BODIS

[matt_bodis]

Bodis.com

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Former topic:

• The New REVOLUTION in Domain Parking is HERE! - Bodis.com

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I prefer that my domains will be not blacklisted by SURBL, Spamhaus etc. and later blocked by Afilias, Radix etc.
Regarding revenue - it is significantly lower on Bodis VS ParkingCrew where this MX is disabled for years.

 

[tonyk2000]

I'd prefer to enable or disable the option per domain or per account.
Also, is bodis able to calculate the related revshare on per domain basis? Maybe you simply use "best guess", distributing revenue between all accounts / domains?

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Few my Bodis domains were blacklisted even by Google...
They were always OK/Tier1 previously.

 

[tonyk2000]

The problem with cname forwarding is that naked domain records are not supposed to use cnames. On the other hand, IPs can be changed anytime. So, the only technically correct way for the customer to eliminate mx monetization would be:
1) set some ww1 subdomain as cname
2) set registrar based domain forwarding of both www and naked domain to ww1 subdomain
3) optionally, set * subdomains to be also forwarded to that ww1 [not too practical, since it is would mostly deliver the bot traffic checking "forum" and similar subdomains]. Sometimes, if there was previously real website on a subdomain, it will work

@matt_bodis do you agree that the above is not easy to manage for large portfolios / different registrars?

Edited: Registrars are now starting (slowly) to add https forwarding. Since bodis and other parking companies are all http not https, there may be issues (browser warnings) if the visitor is trying to reach httpS ;// www. , but it is forwarded to non-secure http : // ww1 . So, the forwarding thing is something that should be used carefully (if at all).

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

There is ALIAS type record... similar to CNAME but it can be set on root/@ to forward A lookup...
But not all registrars support it, just some of them.

 

[matt_bodis]

@Jurgen Wolf regarding CNAME, it is OK to set to IP. Set to IP: 199.59.242.150

We will try our best to maintain this IP for all future use for parking.

As far as revenue per user account/domain, yes we'll be able to do that but I believe we'll keep it to user account entirely. Just not a focus right now. Right now we're focusing on optimizing revenue, performance, and features. Not so much fine tuning something like MX records. We will get to it. Actually, we are closer to it than ever before but still not a "priority".

 

[tonyk2000]

We will do the MX change, the issue Jurgen is we have a lot of other features we're working on. What do you prefer, 2X revenue or the ability to remove a revenue-generating feature? Most users want advancements. But I fully understand, it is in the plans!

https://www.bodis.com/blog/new-announcements-in-time-for-namescon-online

Please keep up the good work I just read the above post (newsletter). SSL - https support was mentioned just couple of posts before, in another context. Now you promised it . A good sign!

Finally, there would be an opportunity to stop wasting expired https traffic - this will increase revenues.

@matt_bodis - I guess that ssl certs would be used via dns authorizations? If so, how about externally hosted DNS (which would be the case with cname parking you recommended to avoid mx monetization)?
Also, there are parking managers like abovecom and/or similar in-house solutions, where only part of a traffic is delivered to each supported parking company. Again, dns would be external. So, bodis needs to somehow cover these cases as well (for ssl purposes). What are the current plans? I mean from technical point of view

 

[alcy]

@matt_bodis
This looks exciting.. a lot of new changes ....can you talk a bit about them here please ...like your union with Dan. Com ...etc...ty

 

[matt_bodis]

Thank you all for kind words. We very much look forward to rolling these enhancements out.

The DAN partnership will work as follows: At first, it will work via DAN where a user can point names to DAN and then opt into monetization. The user has to have an account at Bodis and would input their Bodis user ID in the DAN settings. All of this would be explained and provided to every user of both platforms in the next 1-2 weeks time frame. There will be a formal announcement again and a very in depth instructional video to go along with it. It is actually quite simple, but the user must have accounts at DAN and at BODIS. After that, all is taken care of by the system. In phase 2, the same would be possible from within BODIS where you can point names to BODIS and just opt for the hybrid lander with DAN.

SSL certs - we've made sure to go live with the DAN implementation with full SSL support. We'll be also expanding this to all Bodis domains. It actually will be via TCP and not DNS. However, we have the capability to make that change if we decided to. Yes we would cover Above and any other parking managers as well btw. So it will extend beyond DNS. Case in point - we do that with kfx.com which is actually pointed to DAN DNS.

The other update is Ads.com. Baby steps but the end result is to offer real advertisers and real quality ads on faillisted names. Both in PPC format and ZC format.

This is one of the reasons we haven't focused on the MX thing yet because we're just too busy with big picture ideas such as these. But the MX opt out is still on radar. Lots of has asked about it.

 

[tonyk2000]

Case in point - we do that with kfx.com which is actually pointed to DAN DNS.

Well done. I like this lander. Especially the fact that with adblock detected it forwards to pure forsale page. Which is what it should be. And which is not the case with current common bodis parking (where empty page is shown, as was discussed in this thread some time ago).

 

[blogspotter]

The other update is Ads.com. Baby steps but the end result is to offer real advertisers and real quality ads on faillisted names. Both in PPC format and ZC format.

I don't get this. Aren't fail listed names the ones that get rejected by Bodis for past scam associations?
If you won't allow them on Bodis, why create a separate platform for those?
Are there a substantial amount of traffic?

Why not go premium ad network like Adthrive, casale, Tribal fusion etc for the new age net users?
Ad networks haven't updated much. You have a great domain and I am sure the resources too.

