Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

[S-B]

This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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Updates / Reports
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• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
  • Relevant Videos
  • Reply to Adam
  • Update: Resolved
  
  
• Report by LannyB (Unresolved)
  • Response
    • Follow-up Questions
  
  
• Report by domainesque (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unresolved
  • Report Details
  • Update: Waiting on Refund
  
  
• Report of Shane Cultra's friends (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unpaid
  
  
• Report by Jeff Markus (Dissatisfied)
  
  
• Report by simmplex (Resolved)
  • Refunded
  
  
• Report by Blenja_Man (Pending)
  • Voucher
  • Update: Work in Progress
  
  
• Report by RandysDomains (Resolved)
  • Resolved
  
  
• Report by swamismith (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by Charlie (Unresolved)
  • Cover-up
  • Update: Unresolved
  
  
• Report by Jaqpot (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by anon22339 (Unresolved)
  • Details
  
  
• Report by Joseph Peterson (Resolved)
  • Update: Unpaid after 8 days
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Frank Schilling (Resolved)
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Lonewolf5503 (Paypal Dispute)
  • Update: Website not delivered and no longer accessible
  • Update: Lonewolf5503 wins PayPal dispute
  
  
• Report by GermanRaven (Unresolved)
  • Update: Full story
  
  
• Report by ClaudeDauman (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by bobsranch (Unresolved)
  • Details
  • Update: Legal Letter Received
  
  
• Report by Newby888 (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by dougasd (Unresolved)

From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[Adam Dicker]

Also after speaking to an attorney, what is criminal is 'unauthorized access to a computer' and 'extortion'.

I am hiring a US lawyer to deal with these and other issues but I do not plan on avoiding the actual issues.

My side will come out eventually and I thank even those in this thread that don't like me for their support.
Adam

 

[Nazz]

Nah. I just wanted to make sure the post stayed up.

Shane, you have gone to extreme measures in order to shame @Adam Dicker

Is this personal? Are we missing something?

 

[Sam Roy]

Nah. I just wanted to make sure the post stayed up.

I read elsewhere on Namepros some Shane was telling he will start a new blog seriously. May be it is Domain Shane But I am not very sure.

 

[discobull]

what is criminal is 'unauthorized access to a computer

I was going to make the same point. If the private conversation between Adam and Michael was not released by either of them then that transcript must have been stolen which is a crime.

 

[S-B]

@Adam Dicker

I'll be here.

 

[Adam Dicker]

Shane, you have gone to extreme measures in order to shame @Adam Dicker

Is this personal? Are we missing something?

As far as I know, I have never met Shane Bellone but I have a feeling I will see him soon with his lawyer.
Adam Dicker

 

[WebInvestments]

Shane, you have gone to extreme measures in order to shame @Adam Dicker

Is this personal? Are we missing something?

This act reminds me of a SEO blog post about how to increase link popularity (site popularity that is) I read somewhere a couple of years ago. Basically it's about creating a controversial blog post about a famous celebrity (of the industry), and yes, the idea was to make it a fake/false one. And once the post hits the scene, a lot of discussion was expected to be started, resulting in increased site popularity (for the guy who wrote the controversial post).

But even in that blog, the writer mentioned to keep the 'controversy' to utmost professional and ethical level.

I bet I'm not the only one seeing things way too similar here.

 

[WebInvestments]

I read elsewhere on Namepros some Shane was telling he will start a new blog seriously. May be it is Domain Shane But I am not very sure.

It's Shane Bellone's blog alright. Check the domain whois.

 

[Adam Dicker]

I read elsewhere on Namepros some Shane was telling he will start a new blog seriously. May be it is Domain Shane But I am not very sure.

This is not Domain Shane.

 

[Templr]

Its a complicated subject, serving a subpoena to reveal the identity of an anonymous whistleblower?

Whistleblowers have been an important part to the institution of ethics, from my profession of nursing to other workplaces, such disclosure can serve to facilitate better practice when provided with evidence based practice and literature.

