure at all.

Matthew 7:1
Do not judge lest you be judged

At the end of the day, these guys are trying to put food on the table.

The security was handled by the adequate amount of prayers, as documented. It just did not work out.
 
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