new gtlds New gTLDs are DEAD!! Frank Schilling drops 230,000 new gTLD domains

[ksusha64]

Mike Berkens wrote a great article:

Frank Schilling’s North Sound Names Starts Deleting Its 230,000 Uniregistry Domains
http://www.thedomains.com/2016/09/1...arts-deleting-its-230000-uniregistry-domains/

Guy who's pushing new gtlds giving up on it? How many names u guys dropped? Anyone still believes in it?

 

[cyborg1960]

sh$t

 

[GoKaizen]

 

[cyborg1960]

BTW I tend in premium

 

[mad409]

If you follow cartoons so be it, I don't..

 

[GoKaizen]

@Eric Lyon makes great comics, I'm happy to share them.

http://domaincomics.com

 

[ZapNano]

I like comics/cartoons, because they are just being sensitive funny
But I noticed the comics looks older and countryish. @Eric Lyon maybe your next episode would be younger looking cartoons and more looking up beat!

 

[GoKaizen]

https://www.namepros.com/blog/expert-exchange-an-interview-with-frank-schilling.974212/

@James Iles

 

[MSKD]

Mike Berkens wrote a great article:

Frank Schilling’s North Sound Names Starts Deleting Its 230,000 Uniregistry Domains
http://www.thedomains.com/2016/09/1...arts-deleting-its-230000-uniregistry-domains/

Guy who's pushing new gtlds giving up on it? How many names u guys dropped? Anyone still believes in it?

@ksusha64 ,
According to me thats not 100% true as any new gTLDs needs time to be familiar in market to a real end users...
So, for fome popular words, new ext.s will surely make profit now or later.

 

[GoKaizen]

The only people benefitting from ngtlds - icann, registries, and registrars. Frank Schilling is both a registry and registrar. He doesn't want to pay for these and hopes to get the public to buy.

.tattoo is doing quite poorly, only 2000 regs.

https://namestat.org/tattoo

Collectively "ICANT" has made $500 + million on new gtlds. What did they do with all that money?

 

[Domain Galleria]

The only people benefitting from ngtlds - icann, registries, and registrars. Frank Schilling is both a registry and registrar. He doesn't want to pay for these and hopes to get the public to buy.

.tattoo is doing quite poorly, only 2000 regs.

https://namestat.org/tattoo

Collectively "ICANT" has made $500 + million on new gtlds. What did they do with all that money?

I am even surprised the have up to that number.

 

[Brands.International]

The only people benefitting from ngtlds - icann, registries, and registrars. Frank Schilling is both a registry and registrar. He doesn't want to pay for these and hopes to get the public to buy.

.tattoo is doing quite poorly, only 2000 regs.

https://namestat.org/tattoo

Collectively "ICANT" has made $500 + million on new gtlds. What did they do with all that money?

But what would you expect from .TATTOO? You can have only limited number of great keywords to go with the extension, like Super.Tattoo, Cool.Tattoo, Hot.Tattoo and maybe 100-200 more. Then, of course, you might have geo indicating keywords, like London.Tattoo, NYC.Tattoo, etc. And that is it..so 2000 regs can not be considered poor performance for this TLD, it is exactly right for TLD which is suitable only for very narrow business niche..

You said only ICANN, registries and registrars benefits from new gTLDs..this is absolutely not true, as you forgot to mention most important group which benefit from them : END USERS. Now they can truly choose names which are suitable for their businesses, personal pages, internet activities. In the previous era, they had to choose under optimal names from .COM or .NET, unless they had huge budgets.

 

[GoKaizen]

Extensions will be shutdown because operators will go bankrupt or not want to continue with an ngtld.

It doesn't make sense to continue operating extensions you are losing money on. The few people that built sites on these businesses will feel be hurt.

 

[Brands.International]

Extensions will be shutdown because operators will go bankrupt or not want to continue with an ngtld.

It doesn't make sense to continue operating extensions you are losing money on. The few people that built sites on these businesses will feel be hurt.

This is not true and it was broadly discussed on page 16 of this tread

For example .TATTOO belongs to operator which has another 22 TLDs at the moment, so no way of shutdown one of them because of "we do not want to operate it anymore"..once they paid initial auction fee to ICANN, they can apply economy of scales as it is clear for everyone that some of TLDs will make more money, and some of them will make less money. Only way I can imagine TLD operator goes down is small company which maybe operates 1 TLD..and even in this case there is well defined process of ICANN which will ensure minimum impact on end user, if any.

