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Why Dot-Best new tld may in fact be one of the "best"

Labeled as discuss in Domain Extensions, started by namemarket, Mar 17, 2019

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  1. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    I have been exploring to try to find some .best sites that rate highly. Not surprisingly, the list is not long, since until recently there were only a few thousand registrations. According to NameStat data they currently have 13 in Alexa 1M, about one per 900 registrations, not bad actually for a new extension.

    One surprising thing I notice is that if I search on 'locals best' the number 1 search result on my Google (from here in Canada) is the .best site by that name, even though they seem to be a US based company. If I search on 'best locals' it is way further down. Now locals.best are apparently a branding and marketing company, so quite probably they do a great job of SEO on their own site.

    I also tried "best locals" (in quotes) and they came up number 3 on that search whereas 'best locals' without quotes have them not on page 1.

    I also had a look at where the .best are being registered, and US and France account for the majority. See NameStat for full data. Interestingly so far at least less than 2% from China, different from most new gTLD registrations.

    Bob
     
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  2. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    You do realize you blocked all email from a TLD (.space) that has consistently had better lack of abuse characteristics than either .com or .net (according to the Spamhaus who are the pros in the topic)? And since this is about .best, I would also point out that applies to .best (better in abuse score than .com and .net) 0.7% of operating sites abuse vs 6.8% for .com using today's stats.
    Bob
     
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  3. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    Although I gave Joe's well written contribution a like, I would like to add that I think this last sentence overstates it. Certainly in large parts of the world, including Canada, country codes are widely accepted. In fact surveys show they are more trusted. Saying that anything other than .com is viewed as sketchy by the average consumer is not accurate in my view.
    Bob
     
  4. Joe Nichols

    Joe Nichols Common sense consultant VIP

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    Absolutely right, Bob. Cctlds are very well trusted in many countries.
     
  5. Yusupbabay

    Yusupbabay presiden.com VIP Gold Account

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    .best parking revenue continues to grow

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  6. Zilla

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    Great sharing...they are paying themself!
     
  7. namemarket

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    When I clicked reply to comment on your post the first time I started to reply it said at screen top the word 'dispensary' so is dispensary.best your name or at least 1 of your 6 .best earning ppc?

     
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  8. Yusupbabay

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    registration fee of $ 1.99 x 6 domain = $ 11.94 has returned.
     
  9. Yusupbabay

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    hello my friend
    its dominance is not this.
    sorry I can't say the name,

    best regards
     
  10. NamesBond

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    Indeed, I just checked the .space TLD on Spamhaus and it rated at 7.0% score. (And .best does have a much better score...) But that is really beside the point...

    The salient fact here is that there is a spam filtering capability, being utilized by more and more admins, to simply block entire categories of new TLDs en masse to defeat incoming spam regardless of a particular TLDs abuse characteristics. In fact, that is one reason why spammers are always seeking out .com domains to use for their nefarious purposes, is they can not be filtered by most systems. (Hence a higher Spamhaus "score" for .com... Like coyotes on the border, Spammers are simply going to where there is a hole in the fence...)

    Bottom line for domainers, and IMHO it bears repeating, is that susceptibility to filtering reduces the investment value of the entire class of new TLDs (incl. .Best)

    'Nuf said! ;)
     
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  11. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    Do you have any evidence for that statement? Over 3 billion (yes that is correct not million) email boxes are protected by partners using Spamhaus and the blocking (and whitelisting) they do is not by TLD. That is half of all email accounts on the planet! You can use their site or Wikipedia to read about how they do blocking.

    Yes, I can set my personal blocking filters to block almost anything I want - certain words, content, regions, a TLD new or legacy, etc. A smart business would never do blocking in an illogical and broad way imho. That is why Spamhaus and similar professional groups exist - so that those who should be blocked are, but broad brushes catch as few who should be not as possible.

    Like your blocking of .space for example would block the main companies in the professional co-working space market (among many other valid uses of the extension). Not the mention the million plus members of Asgardia nation :xf.wink:. Or a huge group of perfectly respectable artists, designers, crafters, writers that have adopted .space. That is why .space does just fine on abuse measures, it does have real world use.

    Bob
     
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  12. NamesBond

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    @Bob Hawkes, thanks for engaging on this little-discussed issue. As to evidence, I respectfully suggest that you simply google "How to block new TLDs" to view the numerous discussions of the issue to see how the "block 'em all" approach to new TLDs is gaining traction in many quarters. Below find an excerpt which I think pretty much sums up the emerging strategies. Bottom line for me is that I kinda see this issue as analogous to robocalls; the abuse is becoming so rampant that many folks are moving to a new TLD blocking model. IMHO, unless a new TLD can show that a majority of its names are being utilized for legitimate purposes, it is at risk of being blacklisted and blocked. (And, in any event, even the "threat" of being blocked can negatively affect investment value - JMHO of course... and again, no knock against .best in particular, but simply another barrier to be overcome for investors in the new extensions...)

    Excerpt:
    Discussion threads in Barracuda Forums, Vamsoft Community, SpamTitan Spiceworks Community, HowtoForge, Slipstick Exchange Server Community, SpamAssassin and Topicdesk.com forums reveal a common and important operating principle:

    Email administrators weigh risk against reward when they make decisions regarding how to mitigate spam. They think first or exclusively about the security of their organization, their users, or their customers.

    Email administrators are willing and by their own accounts do apply filtering rules to block delivery of email from entire TLDs. (Emphasis mine) Blocking at the TLD level is a practice that has been and continues to be applied to ccTLDs. One administrator justifies this practice saying, “some countries have no laws against spam, and providers are happy to take money from spammers and allow them to send millions of emails.”

    Administrators have blocked entire TLDs in the past, using event logs or “most abused lists” as the basis for blocklisting. Several strategies regarding new TLDs appear in discussion threads:

    • Administrators in several email communities have discussed the merits of implementing a policy to block abused TLDs or all new TLDs and have shared policy configurations because they believe that this action will reduce their organizational or subscribers’ risk.
    • Some administrators comment that they use their passive DNS replication data to block all newly registered domains in new TLDs in order to catch abuse domain names that have not yet been added to URI blocklists.
    • Some administrators are willing to tolerate false positives to mitigate spam if they believe that this action will effectively block abuse domains used in spam attacks. Administrators who appear more familiar with domain registration services claim to create filtering rules that block email based on the name server names that are associated with registrars that have poor reputations, again demonstrating a willingness to accept false positives until the registrar’s reputation improves.
    • Email administrators admit to blocking entire new TLDs to mitigate spam when their organizations conclude that there is little likelihood that it will receive legitimate business correspondence from any but a few recognized legacy TLDs.
     
  13. alcy

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    do you research your .best names for park revenue/backlinks before you reg?
    or is this purely random luck????

    you may be giving people false impressions that registering any random .best names will give them parking revenues.
     
  14. Yusupbabay

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    Hello my friend
    I bought the .best domain before doing research first. but not all domains have enough income.
    for example:

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  15. alcy

    alcy Top Contributor VIP

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    hmmm.. well.. you are still basically showing domains which show either some revenue.. or some trafic... and this is more than an average random domain in other extensions.. which is why I asked you if you are just randomly registering .best domains or if you research backlinks before you buy.

    but I understand this is totally random. well good for you then.

    are your .best names non premium or premium?

    ty
     

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