The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[AGermanGuy]

Troll, why don't you check out working conditions anywhere in America verse the rest of the world. You know nothing, you simply regurgitate left wing socialist propaganda as fact. Interesting this last week that China had to close 2,000 plants for a week because of the unhealthy smog hanging over the region.

Comparing China to America... Yeah... You know, I could also say Germany is better versus everyone else in the world if I compare Germany and Somalia...

You know, why dont you compare American Workers Rights to western european countries like Germany or France?

 

[AGermanGuy]

The truck driver that rammed a lorry into a Christmas market in Berlin, killing 12 and injuring 50, came to Germany as an asylum seeker in 2015.

The bastard had initially come into Italy illegally from Tunisia, spent 4 years in an Italian jail for burning down a school and then went to Germany, where Mama Merkel welcomed him with open arms.

Merkel brought this and other killers to her country. She said "we can do it". Time to kick Merkel out on the next elections and send her on a prolonged holiday to a Muslim country.

And time to send all these invaders back to where they came from and let them blow themselves up to smithereens, since that's what they love doing.

Lots of alarm bells were ringing regarding this bastard, but German law makers were just too worried about his human rights.

I live in Berlin, close to where that shit happened.

And I still support Refugees. Why? Because if the refugees were not here ISIS would send them via other ways into germany.

I hope that we get even more refugees, so more of you guys stay out.

 

[sofiapartner]

What?

 

[Internet.Domains]

I live in Berlin, close to where that sh*t happened.

And I still support Refugees. Why? Because if the refugees were not here ISIS would send them via other ways into germany.

I hope that we get even more refugees, so more of you guys stay out.

If the real problems were actually solved, or even addressed, there would be no refugees. If Merkel and/or Obama actually took care of the real problems there would be no refugees. Families could stay together in their homeland where they want to be. Splitting up families and sending them to foreign lands is not the solution and absolutely not the definition of compassion..... True compassion would be doing everything possible to keep families together in their home country, where they want to be.......

 

[sofiapartner]

AGermanGuy, you can calm down. Nobody wants to go to Germany anymore. I mean nobody white, christian, working, civilized person. Otherwise you will have many more from your favourites. Good luck.

 

[iowadawg]

One thing to remember here, while we may disagree, NAME CALLING IS NOT CALLED FOR!!!!!

Because the German government is not wanting information about rapes, etal put on national tv and on the newspapers there in Germany.
But I guess you are saying the rapes, etal that happened in Cologne, the government official's daughter who was raped and killed?
Did not happen????

 

[GILSAN]

AGermanGuy, you can calm down. Nobody wants to go to Germany anymore. I mean nobody white, christian, working, civilized person. Otherwise you will have many more from your favourites. Good luck.

Some people don't even realize that they're shooting themselves on the foot...

 

[GILSAN]

One thing to remember here, while we may disagree, NAME CALLING IS NOT CALLED FOR!!!!!

Because the German government is not wanting information about rapes, etal put on national tv and on the newspapers there in Germany.
But I guess you are saying the rapes, etal that happened in Cologne, the government official's daughter who was raped and killed?
Did not happen????

German Politician Prevented Police Sharing Image of Christmas Market Attacker ‘to Prevent Racism’
German police and judiciary have accused Hamburg Justice Minister Till Steffen of delaying the release of pictures of the Christmas market attacker Anis Amri because he was worried about provoking “racist” comments on Facebook.

Green Party politician Steffen cited “privacy concerns” when he initially prevented law enforcers from releasing pictures of Anis Amri.

However, it has been claimed by members of the judiciary and the police that Steffen, who is the head of the judicial authority in Hamburg, denied the release of images of Amri because he was concerned it would incite racial hatred.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-nps-official-usa-political-thread.764342/page-384#post-5903809

Even German newspapers have to report these news.
http://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg...bringt-till-steffen-in-not-49464306.bild.html

 

[N-A]

Because if the refugees were not here ISIS would send them via other ways into germany.

