Holo vs VR vs MR vs AR vs any other reality (All realities)

[VRdommy]

Intel Project Alloy - A Must Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108...first-open-source-third-party-vr-headset.html

The pace of change with new VR product designs is about to increase exponentially.
And while this is one thing to move that along, it's not the only thing.

...MORE...
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-project-alloy-vr-ar-merged-reality

 

[cordoba]

This raises the bar really high for Apple, which is good, because they have this reputation of being the best and now there's a new contender, forcing them to be even more innovative. Without ML's unique light field technology, I wonder how they will compete though....

Well I guess that's why Apple bought a Light Field company recently.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...-ar-experience-for-macs-idevices-headset.html

If it wan't for Light Field technology, I doubt if anybody would be talking about either VR or AR. I think right from the start, since Facebook bought Oculus, everybody has had the realization that Light Field is the eventual game changer and the point when (implemented well) these immersive techs will go mainstream and turn into trillion dollar industries.

 

[VRdommy]

I have to admit. I'm kinda in love with ML's headset. It looks kinda like a bug faced gadget from a super hero movie, but after reading about what I'm looking at and how it works, I'm seeing many more applications than what today's headsets of any reality can do. It's now currently the most advanced and impressive headset to go on the market, at least in creator edition, which is a huge step forward this early in development of immersive technologies in general. I'm very impressed. It's kinda ugly, but this is the first version. Considering where we are, this is amazing. What their headset can do is f*cking amazing from what I've been reading....

For example, this is the first AR headset that allows you to see graphics that are not transparent. You can't see through the projections. That is beautiful...and Earth shaking. The future is now! This is it folks. Let the hype machine start rolling because this is hype worthy progress...

This raises the bar really high for Apple, which is good, because they have this reputation of being the best and now there's a new contender, forcing them to be even more innovative. Without ML's unique light field technology, I wonder how they will compete though....

It has been known that they have the best 'retina projector' in the industry and that method is not unique to ML, but they are the only one going public with their work.
That makes it probably the best publicized imaging system.
The image is fed from the edge of the lens and reflected to the eye from the outer curve of the lens.
But I would not count on 'not fully transparent' unless you are in lower light levels. Not a sunny day.
But they are not the only folks that have been working on the same. Just the most famous by choice.

My only problem with them is the hype of 'size, cost and timeline'.
It's a pretty big deal if they can deliver that quality in a everyday wearable package at a cost under $2K

And I'm figuring that they are using a external pack for much of the electronics/battery.
That gets the heat and battery away from the head for a lighter more comfy experience.
I'm willing to bet that the looks of this are a model target and not a actual working device until we see someone try one on.
Apple's will likely be a 'plug-in' device to it's iPhone X and will be much less expensive since most already own half the required hardware. But perhaps a wireless option to it that I doubt because of battery drain.

Personally, I find this the biggest game changer over the next year (actually delivered at a affordable cost)
https://www.roadtovr.com/pimax-completes-15m-series-funding-round/
This and Oculus GO. Beating the cost/quality on the high and low ends.

 

[Winfluence]

$1.9 billion later, Magic Leap's futuristic headset has the same problem as Microsoft's HoloLens

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/m...facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-ti&r=US&IR=T

The take away is the obvious though:

"According to the Rolling Stone piece, future versions of Magic Leap's headset "significantly expands the field of view." When that future comes, augmented-reality products will do a much better job of delivering what they promise"

 

[VRdommy]

$1.9 billion later, Magic Leap's futuristic headset has the same problem as Microsoft's HoloLens

http://nordic.businessinsider.com/m...facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-ti&r=US&IR=T

The take away is the obvious though:

"According to the Rolling Stone piece, future versions of Magic Leap's headset "significantly expands the field of view." When that future comes, augmented-reality products will do a much better job of delivering what they promise"

The reason the FOV is a problem for most all of them (at a cost factor anyway) is because of eye movement.
If your eyes were stationary (always looking ahead) it would not be as much a problem.
The images are 'projections' reflecting off a transparent surface at precise angles.
It is a problem to get to the retina at all angles the eye may look.
Everyone would have the same issue. Microsoft is getting around it with double the FOV by using 2 projectors per eye that are synchronized. That may be tougher to do than we might think.
Requires some very exact manufacturing processes.
It all adds to the cost.
Somehow, I always thought they would get around this problem with very precise eye tracking.

