question Ever insulted a potential buyer? I plan to! Lol

[WhoaDomain.com]

I have been putting off contacting the CEO of a huge company that generates $2 billion a year in revenue.

The domain in question I rather not say.

But as always I am shooting for the moon. 6 figures.

I was going to go the usual typical pitch.

but based on their offers I'm losing my cool.

Backstory.

The CEO and his company owns multiple companies. Of which my domain? is an EMD for an offshoot product for one of them.

That generates $30 million yearly consistently

I have been hesitating contacting the CEO because I'm scared of what I'm about to do.

he bought this "failing" company back in 2004.

How will I insult him?

I will explain to him all the mistakes his employees made as far as my .com is concerned.

These mistakes even happened years before he purchased the company back in 2004.

here's a list of the mistakes.

1. Company has a great brand. been around since 1967. Their .com is a single word. So they did a good job there. Then they registered other domains for brand protection strategy.

Think Kentucky+FriedChicken.com

First mistake?

They did not register "FriedChicken.com" and or "Chicken.com" and even though they didn't? they made the second mistake and did not try to buy it while it was cheap back in 1998 mind you they have been in business since 1967.

2. Enter their competitor. let's call them Popeye's.

Popeye's came in at 1997 while KFC started in 1967.

So KFC was around 30 years before Popeye's. so much opportunity. Missed.

3. So now Popeye's purchased Chicken.com and FriedChicken.com and is kicking their ass as far as online is concerned.

so what's left? as far as domain registration how "close" can you get to "FriedChicken.com" or "Chicken.com"? I say....

EChicken.com
EFriedChicken.com
IFriedChicken.com
IChicken.com

well you get the idea.

4. next mistake? His "team" got into a room and decided to go with a new brand launch and called it.

EChicken and advertising it all over the net via press releases. WITHOUT REGISTERING the .com or even trying to purchase it from me first before putting it out there.

When does the "insult" come in?

I was gonna tell him. I've checked the salaries of his employees.

some are $100K+ up to $350K +

I assume these are smart people to have such big salaries.

So since 1967 how much salaries were paid? millions!

yet no one thought to register the perfect URL shortener for their brand? plus a domain that allows them to "sit" on the best keyword like "Chicken"?

My domain is basically the "next best thing" as owning Chicken.com and FriedChicken.com

I'll tell him I decided to contact him directly because all these employees offering me just $5000 are just people trying to save face and not look like a bunch of idiots.

"So you guys went with EChicken but did not register EChicken.com and did not try to buy it first before letting the cat out the bag?"

They F***Ked up. Plain and simple.

Not my fault.

my domain? was never registered till about few years ago.

All this time. 30 years, no one thought to just reg this domain for "the heck of it".

now I have it and they offer just $5,000 to make this embarrassing problem go away?

I'll tell him.

"Under Who's WATCH was domain.com supposed to be registered?"
Who dropped the ball on this?
And what is their current salary? All of them in Total?

I don't work for your company
I don't make $150K a year. or $350K a year. But I did something useful for your company. Something that will promote your $30 million generating business.

You tell me. Who is the best person to promote your EChicken $30 million dollar a year generating business?

20 sales managers earning $150K a year? or a Schmuck who registered EChicken.com and can email anyone around the world with a brochure of your product via email in seconds? for free? using something like

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

I have worked for large companies and have manage large teams.

All I ever see are people doing the "bare minimum" for what they get a pay check for.

Just enough to get by but never "above and beyond" the call of duty.

When you hire people. You are putting business in the hands of Total Strangers.

They only care about their check. They never look out for your "best interest at heart".

They could care less that you are #2 and Popeye's is 1#.

To them that is "Good enough" and then collect their check.

They never think of registering EChicken.com or try to buy it for cheap before announcing to the world the new "EChicken" brand to save the Boss money.

Yet my dumbass registered a domain that is the perfect web address for your $30 million dollar generating business.

How dumb is that? To get a bunch of $150K- $350K earning a year people in a meeting and they come up with a new brand and "went with it" without securing the EMD .com first?

next mistake? They contact me using THEIR REAL NAME not broker. Easy enough to Google them and check Linkedin and find them.

I wish I could say the web address they are using because they can't own my domain. lol

soooooo idiotic.

They are already hashtagging the EMD for my domain.

I would then say "How stupid are your employees?"

and they are still rolling out with Press Releases mentioning my domain's EMD Keywords.

dumb dumb dumb.

