Discuss BrandBucket Rejects

[starizec]

My rejected names
R e c y c l i f y
S q u a d T a s k
F e a t f u l
E x c e s i o r

Any thoughts?

 

[Joe N]

Perhaps the "zoldout" rejection is a question of aesthetics. It doesn't look as nice as "Zmartly" and doesn't sound as nice coming out of the mouth.

Also, the application of Zmartly wouldn't really be restricted to any business or industry type... Zoldout would have a more narrow market of buyers.

 

[pokainc]

zmartly is a play on smartly which has a wide variety of venues potentially

zmarty is play on smarty which most of the time you only use it when you say smartypants..

when you say "zoldout" out loud.. you may think it's ZolledOut, or Zoledout or Zoldout or Zoldoubt, as opposed to soldout which inherently you know what the exact pattern is since it's a known term

 

[lock]

zoldout soldout either way nothing left to sell. Makes sense if no market.

 

[Domain1031]

Rejected ==> dedino - pronounced dead/dino or Dee/Dino also has meaning
in slavic language as a saying "it belongs to grandad" & geo location
End user: Game/Dev or cafe/resturant

 

[Justin Matmor]

Just wondering....

If you submit one domain name at a time would you have a higher success rate of being accepted?

 

[Justin Matmor]

after reviewing this thread i should say that i found that in 99% i agree with BB on their "rejects"
...what i keep continually being surprised by is approx. 80% of their "accepts"
how much do they sell in a year as a percentage of their whole inventory?
wondering if they earn more from listing + logo fees than from domain sales
"ok, we need to pay our office rent again so lets accept some 1,000 of random stuff to quickly raise $10,000 by the end of this month" sort of things?

I also agree with their rejects particularly majority of the ones that have been posted on this thread.

However there are thousands of names that are currently listed on BB...and I am very surprised they have been accepted.

Would love to present some names here and ask BB to explain why on earth they were accepted.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Would love to present some names here and ask BB to explain why on earth they were accepted.

A lot were accepted when BrandBucket allowed huge portfolios from invited sellers. When you're accepting thousands to beef up your marketplace, you don't care so much about the quality, but about the 1,000 brandables that somebody agreed to list exclusively with their marketplace. They did not pay $10,000 to have the domains published. This helps growth. Some of these domains are eventually dropped. I've picked up a few, and had them relisted for free. This is yet another way to avoid paying listing fee's. I wish I had the complete list of BB's inventory so I could monitor it for drops, but I'm not an insider. I have to use cached reports from DomainIQ to monitor NameServer changes to play this game.

I've also seen days where Michael Krell scrapes the lists of dropped BB domains, and registers several at a time. Don't believe me? Check any of the following domains. Notice the reg date, and compare it to an Archive.org screenshot date. You'll find the registered date is after BrandBuckets published date. All of the following domains were dropped (not sure when they dropped) and registered by Michael Krell in the same day.

None of the above domains have sold yet.

 

[Justin Matmor]

A lot were accepted when BrandBucket allowed huge portfolios from invited sellers. When you're accepting 1,000's to beef up your marketplace, you don't care so much about the quality, but about the 1,000 brandables that somebody agreed to list exclusively with their marketplace. They did not pay $10,000 to have the domains published. This helps growth. Some of these domains are eventually dropped. I've picked up a few, and had them relisted for free. This is yet another way to avoid paying listing fee's. I wish I had the complete list of BB's inventory so I could monitor it for drops, but I'm not an insider. I have to use cached reports from DomainIQ to monitor NameServer changes to play this game.

I've also seen days where Michael Krell scrapes the lists of dropped BB domains, and registers several in one da. Don't believe me? Check any of the following domains. Notice the reg data, and an Archive.org screenshot date. You'll find the registered date is after BrandBuckets published date. All of the following domains were dropped (not sure when they dropped) and registered by Michael Krell in the same day.

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None of the above domains have sold yet.

Some of these names sound/look ridiculously funny.

Once they are dropped (that is, no longer registered) but still listed for sale on BB mainly because the domain owner did not bother to advise BB, how do you move the name across to your account on BB without incurring a listing fee.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Once they are dropped (that is, no longer registered) but still listed for sale on BB mainly because the domain owner did not bother to advise BB, how do you move the name across to your account on BB without incurring a listing fee.

I'm not sure I understand your question.

These domains are automatically dropped from BrandBuckets live inventory when they are no longer forwarded for X amount of days.