 

[Winfluence]

I like the sound of this (see interview below). Abovitz has a different way of pitching. We know the price tag will not look nice to most consumers, but the average multimedia "creator" tends to be more prepared to drop 2 to 4 grand for a high performance workstation. If the headset is within that range it should good!

____________

GamesBeat: Does a consumer version follow after the Magic Leap One at some expected point in time?

Abovitz: "We call Magic Leap One a 'creator edition.' I think there’s a sea change happening in the idea of what is a creator and what is a consumer. In Magic Leap, you’re really actively creating with the computer. It’s not so much for passivity, the idea of just being a passive consumer of stuff. I think you’re going to see a blend with most people – not just people who are developers or artists, but a lot of people will become co-creators in some way. I think it actively inspires you to be part creator and part consumer.

That’s the blend for us, for all time. We’re trying to make a device that inspires people to be creative and become part of a much wider creative community. Every person has creative potential. We’re not releasing a dev kit. We want to inspire people who are creative, whether you’re a writer, a poet, an artist, a hardcore coder. We want to move people out of being passive consumers.

That doesn’t mean people won’t consume on it. But the notion of sitting there and just passively receiving, where I don’t engage and I don’t create myself—our idea of computing almost wants you to co-create, if that makes sense."

https://uploadvr.com/magic-leap-ceo-interview-indoor-augmented-reality-is-the-first-step/

 

[xr reality]

 

[Winfluence]

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I think it is safe to say that XR is a common, standard terminology now...internationally. But it's just that now there needs to be more consistency with how it is used and what it means exactly. I predict that less and less people will be using the terms "extended reality" and "cross reality" over time, but that could be just wishful thinking. One thing's for sure - the dev community absolutely hates extended reality and cross reality. They mostly like X as a variable and because developers have a lot of pull in how things are named in the long run, this is where I get my prediction from.

 

[Elad n]

Well I guess that's why Apple bought a Light Field company recently.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...-ar-experience-for-macs-idevices-headset.html

If it wan't for Light Field technology, I doubt if anybody would be talking about either VR or AR. I think right from the start, since Facebook bought Oculus, everybody has had the realization that Light Field is the eventual game changer and the point when (implemented well) these immersive techs will go mainstream and turn into trillion dollar industries.

Now question is if Lightfield will be out to the light . Most say no, i still believe and hold some relevant beasts.

 

[Winfluence]

Now question is if Lightfield will be out to the light . Most say no, i still believe and hold some relevant beasts.

The idea is not easy to grasp, so forget about it being a consumer sales terminology. So with that out of the way, you have to ask yourself. What kind of company would NEED to use the term Light Field in their marketing. Now that you've narrowed it down, let's narrow it down even further. Out of that very small handful of companies that would use the term in their marketing, how many of them would already have their own brand. And how many of those lightfield companies only provide light field technology and nothing else? I ask because if you provide more than that, why would a company limit it's self with a lightfield domain??

It's a specific kind of display that is only part of a larger device. Many manufacturers doing B2B don't take marketing very seriously either and prefer to market from their already existing websites...

Just things to think about, if you haven't already. This is why I don't bother with sub-technical terminology domains anymore and the sales figures prove that these kinds of domains are mostly unneeded...

Remember, just because a technological terminology is relevant, it doesn't mean that a company could or would even want to use it. There are some exceptions of course, like if you owned LightField dot com...because it's the name of the tech and it's short and possibly even brandable.

 

[Elad n]

The idea is not easy to grasp, so forget about it being a consumer sales terminology. So with that out of the way, you have to ask yourself. What kind of company would NEED to use the term Light Field in their marketing. Now that you've narrowed it down, let's narrow it down even further. Out of that very small handful of companies that would use the term in their marketing, how many of them would already have their own brand. And how many of those lightfield companies only provide light field technology and nothing else? I ask because if you provide more than that, why would a company limit it's self with a lightfield domain??

It's a specific kind of display that is only part of a larger device. Many manufacturers doing B2B don't take marketing very seriously either and prefer to market from their already existing websites...

Just things to think about, if you haven't already. This is why I don't bother with sub-technical terminology domains anymore and the sales figures prove that these kinds of domains are mostly unneeded...

Remember, just because a technological terminology is relevant, it doesn't mean that a company could or would even want to use it. There are some exceptions of course, like if you owned LightField dot com...because it's the name of the tech and it's short and possibly even brandable.

All makes sense i follow hunches till it hurts lol, got a small enough folio now so it doesn't hurt anymore.. Shrinking it by the day.

