Got a "F*ck You" response from a domainer

[MapleDots]

I made a number of inquiries on domain names lately and am still shocked how many domainers do not respond to an inquiry. Granted I did not open with a price, I always ask what are you looking to get for the domain. I end by saying I am very interested and please do not ignore my inquiry.

In the last month I have sent 6 inquiries and received only two responses and one response ended in a sale. So from 6 domains one was what I would call a great transaction and the other one at least an attempt for a sale.

That said, I have a tendency to send the inquiry at least twice and this month I send the following to 4 of my inquiries. that failed to respond.

Hello. I made several attempts to start dialogue to purchase domain.com and have received no response from you. I stated both times that I was very interested in the domain and would appreciate either a call or email back. At this point I will terminate any negotiation on this domain and wish you well in your endeavors. That said, I was very interested in your domain and it is your loss not to have responded. As a domainer myself I feel this is very poor business management on your behalf.

Got one response back from a domainer

Was two words

Guess what they were?

"F*ck You"

Wow.... just wow

 

[MapleDots]

Forgot to mention, I sent 2 inquiries to all domainers, expressly asking not to be ignored and to please start dialogue so we could start the negotiations for the purchase of the domains.

 

[Galaxy Traveller]

Which domain?

 

[DomainGist]

How do you know he is a domainer?

 

[Dave]

I made a number of inquiries on domain names lately and am still shocked how many domainers do not respond to an inquiry. Granted I did not open with a price, I always ask what are you looking to get for the domain. I end by saying I am very interested and please do not ignore my inquiry.

Join the club. I have tried various approaches at buying domains owned by domainers. The majority don't even respond. The pricing on the rest is absolutely ridiculous on 99% of the domains. Three word .com that would be a nice to have, with only a couple of thousand monthly search volume, and you want $50,000? Yeah good luck with that! Maybe the lottery win will come in some day for you.

 

[DomainGist]

Join the club. I have tried various approaches at buying domains owned by domainers. The majority don't even respond. The pricing on the rest is absolutely ridiculous on 99% of the domains. Three word .com that would be a nice to have, with only a couple of thousand monthly search volume, and you want $50,000? Yeah good luck with that! Maybe the lottery win will come in some day for you.

Domainers see Mike M putting $$,$$$ bins on three world dot coms and everybody copies him, but they haven't got 350,000 lottery tickets like him.... law of averages dictates that this strategy will work better for him than it would somebody with a standard portfolio size.

Stick with dropping / expiring auctions, or post wanted threads on namepros and say "good two word dot coms, $1000 max" and see what hits your inbox?

 

[MapleDots]

Which domain?

As a professional courtesy, I will keep that to myself. I do not want to start a witch hunt or anything.

If the planets align, maybe, just maybe, the domainer might see this post.

 

[MapleDots]

How do you know he is a domainer?

Very few people would have an online form for domain inquiry that are not actually in the business.

 

[Galaxy Traveller]

I hope the domainer might see this post and reply.

 

[TestCase]

...That said, I was very interested in your domain and it is your loss not to have responded. As a domainer myself I feel this is very poor business management on your behalf....

I feel there are VERY few occasions where an "FU" is warranted. (https://www.namepros.com/threads/which-works-better-selling-nice-or-arrogant.1025066/#post-6520695)

But honestly, the above quoted portion of your email strikes me personally as being pretty condescending. Had you sent this email to me I wouldn't have even given you the courtesy of a "thanks, but no thanks" response.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Dave]

Stick with dropping / expiring auctions, or post wanted threads on namepros and say "good two word dot coms, $1000 max" and see what hits your inbox?

Tried that before. I once asked for ANIMAL + COLOUR combinations (so RedRooster.com, BlueBird.com as examples) and people were sending me numerics, brandable 5-6L's, random EMD's that had nothing to do with colours or animals.

I also asked for one word .tv's once and was being sent .ws and .org domains. Annoying my inbox got full with junk like this and the rare decent stuff was hard to filter or didn't even reach my inbox.