Not if you had... a wall.

I hope that we get even more refugees, so more of you guys stay out.

You're more than welcome to take them all. In fact, I encourage it; I don't want the same problems caused by refugees to happen in America as those seen in Germany. Just don't call US to help your Crusades when the time comes.

 

[Internet.Domains]

At the rate Germany is going they will need the help of the U.S....again...Just like they did in WW2.

 

[DT13]

USA is the cause of the conflict in syria, supporting the rebels to fight against assad. first they destroy iraq and afghanistan and now syria. the give the rebels hoop and now the let them deal with the Russians.
If there was oil in syria things would be different.

 

[DT13]

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[Kate]

http://www.prisonstudies.org/highest-to-lowest/prison-population-total?field_region_taxonomy_tid=All

 

[N-A]

Show attachment 45648
http://www.prisonstudies.org/highest-to-lowest/prison-population-total?field_region_taxonomy_tid=All

Said it once. Will say it again.

Prison reform in America is a must. When you put something that the government ought to have 100% control over into privatized greedy capitalistic/lobbyist hands, you're going to cause those numbers to never decline, rather, the opposite... no matter what rehabilitation programs you implement for prisoners while in prison. Those cells are going to be filled because there are quotas that must be met by contracts. And, if they're not filled, the state will pay.

So, why not throw someone in there for a seemingly meaningless petty crime? Maybe it'd do 'em some good, right? I don't think so. Maybe to make the public feel more at peace?

 

[N-A]

For @Kate

 

[iowadawg]

There are a lot of crimes that should be decriminalized for sure.
Like all the possession of drugs, blah blah blha....
And if they released all those in prison for the above, should would help on the population.

Yes, I have always said, wtf is up with the USA invading countries like iraq, afghanistan, and go for regime change in egypt, syria, libya, etal.
I blame all those who want war for whatever reason.

 

[AGermanGuy]

If the real problems were actually solved, or even addressed, there would be no refugees. If Merkel and/or Obama actually took care of the real problems there would be no refugees. Families could stay together in their homeland where they want to be. Splitting up families and sending them to foreign lands is not the solution and absolutely not the definition of compassion..... True compassion would be doing everything possible to keep families together in their home country, where they want to be.......

I have to agree with you on this. We need to adress the problems in their home countries.

But you know why the middle east is such a shithole? Because of the US.

AGermanGuy, you can calm down. Nobody wants to go to Germany anymore. I mean nobody white, christian, working, civilized person. Otherwise you will have many more from your favourites. Good luck.

Should I cry now? I do not care. I do not need white christian people here. Why? Because other than you, I also value the people high that are not white and christian.

At the rate Germany is going they will need the help of the U.S....again...Just like they did in WW2.

Because the US helped Germany in WW2, right... Or if you mean Europe is going to need help from you... well, we dont. Combined the EU has enough troops to defend against Russia and we have our own nukes. So yeah, we do not need you here. In fact, we do not want you here. Could you pretty please abandon your drone warfare base in Germany? we do not want to support your killing of innocent people in foreign countries that you havent even declared war on.

Otherwise, have a good day!

 

[AGermanGuy]

There are a lot of crimes that should be decriminalized for sure.
Like all the possession of drugs, blah blah blha....
And if they released all those in prison for the above, should would help on the population.

Yes, I have always said, wtf is up with the USA invading countries like iraq, afghanistan, and go for regime change in egypt, syria, libya, etal.
I blame all those who want war for whatever reason.

In the 80s (or was it the 70s? anyways..) America changed the regime in democratically elected south american countries to dictatorships... kinda hypocritical of someone who always says he is the defender of freedom and democracy...

 

[iowadawg]

Well, you want history?
And you call us hyprocrites?
You don't like white people?
Geesh, you really do sound like this guy called Adolph.
Heck you probably have a copy of his book and read it daily, before you read the koran.
You are nothing in the greater scheme of Germany being destroyed by the vermin you so love.

