discuss Why Dot-Best new tld may in fact be one of the "best"

[namemarket]

There seems to not be a lot of good potential keywords in front of .best These are my thoughts on that subject.

I believe one of the main perceived and quite possibly valid benefits of dot-best is keyword(s) do not necessarily need to be in front of "best" but can work without the best word in the name by being instead in the extension and which can replace the 'best' word by only being in the URL with extension.

For example, BestDomainName.com can be replaced with DomainName.Best and the search engines may rank it well or possibly even the same ranking, assuming the name is listed in the search index. A good example of that is as Cyril said 'Madeira Best' search results being the same or similar to 'Best Madeira' etc.

So the idea is BestKeyword.com or whatever can be replaced with Keyword.Best URL resulting in a shorter URL with search engines potentially giving value to the term by also using the reverse word order in the search index results. So in that random example the extension replaces a need to put the Best word in front of the dot.

I know it all sounds confusing but I have reasons to suspect this is actually correct and may be valid thinking and in fact I now personally like dot-best a lot and believe it's an excellent new extension, probably the "best" overall potential of any of the new tlds and certainly a good buy with the $1.98 promo, IMO.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

[...] ...best is a much more powerful word vs top. [...]

I understand your point - but your sentence above is not really the caseee

Because the word "best" is used for the best (of / in whatever).
But the word "top" tops the word "best" as it is above all best.
It is the top - synonyme for "best" and so top is better than besttt

That's the reason why people / media / companies use it when they talk about the absolute highest qualityyy

 

[namemarket]

I understand your point - but your sentence above is not really the caseee

Because the word "best" is used for the best (of / in whatever).
But the word "top" tops the word "best" as it is above all best.
It is the top - synonyme for "best" and so top is better than besttt

That's the reason why people / media / companies use it when they talk about the absolute highest qualityyy

Thanks for your opinion and I see your point however I stand firmly behind what I earlier said. There's really little comparison between .top and .best what with BEST being far ahead of top overall, at least in USA. I am guessing (don't really know) top may be popular in some phrases in nations like China for example.

 

[JB Lions]

I understand your point - but your sentence above is not really the caseee

Because the word "best" is used for the best (of / in whatever).
But the word "top" tops the word "best" as it is above all best.
It is the top - synonyme for "best" and so top is better than besttt

That's the reason why people / media / companies use it when they talk about the absolute highest qualityyy

What happens when .tiptop comes out? tiptop > top

Round 2 is going to wipe your investments out.

define:tiptop

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=define:tiptop

adjective
adjective: tiptop

1. 1.
   of the very best class or quality; excellent.
   "an athlete in tip-top condition"

noun
noun: tiptop

1. 1.
   the highest part or point of excellence.
   
   

 

[xynames]

Why can't both .best and .top be the same? Why does one need to be necessarily better than the other? Maybe both are equally good (or bad).

 

[shabash786]

There seems to not be a lot of good potential keywords in front of .best These are my thoughts on that subject.

I believe one of the main perceived and quite possibly valid benefits of dot-best is keyword(s) do not necessarily need to be in front of "best" but can work without the best word in the name by being instead in the extension and which can replace the 'best' word by only being in the URL with extension.

For example, BestDomainName.com can be replaced with DomainName.Best and the search engines may rank it well or possibly even the same ranking, assuming the name is listed in the search index. A good example of that is as Cyril said 'Madeira Best' search results being the same or similar to 'Best Madeira' etc.

So the idea is BestKeyword.com or whatever can be replaced with Keyword.Best URL resulting in a shorter URL with search engines potentially giving value to the term by also using the reverse word order in the search index results. So in that random example the extension replaces a need to put the Best word in front of the dot.

I know it all sounds confusing but I have reasons to suspect this is actually correct and may be valid thinking and in fact I now personally like dot-best a lot and believe it's an excellent new extension, probably the "best" overall potential of any of the new tlds and certainly a good buy with the $1.98 promo, IMO.