Because they are lifetime listing fee's, no seller will have to repay for a listing fee. The work is done, there's no need to charge. This is why it's a bang for your buck to pick them up if you believe in BrandBucket. This way, you're only investing in domains, and not listing fee's.

You can transfer domains from one brandbucket account to another brandbucket account simply and manually using only the receiving accounts brandbucket email address. This is free. This is what made for an easy reseller market on NamePros.

Resellers hyped up the market because at one point and time it used to be a lot harder to get on BrandBucket and it was easier to buy an accepted domain then purchase 10 for every 1 accepted. Now, they loosened up the standards and started charging for listing fee's. These listing fee's cover your descriptions. The hype has allowed them to make money hand over fist.

 

[pokainc]

Just wondering....

If you submit one domain name at a time would you have a higher success rate of being accepted?

I had wondered this a long time ago and I don't think it makes any difference. The only time maybe is that if you have let's say Findsy.com & Findzy.com maybe I would send them at different times.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

I had wondered this a long time ago and I don't think it makes any difference. The only time maybe is that if you have let's say Findsy.com & Findzy.com maybe I would send them at different times.

Agreed. A 5-6 person review system should weed this out. But we never know what really goes on...

To the point of findsy vs findzy, once its entered into the rejected pile there is a low chance of these domains being overturned if you resubmit.

 

[Recons.Com]

zmartly is a play on smartly which has a wide variety of venues potentially

zmarty is play on smarty which most of the time you only use it when you say smartypants..

when you say "zoldout" out loud.. you may think it's ZolledOut, or Zoledout or Zoldout or Zoldoubt, as opposed to soldout which inherently you know what the exact pattern is since it's a known term

Yeah, and all accepted/featured names are right on about why they might sound out loud.

I am just going to go over first ones in the featured (meaning best of crop) listings:

b/r/i/l/l/i/c/a - is that Breelika, brillika, breelica, brileaker, brilleaker?

i/n/v/o/l/i - how do you pronounce that? in-vou-li, in-vou-lai, in-vo-lai?

c/o/v/u/x - is that kou-vax, kou-vux, kovax, ko-vux? And if on radio I hear any version of it, how do I know the spelling is that way?

With zoldout, all you have to say on radio is "that is zold out with z". And no, brandables are not about names that cover everything, they just have to cover big enough business sector and online shops, advertising, classifieds etc. is big enough to warrant approvals on their own potential.

Just to clarify, the above example names are fine and great, the point is that many BB fanboys will justify any reject on the arguments that if true would be basis for thinking many names on BB are really bad.

 

[12345]

@michaeljkrell I don't have any experience yet with BB since they keep rejecting my submissions , I have listed over 30 domain names that have been picked professionally and your staff keep rejecting them , the funny thing is that I've sold some of those domains for more than what I was expecting from BB. Can you please clarify why Gridlytic got accepted while cleverbound & flirtwallet got rejected ?

First off, congrats on those sales. We always say that just because a name is rejected on BB, it doesn't mean it is a bad name, it just means it isn't a good fit for our marketplace.

In regards to your specific example... G R I D L Y T I C is a nice name because 'grid' is a fairly popular tech keyword, and 'lytic' is short for 'analytic' which is obviously a huge sector in tech these days.

C L E V E R B O U N D was rejected because we don't see the connection in the two words. While 'clever' is a decent keyword it would need to be paired with something else. Say like 'logic', 'cloud', 'bot', etc for it to make sense.

F L I R T W A L L E T was rejected for a similar reason. 'Wallet' is a very nice keyword nowadays, but 'flirt' isn't a good match. Something better that would work with 'wallet' would be 'tech', 'cloud', 'bit', 'coin', etc.

Hopefully this helps. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.

 

[Houssaine]

Just received another email from BB regarding my last domains submitted and they were all rejected. Here's the names:
Pikkas
Capaxx an abandoned brand of Siemens Financial Services
LogikPro there's a company using the domain Logik.pro
Commoca a deceased startup

I thought these names were great but unfortunately they don't fit their "target audience".

 

[JimJammy]

Just received another email from BB regarding my last domains submitted and they were all rejected. Here's the names:
Pikkas
Capaxx an abandoned brand of Siemens Financial Services
LogikPro there's a company using the domain Logik.pro
Commoca a deceased startup

I thought these names were great but unfortunately they don't fit their "target audience".