Meanwhile I decided to renew the domain for several years. So I'll just wait.

so would you ever insult your potential buyer?

lol

Why am I hesistating? I might just piss off the CEO they won't buy or come after me via UDRP.


Fyi. in case yall didn't figure it out. The companies and .com's mentioned here are NOT my domains or the buyer..

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

That is a nice opportunity . But the question is-
Do they have a TM for that e+key word?

Do they really depend on online/domain things?

Sometimes big company's high salary academian employees make big mistakes or simply overlook simple things that may cost a lot.

Will you mention the type or sector of the company?

Sorry rather not say. Too many detectives on here.

Just in case I make a sale and maybe they request an NDA. that's if it ever gets that far.

And no TM. In fact I believe they haven't TM yet because I regged my domain first.

But anything is possible. They could still TM.

 

[gilescoley]

Thanks buddy. Appreciate it. I probably did not make it clear. They contacted me. Never contacted them. They used a broker via afternic. But the idiot created a username to match their "actual name" lol. I never even knew this company was an option to try and sell to. Just regged it on a hunch. Seeing as how there is so much competition for the keywords. Plus I liked it. And could make it into an affiliate site if anything

Ok, so besides the part where I said you approached them, everything else I said is still valid. Still be polite and professional at all times. Judging from what you said about the name, I'd take the offer they have made, this wont be a 6 figure sale.

 

[branding]

At the car dealership:

Me: nice car, how much do you want for it?
Dealer: 200K. It's way better than that piece of shit you're driving right now. Did your wife make you buy that? What were you thinking! You dropped the ball. She must not love you at all wanting you to drive that pathetic looking car. Oh it's a business car? What sucker advised you on that? Fire them all, they take advantage of you. They don't know shit. You should've come to me. I'm the sales God and am here to judge all your decisions, which have been crap btw. Now go buy this car.
Me: ... punching him in the face (*), walking out...

(*) No car dealers were harmed in this story. This is pure fiction.

 

[NickB]

@WhoaDomain.com You are one crazy son of a bitch, if I may say so

Call the VP back - open a dialogue without insulting the company, her or any other employees and see how it goes.......you have nothing to lose by doing this except slightly bruising your ego

And don't be to greedy

 

[garptrader]

Yes it can be frustrating to be a domain investor with a curated portfolio which gets the occasional $xxx offer from an end user when my job entails having visibility to the spending of numerous companies. On the other hand one has to consider how unique / replaceable their domain is and not fall in love with a mediocre domain just because a company might like to have it.

 

[frank-germany]

However, main thing is ..... don't be an ass.

guess here the problem starts...

 

[frank-germany]

I am guessing the actual domain is probably not that great honestly. If it was it would have likely been registered a long time ago.

$5K might be more than a reasonable opening offer.

The issue might be your unrealistic expectations more than anything else.

Brad

I guess there is no evidence on that claim

 

[EJS]

It sounds like you are emotional about this, which is good and bad. I get it. I have names I think companies with funds should buy but either don't have an interest or don't have the budget. It is frustrating.

My suggestion is to work with a broker to negotiate a fair deal on this. In addition to taking the emotion out of the equation, you can also get a third party's opinion about what the name is worth or a fair price for the domain name.

Yes, a broker will cost you a commission if the name is sold, but it might be helpful in this situation where you feel so strongly. I don't really know of any good/reliable brokers who would jump into a negotiation - especially in the 4 figure range, but maybe others can suggest one if you choose to go that route.

It's not good to bring emotions into a negotiation, and it can be really tough to put emotions aside when the other party is not acting as I would expect them to act.

Good luck closing a deal.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I think insulting anyone is never the right move.
I would simply give my price, along with the message you are willing to negotiate on that price, if you are.
If you are open to a payment plan, I would indicate that in the message. But keep it short.
It is not your business what the company has done right or wrong, in your opinion.
Bob

 

[Joe N]

Actually after the last $5000 offer I stopped responding. Even when the VP told me to call her on her mobile.

This is a shame. I feel like that was your opportunity to make a deal happen. Having a VP of a major corp calling you multiple times with interest in your name is exactly the situation you're hoping for. I agree with the others who said to call her anyway. I don't care if it's been a month, two months, or a year. Just tell her it was off the market for a while but now you're considering offers again.