"Really appreciate your thoughts but IMO .best can't be compared to .com because it may be injustice a bit but what I think is, .best is a perfect word and extension in itself. I mean when you write "best" with any keyword or any domain name, you stand out from the crowd so this is the case with .best tld and you may keep it saperate from the others.
So if you don't compare .best to any other tld, still .best is a stand-alone perfect tld for any name.
Like one I registered is Blogger.best
As for google ranking, Domain name is a keyfactor but still the content is king for ranking at the top of google.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Thanks for your opinion and I see your point however I stand firmly behind what I earlier said. There's really little comparison between .top and .best what with BEST being far ahead of top overall, at least in USA. I am guessing (don't really know) top may be popular in some phrases in nations like China for example.

I always welcome it when people stand behind of what they sayyy
At the same time I welcome it when people change their conviction if they get a reason to do sooo

Nothing (earthly) can be ahead of the top, no matter how good it is...
...therefore also not the best.

"China" (the people behind the .top registry) understood the worldwide power / potencial behind the term "top", chinese people use it primarily as a synonyme for breaktroughhh
So they created a TLD out of ittt
It has the perfect number of letters (3) for a TLD, is not an abbreviation and accepted globallyyy

A breakthrough the best to the toppp

In Europe, the term "top" is symbolically used (especially in advertising in all kind of media) for "the best of the best", for "the ultimate highest best", for "better than best"... ...this may not yet be the case in USA but thats not decisiveee

Like how it's not decisive that USA - based - registrar "Godaddy" does not offer .top although it's the world's #1 new TLD which is not a coincidenceee

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

What happens when .tiptop comes out? tiptop > top

Round 2 is going to wipe your investments out.

define:tiptop

google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=define:tiptop
adjective
adjective: tiptop

1. 1.
   of the very best class or quality; excellent.
   "an athlete in tip-top condition"

noun
noun: tiptop

1. 1.
   the highest part or point of excellence.

Nice tryyy

No problm if .tiptop will come out everrr

"top" = The highest or uppermost part of something.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/top

"tiptop" = ends with... "...top"
"top" topps every "tip" because every tip has a toppp

So round two is not coming because round one is round winnn

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Why can't both .best and .top be the same? Why does one need to be necessarily better than the other? Maybe both are equally good (or bad).

They can't because they aren't and they never were and they never will be the sameee

.top = .top
.best = .best

apples ≠ oranges

 

[namemarket]

Wh

"Really appreciate your thoughts but IMO .best can't be compared to .com because it may be injustice a bit but what I think is, .best is a perfect word and extension in itself. I mean when you write "best" with any keyword or any domain name, you stand out from the crowd so this is the case with .best tld and you may keep it saperate from the others.
So if you don't compare .best to any other tld, still .best is a stand-alone perfect tld for any name.
Like one I registered is Blogger.best
As for google ranking, Domain name is a keyfactor but still the content is king for ranking at the top of google.

Do you mean an injustice to .com because .best is in some important ways better than .com? If that is what you intended to say I AGREE with it. In fact, again one more time today I reg'd a dot-best which was unregistered in dot-com and got it anyway thus leaving all other extensions available except .best

 

[namemarket]

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[xynames]

Why can't both .best and .top be the same? Why does one need to be necessarily better than the other? Maybe both are equally good (or bad).

.top and .best

EACH WORSE THAN THE OTHER.

(But only if you line them up that way.)

 

[namemarket]

Hello all, I am getting disturbed and annoyed that several members here appear to be implying, thinking or alleging I am somehow trying to pump-up or help dot-best sales. I am not sure why they may wondering but am getting impression a few may be thinking I am somehow working for or getting compensation from Cyril Best to do that, which is extremely insulating to both myself and Cyril.

For the record, I do not personally know Cyril and have never spoken to him or has Cyril ever asked my to promote dot-best here or anywhere else, or have I suggested such a thing to anyone. My only connection to dot-best is because I believe the gtld is great I have well over 100 .best domains.

Ironically by saying how I like .best it actually hurts me because many times a .best I went to reg was taken by someone here likely attributable at least in part to my .best posts here.

Below are 4 more or less random posts that members are saying about me. Names are not shown.

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With respect to namemarket (and recognizing that we all get a little over enthusiastic at times I tend to agree with other member that the OP was a bit more pro .best than I feel is justified.