 

[elevator]

There are parts that are true and parts that are simply untrue. Your source sent me an email saying that I had Until October 5th to pay a certain amount or they would release info they THOUGHT were true.

The things you posted that were not true makes you libel.

There is definitely another side to this story.

I have made mistakes no question about it and I plan on staying in front of them.

Adam Dicker

Good! Adam, to come for this allegation against you.
Please, correct the correctible ones and let's see what is the real problem behind this and find sollution to the issue.

Cheers.

 

[DomainGist]

Shane, you have gone to extreme measures in order to shame @Adam Dicker

Is this personal? Are we missing something?

I currently find Shane really fascinating as an outsider looking in. I wouldn't have made some of the decisions that he has recently, but I'm intrigued to know what he is thinking because I sense that it is a strategic positioning of some sort rather than a self destruction.

At one point it looked like he was going to build a name for himself as a domainer, the next Adam Dicker if you like. Job at flippa, a fast growing domain marketplace, an impressive flip and Domain Sherpa interview to his name. Where from there? Regular on the big conference scene, route to become the next celebrity domainer?

Now made the strategic decision to sacrifice the Flippa job reference, rather than use it to go and get a job with Sedo or Godaddy or somewhere, now waving goodbye to any chance he has of appearing on Domain Sherpa again and picking a battle with somebody who's star may be fading but undoubtedly will still have influence and friends in the industry.

At first I thought he was being naive and simply blowing his opportunity, now I wonder whether he's positioning himself as the Julian Asssange / Edward Snowden of the domain world, and whether there is actually a place for one, next we'll get a means of secure anonymous submission and an underground lair.

The problem is it isn't easy being an anti-corporatist and an American citizen/resident at the same time. The man deserves some major credit though, he's fearless at the moment, I'd personally be afraid to upset anybody who could liquidate their most valuable domain and use the proceeds to pay for a hit within days, that may sound like something out of a hollywood movie, but if you make it your business to try and bring down peoples businesses without money and power behind you then you aren't insured against that sort of stuff....

.... in other words, its very brave to start trying to destroy people if you don't have a Rupert Murdoch and a top legal team standing behind you.

 

[vital]

This act reminds me of a SEO blog post about how to increase link popularity (site popularity that is) I read somewhere a couple of years ago. Basically it's about creating a controversial blog post about a famous celebrity (of the industry), and yes, the idea was to make it a fake/false one. And once the post hits the scene, a lot of discussion was expected to be started, resulting in increased site popularity (for the guy who wrote the controversial post).

But even in that blog, the writer mentioned to keep the 'controversy' to utmost professional and ethical level.

I bet I'm not the only one seeing things way too similar here.

Maybe you are...

Domain Name: THEREALSHANE.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Updated Date: 25-sep-2015
Creation Date: 25-sep-2015
Expiration Date: 25-sep-2016

Fresh reg. + no other blog posts on the site + no ads. What's his gain there?

 

[Jason.tv]

Fresh reg. + no other blog posts on the site + no ads. What's his gain there?

i'll advertise!

 

[vinsdomains.com]

I have made mistakes no question about it and I plan on staying in front of them.
Adam Dicker

We all have and we all will Adam! Whatever they are, staying in front of them and making things right is always the right thing to do for any Professional. Best of luck!

 

[JayJay]

I currently find Shane really fascinating as an outsider looking in. I wouldn't have made some of the decisions that he has recently,
Now made the strategic decision to sacrifice the Flippa job reference, rather than use it to go and get a job with Sedo or Godaddy or somewhere

I have to agree, on both counts. You do have to look at it from other perspectives though that maybe a "job" isnt something he cared about in the first place. There are many people, myself included, that only view themselves as entrepreneurs and don't really want to work for anyone. Of course its never smart to burn bridges....