On a side note - couldn't help but chuckle at the example names and companies you're using... I've owned Louisiana/Chicken [.com] for a few years, and since then I've been all up and down the internet trying to talk to execs at the big companies you mentioned. I'm not reaching for the stars like you are, but needless to say I would be pretty happy to have a Popeye's VP calling me up.

 

[BrandAptly.com]

I have been putting off contacting the CEO of a huge company that generates $2 billion a year in revenue.

The domain in question I rather not say.

But as always I am shooting for the moon. 6 figures.

I was going to go the usual typical pitch.

but based on their offers I'm losing my cool.

Backstory.

The CEO and his company owns multiple companies. Of which my domain? is an EMD for an offshoot product for one of them.

That generates $30 million yearly consistently

I have been hesitating contacting the CEO because I'm scared of what I'm about to do.

he bought this "failing" company back in 2004.

How will I insult him?

I will explain to him all the mistakes his employees made as far as my .com is concerned.

These mistakes even happened years before he purchased the company back in 2004.

here's a list of the mistakes.

1. Company has a great brand. been around since 1967. Their .com is a single word. So they did a good job there. Then they registered other domains for brand protection strategy.

Think Kentucky+FriedChicken.com

First mistake?

They did not register "FriedChicken.com" and or "Chicken.com" and even though they didn't? they made the second mistake and did not try to buy it while it was cheap back in 1998 mind you they have been in business since 1967.

2. Enter their competitor. let's call them Popeye's.

Popeye's came in at 1997 while KFC started in 1967.

So KFC was around 30 years before Popeye's. so much opportunity. Missed.

3. So now Popeye's purchased Chicken.com and FriedChicken.com and is kicking their ass as far as online is concerned.

so what's left? as far as domain registration how "close" can you get to "FriedChicken.com" or "Chicken.com"? I say....

EChicken.com
EFriedChicken.com
IFriedChicken.com
IChicken.com

well you get the idea.

4. next mistake? His "team" got into a room and decided to go with a new brand launch and called it.

EChicken and advertising it all over the net via press releases. WITHOUT REGISTERING the .com or even trying to purchase it from me first before putting it out there.

When does the "insult" come in?

I was gonna tell him. I've checked the salaries of his employees.

some are $100K+ up to $350K +

I assume these are smart people to have such big salaries.

So since 1967 how much salaries were paid? millions!

yet no one thought to register the perfect URL shortener for their brand? plus a domain that allows them to "sit" on the best keyword like "Chicken"?

My domain is basically the "next best thing" as owning Chicken.com and FriedChicken.com

I'll tell him I decided to contact him directly because all these employees offering me just $5000 are just people trying to save face and not look like a bunch of idiots.

"So you guys went with EChicken but did not register EChicken.com and did not try to buy it first before letting the cat out the bag?"

They F***Ked up. Plain and simple.

Not my fault.

my domain? was never registered till about few years ago.

All this time. 30 years, no one thought to just reg this domain for "the heck of it".

now I have it and they offer just $5,000 to make this embarrassing problem go away?

I'll tell him.

"Under Who's WATCH was domain.com supposed to be registered?"
Who dropped the ball on this?
And what is their current salary? All of them in Total?

I don't work for your company
I don't make $150K a year. or $350K a year. But I did something useful for your company. Something that will promote your $30 million generating business.

You tell me. Who is the best person to promote your EChicken $30 million dollar a year generating business?

20 sales managers earning $150K a year? or a Schmuck who registered EChicken.com and can email anyone around the world with a brochure of your product via email in seconds? for free? using something like

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

I have worked for large companies and have manage large teams.

All I ever see are people doing the "bare minimum" for what they get a pay check for.

Just enough to get by but never "above and beyond" the call of duty.

When you hire people. You are putting business in the hands of Total Strangers.

They only care about their check. They never look out for your "best interest at heart".

They could care less that you are #2 and Popeye's is 1#.

To them that is "Good enough" and then collect their check.

They never think of registering EChicken.com or try to buy it for cheap before announcing to the world the new "EChicken" brand to save the Boss money.

Yet my dumbass registered a domain that is the perfect web address for your $30 million dollar generating business.

How dumb is that? To get a bunch of $150K- $350K earning a year people in a meeting and they come up with a new brand and "went with it" without securing the EMD .com first?

next mistake? They contact me using THEIR REAL NAME not broker. Easy enough to Google them and check Linkedin and find them.

I wish I could say the web address they are using because they can't own my domain. lol

soooooo idiotic.

They are already hashtagging the EMD for my domain.