Look at media.net They had a great payday despite all the issues. There is room for innovators in the ad networks and there will always be market for a better network

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I don't get this. Aren't fail listed names the ones that get rejected by Bodis for past scam associations?
If you won't allow them on Bodis, why create a separate platform for those?

No, we are talking about the domains faillisted by Google.
So their monetization via default (Tier1) feed is impossible.

 

[matt_bodis]

@tonyk2000 that is because the Dan implementation is entirely on new tech/infrastructure and redeveloped backend for parking. That backend is also coming to all domains on Bodis within next few weeks. There's just too many things for us to announce so we're not even announcing these things. But long story short, also expect new sales landers from Bodis and increased revenues.

@blogspotter We will be focusing on quality only. No room for spam. As a matter of fact, a big move we'll make is to force out some of the lower quality tier2 ad networks that we currently partner with since they can't ever get spam under control. One of the major motivation factors/goals for Ads.com. They will be forced into going thru Ads.com and there we will be approving each ad individually or else they won't have access to any Bodis domains.

 

[blogspotter]

@tonyk2000 that is because the Dan implementation is entirely on new tech/infrastructure and redeveloped backend for parking. That backend is also coming to all domains on Bodis within next few weeks. There's just too many things for us to announce so we're not even announcing these things. But long story short, also expect new sales landers from Bodis and increased revenues.

@blogspotter We will be focusing on quality only. No room for spam. As a matter of fact, a big move we'll make is to force out some of the lower quality tier2 ad networks that we currently partner with since they can't ever get spam under control. One of the major motivation factors/goals for Ads.com. They will be forced into going thru Ads.com and there we will be approving each ad individually or else they won't have access to any Bodis domains.

Awesome...

 

[alcy]

Well done. I like this lander. Especially the fact that with adblock detected it forwards to pure forsale page. Which is what it should be. And which is not the case with current common bodis parking (where empty page is shown, as was discussed in this thread some time ago).

U already use it? How did u set it..i do not see any new dan related options yet

 

[tonyk2000]

One of the major motivation factors/goals for Ads.com. They will be forced into going thru Ads.com and there we will be approving each ad individually or else they won't have access to any Bodis domains.

So. someday... not tomorrow... Bodis may be able to drop G then. We all will celebrate it

In the meantime, an opportunity to easily switch non-faillisted domains between tier1 (G) and tier2 (with or without ads.com) would be appreciated. Current scheme (2 bodis accounts) is neither logical nor practical.

 

[tonyk2000]

U already use it? How did u set it..i do not see any new dan related options yet

kfx dot com is an example shown by Matt. Not my domain, unsure who owns it. But it works OK!

 

[TroyBodis]

Hello @alcy,

This option isn't available yet, but we are expecting to see it launched within the next couple of weeks. If you already have a Dan.com account you will be updated.

Thanks.

U already use it? How did u set it..i do not see any new dan related options yet

 

[tonyk2000]

@matt_bodis - a small suggestion. OK, it appears that we all agree that mx monetization, being too dangerous, should be disabled in many cases. At least I would definitely disable it for anything I consider as valuable, and let it remain active only for example on not-2-renew domains with liquidation prices (if for sale at all).

Now, the suggestion. Why not to do the following (non-commercial), available for any party to use - run a mailserver called lets say "blackhole.bodis.com" which would be always online AND would always reject any and all incoming emails? First, it would make sense to use it as 1 and only mx with bodis parked domains where mx monetization is disabled. This way, you'll eliminate constant attempts to deliver mails to bodis parking IP (which would happen if no mx records are shown in dns), and so you'll save some server resources (firewalls etc). Second, you may announce it as a public service. If I run a small personal website lets say tony dot something (made up example), where no mails are condigured or expected - I will then add blackhole.bodis.com as mx record of my personal domain. Simple and elegant solution.

As a side note, please also add "v=spf1 -all" spf record to dns of domains with disabled mx monetization. By doing this, you'll prevent email spoofing. This record means that the domain does not send emails...

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

The oldschool solution is to set localhost. (with trailing dot) as MX.

 

[tonyk2000]

The oldschool solution is to set localhost. (with trailing dot) as MX.

Yeah, it will work. 127.0.0.1 Or, I've seen mx records pointing to non-existing gtlds.
Actually, there were UDRP cases where the respondents were accused of receiving emails intended to complainants. The best way to show that the responded is innocent would be to include examples of bounced emails "no such user here", which would require an operational mailserver to exist and to generate such an error.

 

[matt_bodis]

I think we need to hire a dozen more engineers.

 

[domaineed]

Any plans to include DAN for BUYNOW landers, as it is with Escrow BUYNOW landers? The simple layout and "how it works" makes it the best landing page out there, imo.

 

[TroyBodis]

Hi @domaineed,

Yes, as I understand it we will also be including Escrow/Buy Now hybrid landers in this update too.

Also, we will be updating our own sale landers shortly, with the aim to simplify the process for potential buyers.

Thanks.

Any plans to include DAN for BUYNOW landers, as it is with Escrow BUYNOW landers? The simple layout and "how it works" makes it the best landing page out there, imo.

 

[domaineed]

Escrow/Buy Now hybrid landers in this update too

Hello,

Sorry if I misunderstood, but Escrow/BuyNow landers already exist. Do you mean to say Dan/BuyNow landers?

Thanks.