Are you just trying to mess with people's heads or are you serious on doing this? Lolz if real. Whose paying your cc bill?

Sounds like paid advertising to me' or you have a profound sense of a (strange) kind of humor.

I agree with above, it is a very unusual post. I've seen a few people talking about the .best TLD and pumping it as a big SEO advantage but this strikes me as just plain false.

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

.top and .best

EACH WORSE THAN THE OTHER.

[...]

Only for those who don't see their qualityyy

Those who see their quality, see that .top has .top qualityyy
Like they see that .best has .best qualityyy

 

[xynames]

Only for those meaning...the majority of the world. The majority of the world says, PASS, on both .best and .top

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

Only for those meaning...the majority of the world. The majority of the world says, PASS, on both .best and .top

I know that the majority of the world (wide web) is satisfied with .com hahaahaaa

 

[Fancy.domains]

Some (highly immoral) people would claim .beer and .sex to be the top of the best domains.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

In case you have not seen it the domain investor who was the purchaser of the premium name bank.best has been identified and speaks in this YouTube video. He is looking to sell it for $1 million +. He has about 1000 domains (decade+ investor apparently) and about 100 best. He does not disclose the price he paid for bank except saying it was "too much". The interview is in French but with English subtitles.
Bob

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Below are 4 more or less random posts that members are saying about me. Names are not shown.

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With respect to namemarket (and recognizing that we all get a little over enthusiastic at times I tend to agree with other member that the OP was a bit more pro .best than I feel is justified.

I have been absorbed with other things and not back to this thread until just now. I don't mind identifying myself as the sayer of this but had never even considered that you might interpret what I said this way:

I am getting disturbed and annoyed that several members here appear to be implying, thinking or alleging I am somehow trying to pump-up or help dot-best sales. I am not sure why they may wondering but am getting impression a few may be thinking I am somehow working for or getting compensation from Cyril Best to do that, which is extremely insulating to both myself and Cyril.

I can assure you that thought was never my intention to in any way imply and quite simply and honestly the idea never even occurred to me. I was only saying that while I like .best I felt that your initial comments were more enthusiastic about it than I would feel (and added that we all do that during initial enthusiasm). I am sorry you mistook the meaning of what I, and probably others, wrote.

Anyway just wanted to clarify and make clear that what you read outside the lines was not my intention or even something I had ever considered.

Bob

 

[Kate]

In case you have not seen it the domain investor who was the purchaser of the premium name bank.best has been identified and speaks in this YouTube video. He is looking to sell it for $1 million +.

I think this is pretty bad. A delusional domain seller looking for another more delusional buyer. I chose my words carefully here. This kind of plan seldom pays off.

He reminds me of the people who invested 6 figures in .mobi domains.
You might say nothing is impossible but tell me how many names in new extensions have sold for 1 million or more ?

 

[DOMAIN ILLUMINATI]

[...] ...the top of the best... [...]

And there we have it... see, you wrote "...the top of the best" - this proofs that people (you in this case) are using the term top to describe the highest form of besttt

You wasn't using just best, no - you were using top of the besttt

You were using toppp

 

[namemarket]

I have been absorbed with other things and not back to this thread until just now. I don't mind identifying myself as the sayer of this but had never even considered that you might interpret what I said this way:


I can assure you that thought was never my intention to in any way imply and quite simply and honestly the idea never even occurred to me. I was only saying that while I like .best I felt that your initial comments were more enthusiastic about it than I would feel (and added that we all do that during initial enthusiasm). I am sorry you mistook the meaning of what I, and probably others, wrote.

Anyway just wanted to clarify and make clear that what you read outside the lines was not my intention or even something I had ever considered.

Bob

I know Bob and understand Please accept my apology as I should not have included your quote which I read fast and out of context. When I wrote that I was disturbed over several other things going on at same time.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

You mention .mobi a lot @Kate, did you notice? I think that alternative extension is not the right comparator for most new gTLDs. Mobi was a multi-company technical effort that was believed to be ESSENTIAL for all websites, but then one major player went a different road, we had adaptive web design, and the market was almost overnight gone because there was no longer the one case for it. While the example shows that things can go down fast, it is not really comparable to any other extension, I would argue, or at least not to most (well I guess if suddenly the word stopped having apps then maybe that would be comparable). I know many got hugely burned in the .mobi auction gamble, and hold that against all extensions other than .com, but the comparison is not strong in my mind.