I would then say "How stupid are your employees?"

and they are still rolling out with Press Releases mentioning my domain's EMD Keywords.

dumb dumb dumb.

Meanwhile I decided to renew the domain for several years. So I'll just wait.

so would you ever insult your potential buyer?

lol

Why am I hesistating? I might just p*ss off the CEO they won't buy or come after me via UDRP.


Fyi. in case yall didn't figure it out. The companies and .com's mentioned here are NOT my domains or the buyer..

As tempting as insulting the CEO may be, please restrain yourself. I recommend you go with @Rob Monster suggestion with a little twist. Present it to their competition and start a bidding war. Make them aware that you're receiving offers from their competitors. That usually does the trick.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

This is a shame. I feel like that was your opportunity to make a deal happen. Having a VP of a major corp calling you multiple times with interest in your name is exactly the situation you're hoping for. I agree with the others who said to call her anyway. I don't care if it's been a month, two months, or a year. Just tell her it was off the market for a while but now you're considering offers again.

On a side note - couldn't help but chuckle at the example names and companies you're using... I've owned Louisiana/Chicken [.com] for a few years, and since then I've been all up and down the internet trying to talk to execs at the big companies you mentioned. I'm not reaching for the stars like you are, but needless to say I would be pretty happy to have a Popeye's VP calling me up.

hahaha funny funny!

I actually just had Louisiana Chicken last month! It's about 6 blocks from my place. I actually like their Chicken. Didn't like the rice. was a big dry.

Info. If you need me to help you sell that domain, let me know. I actually was in there and the one time I was in there waiting for an order I had a chat with a regional manager.

He explained to me that it was I think Chinese? or Vietnamese or Indonesian Company? basically copied Popeye's and KFC and franchised.

I think I still have his number somewhere because I'd like more info about their franchising.

if I can't find the number could always just go there and ask.

hey you never know!

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

As tempting as insulting the CEO may be, please restrain yourself. I recommend you go with @Rob Monster suggestion with a little twist. Present it to their competition and start a bidding war. Make them aware that you're receiving offers from their competitors. That usually does the trick.

I've done the "other offers" thing before. Maybe it's my delivery over the phone but most don't believe it. or it's not in their interest to believe it.

Thanks

 

[namemarket]

.....Add a catch-all email address on your domain and watch for inbounds. - Forward emails that probably should have gone to those execs....

Think about not doing that. Not a good idea (IMO) since they can easily use the emails as concrete evidence of confusion and bad faith to help win a potential UDRP case.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

It sounds like you are emotional about this, which is good and bad. I get it. I have names I think companies with funds should buy but either don't have an interest or don't have the budget. It is frustrating.

My suggestion is to work with a broker to negotiate a fair deal on this. In addition to taking the emotion out of the equation, you can also get a third party's opinion about what the name is worth or a fair price for the domain name.

Yes, a broker will cost you a commission if the name is sold, but it might be helpful in this situation where you feel so strongly. I don't really know of any good/reliable brokers who would jump into a negotiation - especially in the 4 figure range, but maybe others can suggest one if you choose to go that route.

It's not good to bring emotions into a negotiation, and it can be really tough to put emotions aside when the other party is not acting as I would expect them to act.

Good luck closing a deal.

I seem to have omitted something which might explain why I am a big "emo" about this.

The director of marketing really rubbed me the wrong way with the last thing he said to me.

In short he "implied" that and I quote "maybe we should go the TM route."

Wow! really? So I won't take your $5,000 offer and say "under the tongue" that "maybe we should go the TM route."

My reply was of course. I regged the domain first. Prior to them ever "coming out" and publicly using the new brand or product with the same name.

I think after that I just made sure the domain is mine for several years. so if they check they know I won't lose it anytime soon.

Also. As usual I create a clickbait thread titles just to get people to drop by and talk.

But I think "insult" is too much. Although I do fantasize about doing it.

I'll probably just go thru a list of things I feel justifies the price for the domain. I am going to point out though that there were so many missed opportunities for this company to register this domain but never did even after their competitor bought Chicken.com.

Minus snark or insult.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

@WhoaDomain.com You are one crazy son of a bitch, if I may say so

Call the VP back - open a dialogue without insulting the company, her or any other employees and see how it goes.......you have nothing to lose by doing this except slightly bruising your ego

And don't be to greedy

hehe. I think also I've been. what's the saying?

Dove in the deep end of the rabbit hole?

did I say that right?

ever since I got the first inquiry. been looking into this company and it's parent company.

very interesting read.