 

[karmaco]

You did well until the last few sentences. Nobody likes to be lectured by strangers or friends.

 

[MapleDots]

I feel there are VERY few occasions where an "FU" is warranted. (https://www.namepros.com/threads/which-works-better-selling-nice-or-arrogant.1025066/#post-6520695)

But honestly, the above quoted portion of your email strikes me personally as being pretty condescending. Had you sent this email to me I wouldn't have even given you the courtesy of a "thanks, but no thanks" response.

Just my 2 cents.

I would have said the same to a car salesman and complained to his manager had he not responded to two inquiries to purchase. What would the manager have said to the employee.

What I said was accurate.... it is poor business management to ignore two inquires from the same person. That shows the person is interested, why not just engage?

 

[Cal2]

But honestly, the above quoted portion of your email strikes me personally as being pretty condescending. Had you sent this email to me I wouldn't have even given you the courtesy of a "thanks, but no thanks" response.

Agree.

Some people don't like to negotiate, or are as serious about domaining as others. Maybe it's the case of some of those who didn't reply. How about something more like "Still interested in X domain. I'd be willing to pay X $. If interested, let me know."

 

[MapleDots]

Well you did well until the last few sentences. Nobody likes to be lectured by strangers or friends.

True but I had to show him it was an error of judgement and that I was very interested. If he set his personal feelings aside he could still have done business.

That again shows a poor business strategy.

 

[MapleDots]

Agree.

Some people don't like to negotiate, or are as serious about domaining as others. Maybe it's the case of some of those who didn't reply. How about something more like "Still interested in X domain. I'd be willing to pay X $. If interested, let me know."

Did that with my second inquiry

 

[DomainGist]

Those domainers SHOULD have given you the courtesy of a reply.

But the reality is that as soon as they know that you are somebody looking for 'reseller' prices they probably see you as a dead lead immediately, they want an end user price.

In all honesty the only ones who will reply are those who have a lot of renewals coming up and haven't had a sale for a while....

.... anybody with plenty of cash + patience is probably going to ignore somebody looking for a reseller prices.

ps. There is a hint of irony about your post here, because the other day you wrote a thread about being suspicious of a potential buyer because they may be a "domainer" who has an end user lined up.

But then get surprised when other domainers don't treat you kindly when you tell them you are a domainer? You don't think they may not be wondering the same about you?

Best course of action is to simply not identify yourself as a domainer. If a domainer wants to sell their domains at reseller prices then they'd bang them on namepros with the 'make offer' flare?

The 'make offer' threads on namepros and the expiring auctions are probably the best place to find domains at reseller prices. Landing pages are for end users.

 

[MapleDots]

Also don't forget

I did purchase one of the domains so he was dealing with a REAL buyer.

 

[MapleDots]

Those domainers SHOULD have given you the courtesy of a reply.

But the reality is that as soon as they know that you are somebody looking for 'reseller' prices they probably see you as a dead lead immediately, they want an end user price.

In all honesty the only ones who will reply are those who have a lot of renewals coming up and haven't had a sale for a while....

.... anybody with plenty of cash + patience is probably going to ignore somebody looking for a reseller prices.

ps. There is a hint of irony about your post here, because the other day you wrote a thread about being suspicious of a potential buyer because they may be a "domainer" who has an end user lined up.

But then get surprised when other domainers don't treat you kindly when you tell them you are a domainer? You don't think they may not be wondering the same about you?

Best course of action is to simply not identify yourself as a domainer. If a domainer wants to sell their domains at reseller prices then they'd bang them on namepros with the 'make offer' flare?

I only mentioned I was a domainer in the 3rd response when I terminated the process.

 

[GeorgeK]

Granted I did not open with a price, I always ask what are you looking to get for the domain. I end by saying I am very interested and please do not ignore my inquiry

See my post at:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/words-and-phrases-not-to-put-into-a-domain-name-inquiry.1057010/

saying "I am very interested" is akin to saying "I'm a serious buyer" and "please do not ignore my inquiry" is akin to saying "this email is not spam".