 

[Kate]

2000 regs is not a lot but could be profitable. They are priced at $32.99 at Dynadot. So it can rake in 60K/year in revenue. But normally there will be fees to be paid to icann every year.
They could still be profitable even with limited numbers but not hugely profitable. With dozens of lame extensions like this they can nonetheless make 6 figures in profit.
However that is assuming current interest levels remain at least steady. A big drop can change the outlook dramatically. These TLDs cannot be considered stable until they have survived a few renewal cycles.

 

[bmugford]

This is not true and it was broadly discussed on page 16 of this tread

For example .TATTOO belongs to operator which has another 22 TLDs at the moment, so no way of shutdown one of them because of "we do not want to operate it anymore"..once they paid initial auction fee to ICANN, they can apply economy of scales as it is clear for everyone that some of TLDs will make more money, and some of them will make less money. Only way I can imagine TLD operator goes down is small company which maybe operates 1 TLD..and even in this case there is well defined process of ICANN which will ensure minimum impact on end user, if any.

From Frank Schilling himself -

Schilling: registries could wind-down unprofitable gTLDs

Brad

 

[dordomai]

This is not true and it was broadly discussed on page 16 of this tread

For example .TATTOO belongs to operator which has another 22 TLDs at the moment, so no way of shutdown one of them because of "we do not want to operate it anymore"..once they paid initial auction fee to ICANN, they can apply economy of scales as it is clear for everyone that some of TLDs will make more money, and some of them will make less money. Only way I can imagine TLD operator goes down is small company which maybe operates 1 TLD..and even in this case there is well defined process of ICANN which will ensure minimum impact on end user, if any.

1. They will raise prices in some cases.
2. They will shut-down strings in some cases.
3. They will take back domains in some cases.

Why? Because they can.

 

[GoKaizen]

You might manage a small profit but you need to pay staff. We will see dwindling numbers, not rising numbers.

If/when Verisign releases .WEB, it's over for many new registries.

2000 regs is not a lot but could be profitable. They are priced at $32.99 at Dynadot. So it can rake in 60K/year in revenue. But normally there will be fees to be paid to icann every year.
They could still be profitable even with limited numbers but not hugely profitable. With dozens of lame extensions like this they can nonetheless make 6 figures in profit.
However that is assuming current interest levels remain at least steady. A big drop can change the outlook dramatically. These TLDs cannot be considered stable until they have survived a few renewal cycles.

We already have seen 1 and 3 too much. We will see 2 happening more soon.

1. They will raise prices in some cases.
2. They will shut-down strings in some cases.
3. They will take back domains in some cases.

Why? Because they can.

 

[davidthornton]

We already have seen 1 and 3 too much. We will see 2 happening more soon.

Since you claim to know it all, how soon?

 

[HotKey]

.tattoo is doing poorly? Ya gotta be kidding! What about .gripe? Don't tell me that's doing poorly too? This whole gTLD thing is so confusing. What to invest in, what to not. Good thing there's good people keeping everything in perspective on this thread.

 

[davidthornton]

.tattoo is doing poorly? Ya gotta be kidding! What about .gripe? Don't tell me that's doing poorly too? This whole gTLD thing is so confusing. What to invest in, what to not. Good thing there's good people keeping everything in perspective on this thread.

If it's too confusing for you my advice is that you shouldn't invest at all. Only invest in something you can comfortably justify to multiple intelligent people that you respect the opinion of, and who have an appreciation of this topic.

Nobody has to be familiar with every possible gTLD to understand combinations that make sense when used appropriately. Some here can't appear to cope with the fact that they can't ever hope to be familiar with them all so therefore believe they need to condemn the entire lot. That's fine with me but the mentality of this way of thinking is starting to get old.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

We think the way we think.
Sounds like you know it all.
Do you see a big move towards .tattoo .horse .etc?

 

[ZapNano]

Dat cut is bein lazy, get him a job.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

I just told her what you said. She is to wasted on catnip to do anything but bring mice in at night.

 

[ZapNano]

Yah, make sure she has enough food for the intire season.

 

[ZapNano]

Dah lazy cat...put her to work.