To your point re bank.best, I agree this is unlikely to be the first new gTLD sale to hit $1 million. It is in the eye of the beholder whether it is in the class of online.casino, vacation.rentals and home.loans that went for $500k each. One can argue that like them it is in a lucrative industry (and he does argue that). However, I think banking may be more traditional in thinking and less likely to go with an alternative extension.

Of course whether a good investment depends on what he paid. Which we don't know. Thanks as always for keeping us reality focussed Kate.

Bob

 

[Kate]

You mention .mobi a lot @Kate, did you notice?

Of course, it's because nothing has changed. No learning is taking place. People spending 6 figures on unproven extensions that will never amount to anything. At least .mobi had some momentum and backing from industry players. That is not even the case here, just another extension among hundreds of others. And new extensions are released all the time, the novelty is not even there.

However, I think banking may be more traditional in thinking and less likely to go with an alternative extension.

That's what I think too, on the other hand banks are concerned with phishing and typoquatting.
A few banks have applied for their own extension. Saxo is one of them.
There is also a .bank TLD.

And guess what:

Spoiler: the alternative

best.bank Is Available!
Standard .BANK domains are approximately $1,000.

Source: https://www.register.bank/?domain=best#results
I agree the renewal fee is steep but this domain makes more sense, a lot more than in reverse order.

You know, I am not surprised that the buyer is not a native English speaker. But finding a real end user willing to brand around that name is going to be challenging.

 

[namemarket]

.....However, I think banking may be more traditional in thinking and less likely to go with an alternative extension.....

Agree that is correct in most cases but there are exceptions Bob. One in particular I was personally involved with was about 2 years ago after the new dot-bank extension came out.

I had (and still have today) a nice 4 letter dot-com acronym with surprising type-in traffic which I was using in a financial related but non-bank business category with no trademark risk. So a mid-size bank with many branches in Ohio asked me if they can buy my domain.

That bank was widely known for over 100-years by its acronym which matched the 4 words in its official long bank name and their marketing and advertising used my short acronym vs the long real bank name. The Bank President started negotiating with me starting at a very low $500.

When I told him more like several thousand $ not 3 figures he became angry and said in email I was a cyber-squatter on his bank name even though I never heard of that bank before since I am not in Ohio. He would not go above 3-figures even though the bank had more than $800,000,000 in assets and 3 or 4 figures (maybe even 5 figures) was insignificant to the bank.

So instead he buys the acronym.bank name such as ABCD.BANK which his customers and prospects little doubt don't type-in dot-bank but still go to my dot-com which is why today I am sure I get regular traffic from that. Ironically, the cost of dot-bank I heard was more than my price so the .bank ext cost him more money, harder marketing and more difficult SEO, plus likely lots of misdirected traffic every day.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

Yes, definitely true that .bank is an option. Thank you for the detailed account of the .bank story, @namemarket. Bank are also expensive, right, like $800 a year or near that? The one thing .bank offers is of course verified use only by a bank, which will appeal to some. I think there are a couple of thousand in use, but I don't know of any significant banks in this area using it (although a payment processor is using one, but I think so far in redirect). Although one of our major member owned financial institutions is now on a .coop, another verified extension. The fact that it is verified and Verisign runs the back end probably attracts some to it, although growth has been slow.

Thanks for explaining why you keep using .mobi as the comparator, @Kate, although I still find it not really valid since it was not just a new extension but one that the tech world said would be essential for all operating websites. I think a better comparator to argue against new gTLDs would be xyz that clearly had a bigger splash, and lots of high price sales, in its first year and a half, but has stumbled in resale market, to some degree, since then.

I am surprised that a registry does not come out with an extension that emphasizes security. i.e. they are particularly vigilant on phishing, it is a secure space like the Google ones, they certify ownership to a higher standard, etc. People are so alarmed with incessant phishing that it is making corporate email almost useless.

Bob