advice Owner renews domain immediately after expired GoDaddy auction ends, why would this happen?

[Matt Holden]

Can anybody shed some light as to why a domain owner would let a domain expire down to auction and then once it was won immediately renew it and then put it back onto DNS?

This just happened to me, with a domain won on GoDaddy expiring auction, the domain was resolving to a "GoDaddy soon to expire" holding page.

Within an hour of winning, the transaction was cancelled and the site is now resolving to an aftermarket sales page.

Have I missed something? surely they had to pay an $80 fine to renew it, so why wait till it was sold at auction.

Any help appreciated.

 

[Nile Patel]

Yes this is correct. In my case however, they accused me of circumventing an auction that I never entered. Their lack of detailed explanation was highly disturbing.

No biggie since my wife has an account but dirty business practice on their part for sure.

How big is your portfolio with them, i have lost few name in auction by winning and the seller flip out that which is time consuming and might think do not has to buy in auction again for expired names.

 

[cocaseco]

Yes this is correct. In my case however, they accused me of circumventing an auction that I never entered. Their lack of detailed explanation was highly disturbing.

No biggie since my wife has an account but dirty business practice on their part for sure.

I'm curious if you also had names registered with that account? If so, how many? Money corrupts everything, so i am curious if they would delete an account that brought them a lot of registration money. Also, they can't just take or drop your domains, so what happened?

 

[Keith]

I'm curious if you also had names registered with that account? If so, how many? Money corrupts everything, so i am curious if they would delete an account that brought them a lot of registration money. Also, they can't just take or drop your domains, so what happened?

Yes I have hundreds. They cannot just drop or delete a domain at will. The owner renewed, I bought, they cried, and that's that.

The issue is that they auction goods that they don't own and aren't authorized to sell. I'm shocked that a lawsuit hasn't been brought yet!

 

[cocaseco]

Yes I have hundreds. They cannot just drop or delete a domain at will. The owner renewed, I bought, they cried, and that's that.

The issue is that they auction goods that they don't own and aren't authorized to sell. I'm shocked that a lawsuit hasn't been brought yet!

I guess I wasn't clear, or I am not understanding.

You had a GD account and it got banned due to some alleged auction issue. Did it just get banned from auctions, or was the entire account banned?

 

[Keith]

I guess I wasn't clear, or I am not understanding.

You had a GD account and it got banned due to some alleged auction issue. Did it just get banned from auctions, or was the entire account banned?

Just auctions.

 

[Nile Patel]

Just auctions.

I m curios to know how they catch you and what stuff you did wrong in auction bidding process.

 

[cdboard]

Most people don't pay $80, you can get the auth code and transfer out.

I was confused "once" when this happened, but the registrar did not change. it remained with G. it turns out that it was transferred to a G reseller, so that is why the registrar did not change.

 

[Lakshan]

About 5 years back I sold a random 5L domain to an DNF user. He offered me high $XXX when it is on redemption and paid me first. I used the money to pay redemption fee and I still have high $xxx - $80 remain in my PayPal.

 

[Lakshan]

I was confused "once" when this happened, but the registrar did not change. it remained with G. it turns out that it was transferred to a G reseller, so that is why the registrar did not change.

As far as I know to remain at Godaddy you have to use redemption. You can't transfer to Godaddy reseller or other way around

 

[Ms Domainer]

It is irritating when one wins an auction and then the owner renews or transfers out to sell to someone else.

A BIG pox to those who circumvent the auction process, effectively stealing from others, which is why I gave so many dislikes on this thread.

You are ethically-challenged ..., well, I won't finish my thought.



I just wish Go Daddy would stop allowing transfers out for expired domains and actually start the auction process later.

Go Daddy is an enabler for the ethically-challenged.

 

[jamesau]

@Ms Domainer I certainly agree the outcome can be frustrating, but it could be argued that the more ethical outcome is if the domain owner receives a fair payment for their investment, rather than the auction houses scoring big bucks for something that has never been theirs to sell. Not saying that circumventing the system is the right solution, but the system is definitely a major part of the problem.

 

[cocaseco]

A BIG pox to those who circumvent the auction process, effectively stealing from others, which is why I gave so many dislikes on this thread.

Perhaps, but business is business, and typically the one who doesn't want to bend the rules loses. It's not like we are ruining the environment or physically hurting anyone, it is after all only a domain name.

 

[Apprich]

GD push the expired domains immediately into auction without getting permission from the owner. So if user forgets to do renewal on time, and will find himself in situation that his domain is being sold on auction.

 

[URL Enterprise]

I have had this happen to me as well. According to what GoDaddy told me, even after an expired domain is listed and sold; the owner still has a final chance to renew.