The things they spend their money on to improve the business is such a waste of money with no guarantee on return on investment.

I just can't understand where they stand on my domain.

I'll just bide my time. Meanwhile.

I Google the keywords of my domain every other month and they are still using it.

one they they probably won't. and that will suck.

At the car dealership:

Me: nice car, how much do you want for it?
Dealer: 200K. It's way better than that piece of sh*t you're driving right now. Did your wife make you buy that? What were you thinking! You dropped the ball. She must not love you at all wanting you to drive that pathetic looking car. Oh it's a business car? What sucker advised you on that? Fire them all, they take advantage of you. They don't know sh*t. You should've come to me. I'm the sales God and am here to judge all your decisions, which have been crap btw. Now go buy this car.
Me: ... punching him in the face (*), walking out...

(*) No car dealers were harmed in this story. This is pure fiction.

hahahaha

 

[Rob Monster]

Think about not doing that. Not a good idea (IMO) since they can easily use the emails as concrete evidence of confusion and bad faith to help win a potential UDRP case.

Nah, I approach it more from perspective of ombudsman. This is about inbound emails. I have gotten payroll notices from employees from companies and notified the responsible exec to update their credentials. It is just courtesy -- do unto others stuff. Sometimes it brings ROI. The key is intent.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

@WhoaDomain.com You are one crazy son of a bitch, if I may say so

Call the VP back - open a dialogue without insulting the company, her or any other employees and see how it goes.......you have nothing to lose by doing this except slightly bruising your ego

And don't be to greedy

hehe. I think also I've been. what's the saying?

Dove in the deep end of the rabbit hole?

did I say that right?

ever since I got the first inquiry. been looking into this company and it's parent company.

very interesting read.

The things they spend their money on to improve the business is such a waste of money with no guarantee on return on investment.

I just can't understand where they stand on my domain.

I'll just bide my time. Meanwhile.

I Google the keywords of my domain every other month and they are still using it.

 

[Joe N]

hahaha funny funny!

I actually just had Louisiana Chicken last month! It's about 6 blocks from my place. I actually like their Chicken. Didn't like the rice. was a big dry.

Info. If you need me to help you sell that domain, let me know. I actually was in there and the one time I was in there waiting for an order I had a chat with a regional manager.

He explained to me that it was I think Chinese? or Vietnamese or Indonesian Company? basically copied Popeye's and KFC and franchised.

I think I still have his number somewhere because I'd like more info about their franchising.

if I can't find the number could always just go there and ask.

hey you never know!

Louisiana FFC is a bit of a strange animal... From what I can tell, the corporate office does little more than sell the franchises. The individual franchise owners appear to each be responsible for their own promotion and online presence, so it makes a sale to them a tougher proposition.

I actually got in touch with the owner (I think it was the owner) by phone a few years ago. When I mentioned I was selling the domain name, he said, "We already have one." <click> Soooo yeah, a bit of a dead end there.

But by all means, if you think you have the ear of a franchise owner and would be willing to make a pitch on my behalf, then drop me a PM. I'm sure we could work something out.

 

[alienbaba]

Send the CEO and all the employees who made the mistake a package from dicksbymail.com with a hidden cam, then sell your story to multiple news organisations + livestream it on TIKTOK & make millions.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Louisiana FFC is a bit of a strange animal... From what I can tell, the corporate office does little more than sell the franchises. The individual franchise owners appear to each be responsible for their own promotion and online presence, so it makes a sale to them a tougher proposition.

I actually got in touch with the owner (I think it was the owner) by phone a few years ago. When I mentioned I was selling the domain name, he said, "We already have one." <click> Soooo yeah, a bit of a dead end there.

But by all means, if you think you have the ear of a franchise owner and would be willing to make a pitch on my behalf, then drop me a PM. I'm sure we could work something out.

great cool. He wasn't a franchise owner. but the regional manager. He helped franchise owners set up.

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Send the CEO and all the employees who made the mistake a package from dicksbymail.com with a hidden cam, then sell your story to multiple news organisations + livestream it on TIKTOK & make millions.

 

[Joe N]

great cool. He wasn't a franchise owner. but the regional manager. He helped franchise owners set up.

Even better!

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Even better!

what is their current url?

 

[Joe N]

what is their current url?

https://louisianafriedchickenhq.com/

But then each location seems to have their own site as well... and they don't all use the same format for the domain names.