 

[Winfluence]

All makes sense i follow hunches till it hurts lol, got a small enough folio now so it doesn't hurt anymore.. Shrinking it by the day.

I know what you mean. Hunches are unfortunately a major part of my assessment process as well. I guess it's been working for me, to an extent, along with proper research of course...

 

[Pazu]

lightfieldxr and xrlightfield in .com

 

[xr reality]

Goes over 1 hour Great talk on future of ar / vr from google / unity etc

 

[VRdommy]

I am surprised that a bunch of folks have not reg'd a bunch of 'LightWear' names despite any TM.
Of course, they probably have but nobody is announcing it.
LOL

 

[xr reality]

https://pokemongolive.com/en/post/arplus

 

[Winfluence]

I am surprised that a bunch of folks have not reg'd a bunch of 'LightWear' names despite any TM.
Of course, they probably have but nobody is announcing it.
LOL

Staying clear of that kind of nonsense myself, but I'm also pretty sure it's happening lol.

 

[NamesBond]

https://www.rt.com/usa/413383-vr-robot-control-brown/



Anyone have vr robot names? Best related I have is VRTelepresence com

Errrrr... Does this count... VR Robot (PS -Vrobot sold for @11k by an NPer about 3 years ago..)

I am surprised that a bunch of folks have not reg'd a bunch of 'LightWear' names despite any TM.
Of course, they probably have but nobody is announcing it.
LOL

From a quick check, somebody's buying some... Also, LightWear.com domain is owned by a different company - The buy-out might make them rich!

 

[Together4Forever]

The idea is not easy to grasp, so forget about it being a consumer sales terminology. So with that out of the way, you have to ask yourself. What kind of company would NEED to use the term Light Field in their marketing. Now that you've narrowed it down, let's narrow it down even further. Out of that very small handful of companies that would use the term in their marketing, how many of them would already have their own brand. And how many of those lightfield companies only provide light field technology and nothing else? I ask because if you provide more than that, why would a company limit it's self with a lightfield domain??

It's a specific kind of display that is only part of a larger device. Many manufacturers doing B2B don't take marketing very seriously either and prefer to market from their already existing websites...

Just things to think about, if you haven't already. This is why I don't bother with sub-technical terminology domains anymore and the sales figures prove that these kinds of domains are mostly unneeded...

Remember, just because a technological terminology is relevant, it doesn't mean that a company could or would even want to use it. There are some exceptions of course, like if you owned LightField dot com...because it's the name of the tech and it's short and possibly even brandable.

Don’t own Lightfield.com but do own Lightfield.net

 

[VRdommy]

I have been testing the water @namesilo with their 'payment plan sales' for the last year they have been doing it. For some of you who have names there, I think you should too.
I remember 10 years ago when 'LeaseThis' did the same but I never had much success but my names were not of the quality required then as well as the service not very well known.
But here is a name registrar doing it where you can put the info and option right on the landing page. ...Very effective.

So, what I have found and with other careful considerations, is that for most names that you have expectations under $2500 where the name is likely to be a low end user like a blog or a small organization or a small start-up, these payment plans do indeed make the sale.

While I'm not here to sell you the service, I did want to make you aware of it.
Perhaps it will help some. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Understanding that some of you not in the US may have different rules ???
So just read on it well before jumping in.

 

[Winfluence]

Sometimes I don't know if I'm just collecting domains for the enjoyment or actually investing... Could be a little of both because I do make my money back each year.

I recently hand registered the domains below. These were recently dropped apparently. Hope I'm not wasting my money, but given how massive the English casino industry is I don't think they're bad investments, especially if sold together as a package.

VirtualRealityCasino - co.uk
AugmentedRealityCasino - co.uk
MixedRealityCasino - co.uk

(I'm not a MR fan, but I got the last one to complete the package)

 

[xr reality]

 

[VRdommy]

xmas has not quite gone by yet and we are already talking CES 2018 !
...just a few weeks away mind you.
YI got a jump on the competition of announcements...
https://www.i4u.com/2017/12/126489/ces-2018-yi-technology-unveils-new-ai-and-vr-cameras

The latest promo from Haptx

...And, something I find as important for growth for this new media...
https://www.vrfocus.com/2017/12/matterport-team-with-rooomy-to-develop-virtual-housing-spaces/

Happy Holidays !

 

[Winfluence]

Yup!

 

[Winfluence]

Mmm...

 

[VRdommy]

Mmm...

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All of that was in the press release.. or is there something else new I'm missing ?