 

[Kate]

I find that the constant, hateful refugee-bashing is sickening and unworthy of a democratic nation.

First of all, 'refugees' who come to commit acts of terrorism are not refugees by definition. They are infiltrated immigrants. They never were refugees to begin with. People fleeing war do not deserve to be persecuted because of terrorists.

The idea that Germany is being punished for being too open and tolerant is a twisted one.

Take for instance France, a country that is much much less welcoming toward refugees. It has suffered terrorist attacks too. In fact, it's been hit more badly than Germany. Note that some of the attacks were carried out by estranged Belgian/French nationals. Home-grown terrorists. It's not even foreign fighters coming from some war zone far away.

By the way, the US has been hit by Isis too (eg Orlando nightclub shooting). Do they take a lot of Syrian refugees in the US ? They don't.
On the other hand, more than one million Syrian have fled to Lebanon and now make up 20%+ of the population, which is a huge burden for a small, fragile country. They don't make the headlines but they sure have enough problems.

In short, for those who are too lazy to read or think: there is no correlation between refugees and terrorism. (Or put it differently: intolerance does not pay and doesn't make you safer. There is no reward for racism).

Terrorists come and go, either through official channels and border crossings, or stealthily (when they are already known and flagged as a security risks). They always have traveled in and out. Current streams of refugees do not change the fact. Reinstating national borders would not help either. Achieving secure borders is an awfully expensive endeavor and would amount to building a new Iron curtain (and a radically different society).

However, one thing that could reasonably be argued is that the large influx of refugees makes it difficult/impossible to vet each candidate for possible security risks. That wouldn't necessarily help spot and defeat terrorists though. Attackers were already known to the authorities weren't they.

Bottom line, what Isis is trying to do is foster fear and hatred and destroy social consensus.
I have to say they are doing a good job. Racists and citizens with fascistic leanings are now feeling more confident and getting bolder by the day (racists are always looking for excuses to justify their hatred). Sadly they are just playing Isis' game. Extremists of either side are pursuing the same aim by different means. The aim is to destroy our societies and our democratic values.

Terrorism is not a new phenomenon. We have experienced it over the past decades but today people are hysteric and willing to relinquish all their freedoms and live in a police state for what ? For an illusion of security. Why do we allow this to happen ? Why ?

If you no longer believe in your own values then yes you have a problem. And the terrorists have won. When you stoop to their level, they win too.
When you stand up for your rights, for freedom, for democracy, for tolerance and justice, they lose and you win.
It's up to you.
But there is no easy path. There is a painful path and there is a worse one.

 

[GILSAN]

^^^ Some people live in a world of fantasy

 

[GILSAN]

This is what the President of CAIR (Council on American–Islamic Relations) said...

I hope Donald Trump puts this organization in the Terrorist List, which is exactly what it is.

 

[GILSAN]

800,000 illegal aliens have received driver's licenses in California, in the past 2 years.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...immigrants-10814529.php?cmpid=twitter-premium

That makes them eligible to vote... right?

 

[iowadawg]

By Kalifornia law, yes....
Federal law is a bit hazy...
The idiot from cair deleted that tweet and then tweeted out a quasi apology.
Like anyone with more than 2 brains cells would believe him.

France...where many cities and towns have no christmas trees, no nativity scenes...
where churches banned christmas displays and music...
For fear of moslems being offended, which they perpetually are....

But the head in the sand goody two shoe liberals see not a problem with refugees and come up with excuses like blaming the christians for inflaming the moslems or some such crap.

 

[mr-x]

Well, you want history?
And you call us hyprocrites?
You don't like white people?
Geesh, you really do sound like this guy called Adolph.
Heck you probably have a copy of his book and read it daily, before you read the koran.
You are nothing in the greater scheme of Germany being destroyed by the vermin you so love.

If I remember correctly, the people @AGermanGuy is hoping will move to Germany adore Adolf and their homelands fought on his side in WW2.

Like I said before, I'm cool with Germany until they start rounding people up again.