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advice Raise, Call, or Fold?: Learn From Online Poker to Improve Your Domaining Strategy

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Playing poker online in order to make money is similar to the art of domaining. Today I will introduce a couple of strategies from online poker and apply them to domaining, in hope that both novice and more advanced domainers can learn from them.


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Look at the picture above. Two poker players fight for first place. One will win and one will lose. Let me ask you a question.

Who has the advantage: the player that acts first or the player that acts second?

The right answer is that it is always an advantage to act last. Why? Because you are acting on more information than your opponent. When acting first, you are completely in the dark. You have no way to know if he holds squadoosh or pocket aces. However, after an opponent’s move, you know more about his hand strength (e.g., if he folded, it was weak; if he raised, it is probably strong; and if he called, it is likely somewhere in-between).

Does the game change when you know your opponent never bluffs? Definitely!

Would you play better if you narrowed down his hand to only three possibilities? You bet!

Is the game easier if you know your opponent is bluffing? Oh yes!

Information is key. The more you know about your opponent, the better decisions you can make.

You can apply the same principle to domaining. Negotiating a deal with someone is similar to playing poker against that person. He is an opponent, because he wants the opposite of what you want. You want a lot of money for your domain name, and he wants it for as little as possible, preferably for free.

If you don't know anything about your opponents, you will make different decisions than you will if you know a thing or two about them.

In poker, if you have no information, you would start by playing a Game Theory Optimal (GTO) style, which is a strategy that yields the highest possible expected value when accounting for an opponent to perform optimal moves. If both parties employ this strategy, neither can be be exploited and neither can exploit the other. Thus, this strategy does not maximize profits.

Similarly, in domaining without any information, your first move is to send a generic email like:

Hi,

Hope you are well. I just want to let you know that I'm selling domain name X. This can be a wonderful opportunity for you. Please let me know if you are interested.

Regards,

An email like this will make contact, but nothing more. If potential buyers are really interested in the domain name, it won’t scare them away, and they will likely respond.

However, 95% of buyers will need you to explain how buying your domain name will benefit them. In order to effectively pitch your domain to buyers, you need to gain information about them.

In online poker, you monitor tells and opponents’ betting patterns, and then employ HUDs (Heads Up Displays that track important game statistics) to help you make informed decisions.

In domaining, you should also monitor key information to improve your decisions. Learn as much as you can about your opponents, such as:

About the Company
  • What products do they sell?
  • How long have they been in business?
  • Do they spend a lot of money on marketing?
  • Do they buy advertising space?
  • Have they made any prior domain name purchases?
  • Have they had a good year, or could they be short on liquidity?

About Your Direct Opponents
  • What is their background?
  • What kind of person are they (are they detail oriented, or not?)?
  • Do they make domain purchasing decisions themselves?
  • Do they have a big or small ego?

If you know the answers to these questions, you can write an email that will look completely different from the stock example I posted earlier, and it will be much more effective. For example, depending on your subject, you could be more formal/informal to match their personality. You could ask for more money because you know the company has had a good year, or they have acquired domains in the last few months for prices above $10k. Knowing information like this puts you in a much better position than the guessing game you are playing without it.

The same principle of ”knowledge is power” also applies to buying a domain name. Does your seller need money fast? If so, you can bid lower and offer instant payment to grab a domain below market value. Is your opponent comfortable holding on to the domain name that you want for years? What did they pay for the domain name? Are they a novice or an experienced domainer? Knowing the answers to these questions will help you extract higher value from domain transactions.

Succeeding at domaining, much like at online poker, requires embarking on a continuous quest for information. I cannot stress this enough: knowing as much as you can about your opponent (and controlling what he knows about you) is the key to successful negotiating and domaining. By having more information than your opponent, you can make more effective decisions and win bigger and more often.


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If you are conducting business with "opponents" the above strategy will work, but if you are doing business with "partners"...it won't.
 
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GTO in poker is like sending a similar email to the one above in domaining.
That applies when you have no information about the person you are dealing with.
But in poker, domaining and life everything is changing in every second of the way and you have to adjust as soon as you are getting relevant info.

@sittingducks Great post and great analogy!
 
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"Raise, Call, or Fold?: Learn From Online Poker to Improve Your Negotiation Strategy"*

Great post though.
 
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If you are conducting business with "opponents" the above strategy will work, but if you are doing business with "partners"...it won't.

Thanks for bringing up the point. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I always think you should treat people with respect and be friendly and professionally. I coined the term to emphasize that it's basically a statistical game you are playing versus someone else and not as a way of dealing with people in general.

GTO in poker is like sending a similar email to the one above in domaining.
That applies when you have no information about the person you are dealing with.
But in poker, domaining and life everything is changing in every second of the way and you have to adjust as soon as you are getting relevant info.

@sittingducks Great post and great analogy!

Thanks!

"Raise, Call, or Fold?: Learn From Online Poker to Improve Your Negotiation Strategy"*

Great post though.

Thanks! The original title was really bad (I made it myself hehe) but fantastic editors upgraded it to the current one which is 100 steps better. I have forwarded the suggestion, I think it would make an even better title :) Thanks!
 
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Poker is the art of decision making. At every step each has to make a decision, check, bet, raise or fold. The more information we have the better decision we make in poker, in domaining, in investing and in life. Cheers!
 
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Well in poker, there is a 1/0 outcome (winner/loser) but really with domaining you want both parties to win.
 
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Poker is the art of decision making. At every step each has to make a decision, check, bet, raise or fold. The more information we have the better decision we make in poker, in domaining, in investing and in life. Cheers!
I dont play that game, but it sounds good.
 
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Kenny Rogers sang it best..you have to know when to hold'em know when to fold'em know when to walk away and know when to run.
 
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2 cents, in this case 2 thoughts, from a newbie in domaining but a pro in poker:

Exploit them till' they adjust, then - readjust.

Take dopamine and emotion out of the equation.
 
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Great article! I see you at the poker tables!
 
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Should we have a NamePros trophy to play for at the tables or smth?:rolleyes: Let's goB-)
 
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I think need common sense and few chips. I mean chinese chips.
 
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Just don't act with a chip on your shoulder...
 
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Nice post. And there are other important aspects that apply to both poker and domain investing like bankroll management, variance, and making +EV decisions, etc.
 
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Nice post. And there are other important aspects that apply to both poker and domain investing like bankroll management, variance, and making +EV decisions, etc.

Yes, I plan to write more articles, excellent suggestions :)
 
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Many Poker experts here. B-)
 
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To me its more like a game known as Nine Man Morris, Mill, Mills, The Mill Game, Merels, Merrills, Merelles, Marelles, Morelles and Ninepenny Marl or Cowboy Checkers.
Here its about being the first one to own a position.

Then it converts into Monopoly.
Now its about owning hotels and so on..

Only after an inquiry reaches you
finally it becomes poker.

What a game !
King of all games!
I love it.
 
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