Inquiries need to stand out from the crowd of lowballers, spammers, etc. these days. One can demonstrate that one is "very interested" by putting in a serious offer from the start. Without that, the recipient will think "Yeah, this guy is sooooooooo interested, that he didn't bother to even make an offer. (and roll their eyes)" Anyone can claim they're "very interested." Put yourself in the shoes of the domain owner, who is saying to himself/herself "So what? What's in it for me? Show me the money!"

Otherwise, sophisticated people will interpret the email as being a fishing expedition, being sent to 10,000 other people.

If one owns multiple domains of a certain class (e.g. 3 digit .com, 3 letter .coms, one-word .com, etc.), one can see these fishing expeditions in real-time, as an identical email will come for each and every one of those domains simultaneously.

 

[Silentptnr]

If I tell a salesperson in a store that I am interested buying and have some questions, and they don't provide prompt, professional and courteous service, I just leave. Their loss.

I usually don't take time to school them on customer service. They learn on their own by not selling.

The first FU to you was them not responding at all. I would walk away at that point.

 

[Rothex]

I made a number of inquiries on domain names lately and am still shocked how many domainers do not respond to an inquiry. Granted I did not open with a price, I always ask what are you looking to get for the domain. I end by saying I am very interested and please do not ignore my inquiry.

In the last month I have sent 6 inquiries and received only two responses and one response ended in a sale. So from 6 domains one was what I would call a great transaction and the other one at least an attempt for a sale.

That said, I have a tendency to send the inquiry at least twice and this month I send the following to 4 of my inquiries. that failed to respond.

Hello. I made several attempts to start dialogue to purchase domain.com and have received no response from you. I stated both times that I was very interested in the domain and would appreciate either a call or email back. At this point I will terminate any negotiation on this domain and wish you well in your endeavors. That said, I was very interested in your domain and it is your loss not to have responded. As a domainer myself I feel this is very poor business management on your behalf.

Got one response back from a domainer

Was two words

Guess what they were?

"F*ck You"

Wow.... just wow

What type of response were you expecting with that second email? I can understand how you might feel, but what's really the purpose of following up in that way. You don't know the owners situation or plans and just as @DomainGist stated, how do you know they're even a domainer. Did they have sales landers or did you do a whois lookup to get their contact info? They may have no intentions on selling and therefore are less likely to respond. To be honest, if I received a follow up email like that from someone it would tick me off as well. Don't waste your effort, move on, and find a different domain to try and purchase.

 

[MapleDots]

Put yourself in the shoes of the domain owner, who is saying to himself/herself "So what? What's in it for me? Show me the money!"

Thank you George...

I am in his shoes and I DO respond to all inquiries.
I was a serious buyer because I acquired one of the domains from a responsive domainer.

 

[DomainGist]

Tried that before. I once asked for ANIMAL + COLOUR combinations (so RedRooster.com, BlueBird.com as examples) and people were sending me numerics, brandable 5-6L's, random EMD's that had nothing to do with colours or animals.

I also asked for one word .tv's once and was being sent .ws and .org domains. Annoying my inbox got full with junk like this and the rare decent stuff was hard to filter or didn't even reach my inbox.

It is definitely frustrating, but you can post the thread for 48 hours.... the close + delete it, and then trawl through the responses in your own time and reply to any which are of interest.

I had about 200 messages in 24 hours to a thread asking for pronounceable 5 L's.... and got an annoyingly large number of people sending messages which started with "I know these are 6 letter domains, but....", if I wanted 6 letter I would have asked for them!

The most annoying thing is the people who follow up with "so do you want it", before you've even reached their message, don't think people realise just how many responses these threads get.

 

[MapleDots]

What type of response were you expecting with that second email?

That was my 3rd inquiry to him, I was professional twice and asked him to contact me. Both times I reiterated I was seriously interested in acquiring the domain.