I like the last one, the problem with a 'c' though is it could be pronounced 's'. None of these really pass the telephone test. As Michael said, just because it doesn't fit BB it doesn't mean it's not a good name! You have a back up plan for your third one I've just had a similar type of name rejected and I'm about to do the same as you :D

 

[Abdullah Abdullah]

I've submitted only one domain with an extra letter (Zoomerr), but it got rejected.

Fiverr does not fail radio test. You just need to say "that is fiverr with double r".

Plenti does lots of radio ads with "that is plenti with i" line.

I always say a name fails the radio test if you have to explaib it on the radio like the examples you showed. Imagine if Fiverr had Fiver and wanted to do radio ads? That explanation would not be needed.

 

[Keith DeBoer]

Regarding Zamrtly (which I own) and ZoldOut.

I have rejected domains like everyone else because brandables are subjective. So unless you can get in the minds of the 5 reviewers at BB you'll never have 100% acceptance. But.. you can easily double and triple your acceptance by by looking for patterns in your rejections and patterns in what is published on the website. The principles for a good name are subtle and flexible. They change depending on the length of the domain and the strength of the keyword to which they are applied.

In this case, I have observed that generally BB does not like spelling hacks on two word domains like SoldOut etc.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

Regarding Zamrtly (which I own)

Cool domain. Though you spelled it wrong :D I assume intentional...

patterns in what is published on the website. The principles for a good name are subtle and flexible. They change depending on the length of the domain and the strength of the keyword to which they are applied.

This was the logic I used when determining Z/O was not a good fit for BB. Thanks for your input @Keith DeBoer

z/o/l/d/o/u/t: 508 regged .coms contain 'Sold Out' I don't think BB has many two word domains that begin w/ z

However... The debate between two words and one words is still left unanswered. Personally, I still feel it's two words but I don't have a degree in english. As a domainer though, I'd give it the thumbs up given the quality of the other 'z' domains on bb or on the merit that sold out ie hard to find items is a category in itself ie a great domain as a substitute for the current soldout soldout.com.

Rather than it fully being a one word or two word conversation, I think focus needs to be on the quality of keyword or phrase such as MKs new $4,XXX Up/The/BGut.com

Except, sold-out is not a two word name.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sold–out

"A sold-out event"


Full Definition of sold–out

1. 
   
   : having all available tickets or accommodations sold completely and especially in advance;also : of or relating to a sold-out event <a sold–out crowd>

 

[Azwan Asban]

I had crowdfunderr rejected last week. It is strong keyword i guess but bb told me they prefer one word. I agree with they decision.

My stats(New submissions)
Submitted: 17
Rejected: 1

Rejected
Collab/base
- I don't know why

 

[Chris Hydrick]

I had crowdfunderr rejected last week. It is strong keyword i guess but bb told me they prefer one word. I agree with they decision.

I agree with the decision as well. The 'err' is what kills it. IMO, CrowdFundd would have been accepted due to the quality of keywords + their double last letter acceptance trend, but then again they don't usually add a second letter to two word domains, so IDK.

My stats(New submissions)
Submitted: 17
Rejected: 1

Did you have a 94% acceptance rate? 16 domains accepted of 17 submitted, or am I mistaken? If so, congratulations! That's the most impressive ratio I've seen yet.

Thank you in advance.

 

[Azwan Asban]

I agree with the decision as well. The 'err' is what kills it. IMO, CrowdFundd would have been accepted due to the quality of keywords + their double last letter acceptance trend, but then again they don't usually add a second letter to two word domains, so IDK.



Did you have a 94% acceptance rate? 16 domains accepted of 17 submitted, or am I mistaken? If so, congratulations! That's the most impressive ratio I've seen yet.

Thank you in advance.

yes, 16 domain were accepted.
2 words brandable at most, prefix -co, suffix -sy, -scape ..

 

[Chris Hydrick]

yes, 16 domain were accepted.
2 words brandable at most, prefix -co, suffix -sy, -scape ..

Well done!!! That's very impressive, congratulations, and thank you for sharing! Would you mind answering, were they all hand regs?

 

[Azwan Asban]

Well done!!! That's very impressive, congratulations, and thank you for sharing! Would you mind answering, were they all hand regs?

All handreg. I don't care anymore to buy a shit from aftermarket.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

All handreg. I don't care anymore to buy a sh*t from aftermarket.

Congrats on your improvement as a brandable domainer! 16/17 handregs is very impressive!

 

[Keith DeBoer]

Cool domain. Though you spelled it wrong :D I assume intentional..

No, it was a typo, the name is Zmartly, sorry bout that!