 

[djum]

From all domains I bought at GD closeouts only 2 were renewed out of few hundred. I can live with it.

 

[juliusb]

I have tried signing up to GoDaddy to but expired domain names but I have not been able to signup my account. Could someone help me. Again, my business approach is to get domain and cashpark
it to earn money from advert. What advice could you give me on that

 

[DanSanchez]

Godaddy has been recently blocking whois records on expired domains, they in fact change the record to their own email so nobody has a chance to contact the previous owner. Had some instances where a transfer request was completely denied by non-submission.

Meaning they declined to show the whois email at all to the requesting registrar. Sure it's a loss when the owner renews, but Godaddy technically has no rights to selling a domain they don't own.

Think of Godaddy as a tax-lien sale, you might just get a house by paying the past due renewal or you recover your original investment. Which is extremely rare in the domain industry.

 

[isUp]

Quite surprised to know about this. Can the owner still renew the domain?

 

[Ms Domainer]

Quite surprised to know about this. Can the owner still renew the domain?

Yep.

When you win an auction, Go Daddy holds the domain for 4-8 days, for a total of 46 days after expiration.

During that 46-day window, the registrant can renew at regular renewal fees (1-12 days after expiration), pay a penalty of $80.00 (13-46 days), or transfer to another registrar (1-46 days).

When you win a domain, be sure to keep a record of when you won the domain and the day it is expected to migrate into your account.

I have had two instances of when someone transferred out a domain, and I had to remind Go Daddy to give me my refund -- it's like they didn't even know the domain had been transferred out. In one case, the domain still shows in my "won" column, and it was transferred out two weeks ago.

 

[ben pedri]

godaddy allows 43 days for old owners to get back there dmains after that it goes into public general redemption, I dont remember what I was doing once ,something clued me in on one of my domains on the 39th day that someone backordered it. So I took a shot and it paid off. I ended up selling it for $400 minus 88 fee and renewal. Also THIS S FACT ,godaddy follows its members ip address via cookies and does not let the customers see the same thing that the outside puplic see,they want your domain to expire. If you ever notice that as godaddy names are expiring they are now private,that because they dont want anyone contacting the owners and buying from them directly. Godaddy is out to screw you ,I saw godaddy customers bid up a great domain to 2500 ,No one would know who this guy was not even me ,but in the archives from 1999 I noticed something,and I knew this guy. anyway after he got his domain back someone bought it for $4000. That would have been godaddys,I have other info that would really hurt them that I really cant reveal at this time ,but seek and you will find them yourself

 

[isUp]

godaddy allows 43 days for old owners to get back there dmains after that it goes into public general redemption, I dont remember what I was doing once ,something clued me in on one of my domains on the 39th day that someone backordered it. So I took a shot and it paid off. I ended up selling it for $400 minus 88 fee and renewal. Also THIS S FACT ,godaddy follows its members ip address via cookies and does not let the customers see the same thing that the outside puplic see,they want your domain to expire. If you ever notice that as godaddy names are expiring they are now private,that because they dont want anyone contacting the owners and buying from them directly. Godaddy is out to screw you ,I saw godaddy customers bid up a great domain to 2500 ,No one would know who this guy was not even me ,but in the archives from 1999 I noticed something,and I knew this guy. anyway after he got his domain back someone bought it for $4000. That would have been godaddys,I have other info that would really hurt them that I really cant reveal at this time ,but seek and you will find them yourself

After I read some new that Godaddy themselves bought lots of domains from someone and then resell them right away, I could understand what you just claimed now.

 

[carob]

Godaddy has been recently blocking whois records on expired domains, they in fact change the record to their own email so nobody has a chance to contact the previous owner. Had some instances where a transfer request was completely denied by non-submission.

Meaning they declined to show the whois email at all to the requesting registrar. Sure it's a loss when the owner renews, but Godaddy technically has no rights to selling a domain they don't own.
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If you ask them to show the WHOIS email to enable a transfer, they will, but it can take two days.

I've found normally if you unlock a domain and request the authcode the WHOIS reverts to the registrant's details straightaway.

 

[isUp]

If you ask them to show the WHOIS email to enable a transfer, they will, but it can take two days.

I've found normally if you unlock a domain and request the authcode the WHOIS reverts to the registrant's details straightaway.

that's tricky.

 

[carob]

that's tricky.

Not really, they are not allowed to interfere with a transfer out. When I contacted them they agreed to fix the whois for that domain, it just took time.

 

[Ms Domainer]

Not really, they are not allowed to interfere with a transfer out. When I contacted them they agreed to fix the whois for that domain, it just took time.

This is a Go Daddy rule, not a registry rule. I know for a fact (via hard experience) that other registrars don't abide by this "rule."