There is definitely another side to this story.
I have made mistakes no question about it and I plan on staying in front of them.
Adam Dicker

This somewhat changed my view of the situation, from what we have all seen in the domain world over the years more often than not someone intentionally scamming etc who has been busted wouldn't show their face after being caught. So I don't really know what to think anymore could just be a case of over-promising and under-delivering which I personally wouldn't consider criminal. Not to say I know anything to be fact of course.

 

[WebInvestments]

Maybe you are...

Domain Name: THEREALSHANE.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC
Updated Date: 25-sep-2015
Creation Date: 25-sep-2015
Expiration Date: 25-sep-2016

Fresh reg. + no other blog posts on the site + no ads. What's his gain there?

My friend, if you would have a slight idea about SEO, you would have guessed it. But let me put it in sentence. He has started a blog with a controversial post and now people here know he has a blog worth visiting (mostly because of his controversial post(s) at least).

 

[DomainGist]

There are many people, myself included, that only view themselves as entrepreneurs and don't really want to work for anyone.

It would still make no sense, as burning bridges isn't going to help with business, more likely to leave you on a blacklist. Take Adam Dicker for example, some have implied he may have some liquidity problems at current (in other words, he's short of dosh). I bet he could comfortably purchase Shane Bellone's most valuable domain though, and that's one more potential customer gone to add to Michael Cyger and Kevin Fink.

Even if you wanted to position yourself as a maverick lone wolf who didn't need contacts, you still need people with cash to trade with. If you started a business making chocolate bars and were selling to small convenience stores, it would make no sense to fall out with Walmart, because you'd surely aspire to do business with them some day.

Like I said though, it is fascinating.

 

[vital]

My friend, if you would have a slight idea about SEO, you would have guessed it. But let me put it in sentence. He has started a blog with a controversial post and now people here know he has a blog worth visiting (mostly because of his controversial post(s) at least).

yeah, I am sure his post is all about SEO, lol.

 

[JayJay]

It would still make no sense, as burning bridges isn't going to help with business, more likely to leave you on a blacklist. Take Adam Dicker for example, some have implied he may have some liquidity problems at current (in other words, he's short of dosh). I bet he could comfortably purchase Shane Bellone's most valuable domain though, and that's one more potential customer gone to add to Michael Cyger and Kevin Fink.

Even if you wanted to position yourself as a maverick lone wolf who didn't need contacts, you still need people with cash to trade with. If you started a business making chocolate bars and were selling to small convenience stores, it would make no sense to fall out with Walmart, because you'd surely aspire to do business with them some day.

Like I said though, it is fascinating.

Oh no I totally agree with you, I actually updated my post immediately to mention not burning bridges.

 

[DomainGist]

My friend, if you would have a slight idea about SEO, you would have guessed it. But let me put it in sentence. He has started a blog with a controversial post and now people here know he has a blog worth visiting (mostly because of his controversial post(s) at least).

Interesting idea, its called 'linkbait'.

Couldn't imagine a worse target for that though, negative SEO is easy these days, the subject has a reputation management business.... he'll know how to use negative SEO.

 

[WebInvestments]

yeah, I am sure his post is all about SEO, lol.

Yup, check this thread's status. 1600+ views and 71 replies, in less than 24 hours.

 

[cocaseco]

I am so glad I am not your friend (or enemy) Shane, and I mean that in the most respectful way By not being your friend we never had any business deals that could later be exposed, or spun, if something went wrong. Your "scorched earth" manner is fun to read, probably not so fun to be a part of. You are the Chris Hansen of domaining.

What was your association with Adam? I don't know him either, but to put the story in perspective it would help if we knew how it relates to you. Like with the Flippa story, we knew your past relationship and that actually made the story more credible.

 

[vital]

Yup, check this thread's status. 1600+ views and 71 replies, in less than 24 hours.

edit, pm

 

[WebInvestments]

Interesting idea, its called 'linkbait'.

Couldn't imagine a worse target for that though, negative SEO is easy these days, the subject has a reputation management business.... he'll know how to use negative SEO.

"Link bait" I knew I was forgetting something, lol. Thanks for pointing it out.

And yes, I am sure that Adam will take care of things "professionally".