The LLLL.com sales and discussion thread

UDZY.com just sold for $88 on ebay (not my domain)

UDZY.com is a great VCVC and a steal at that price. Way prounceable.

- Bob

gorilla bob said:

UDZY.com is a great VCVC and a steal at that price. Way prounceable.

- Bob

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it isnt a VCVC... it is VCC? (as we know Y can be a vowel or a consonant)

right, UDZY == vccv ...

in any case, eminently pronounceable and a bargain for the price it went for. I wonder what the seller might have expected to get for it on eBay auction at this point in time ...?

bricio said:

it isnt a VCVC... it is VCC? (as we know Y can be a vowel or a consonant)

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The Y does take the role of a vowel (making it pronounceable) in this case. I think the price is fair for what should be considered a VCCV.

The market sure is HOT lately.. Looking forward to what the future holds... Have already begun renewing some of my LLLL's. Don't wait until the end, especially if you have alot to renew!

Reece said:

Don't wait until the end, especially if you have alot to renew!

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thats really a great advcie for those with many domains

bricio said:

thats really a great advcie for those with many domains

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Yes, and I say it from personal experience...

I know full well that I'll be hit with a 15k renewal bill for August-November regs... No point waiting until July to start paying that down! A couple thousand a month makes the experience pleasant.. Coming up with 15k at the last minute is anything but pleasant -- and why would you want to go to the bank and get a loan (or worse, put it on a credit card) and substantially cut into your profits?

italiandragon said:

In 2 years time, people who did not buy or the ones who sell LLLL.com at 10 - $20 will have many regrets.

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ones who didn't buy will certainly kick themselves for lack of foresight - unless they somehow did better investing in a different area (which seems quite possible actually - everyone has their own angle in this growing market)

as for those doing a few quick flips under $20 :hi:
well it depends - for sure will be wondering WTF were they thinking if they sell a large part of their holdings so early in the game ... OTOH it's good to diversify a bit - so in my case I have a portfolio that is a bit "overweight" on the low end - so I don't mind putting a few of these out there to help fund more purchases a step or 2 up the ladder in the $20 to $50 range now ...

But while I'm glad to round out my selection with at least a few VCCV and VCVC when I can find some still within my limited budget ...

I do have to take a careful look at the assumptions I'm making when doing these trades - ie selling 2 such as NQZC and WXUJ to buy 1 IHQA or OVYJ (as I have recently done though actually maybe at a slightly better ratio than 2:1 thanks both to good buyers and willing sellers on this board).

While I hear people predict that CVCV and VCVC will out-perform the low-end on a percentage basis (also taking annual reg fees into account) - I really don't know that it makes sense to overtrade in a desperate scramble to "upgrade" my LLLL portfolio.

Still I'll take opportunities to make some sales at a fair price to buyers (and maybe help broaden the market base a bit in the process) and also to bid on anything I see as undervalued and try to make a few good pickups in a higher price range still within my comfort zone.

The end result from these trades should only result in a more balanced portfolio, with more than enough of my reg-fee diamonds in the rough still hanging tough but now hedged with a few of the more "conventional wisdom" semi-premium pieces.

(Actually - hmmm - also I think I've been buying more than I've been selling! So money continues to flow in the "smart" direction to build up my own small stake in this area.)

Remembering this is a sales report thread ... so enough philosophical verbiage - here's some real numbers ->

NQZC (previously reported as a $5.56 pickup on eBay November 1st) - flipped a few days ago on NP for still a nice price of $14

IHQA purchased Nov 7th here on NP for $30
OVYJ purchased Nov 9th here on NP for $25 (!)

(I think I already posted about IHQA and OVYJ, not sure if I included exact dates and prices though).

EJDW won in NP auction Nov 10th for $14

also a few of my own sales in progress - WXUD on eBay will be closing tomorrow night, already bid up to $10.51 last time I checked ... and ZVQH sale here on NP pending. I'll post those when they're finalized hopefully in a few days. Also should note I've had WXQO and ZVQG on offer here with $15 BIN for a few days but haven't got any serious offers for those. (Which is fine, does me the favor of kicking myself later for letting them go so cheap!)

ok ... to be continued ... :sold:
LLLLater everybody ~

I have a few brandable ones for sale (on offer) here on NP, but i might stop the offer. I see the market is getting much stronger and SEDO looks like a good market right now for all LLLL.com's

Nice Thread!

I expect (just guessing of course) that prices will tend to move in something akin to a "three steps forward, two steps back" pattern ... If that's the case (in a very approximate sense) then selling a few on the "third step forward" while buying more on the "second step back" would be a nice trick to learn.

But it's probably delusional to expect a reliably predictable trading pattern to persist for long (in theory, the peaks and valleys will be smoothed over as people start selling rather than buying that much sooner before the peak in anticipation of the "two steps down" phase and likewise buying on the dips to the point where there aren't dips to buy on anymore). So buy and hold strategy makes good sense vs. trying to successfully "time" any apparent rhythm in this fast-moving market ...


(I started a new thread to bounce around a few more ideas along these lines -> http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/395119-llll-com-market-timing.html )

zidd.com - 535 SnapNames

dtwj.com $999 on TDNAM but this is a good typo of dtwj.gov.cn

some today's sales

zmsa.com $177 GoDaddy
nsvv.com $62 GoDaddy
bgwz.com $50 SnapNames
fhjx.com $17 SnapNames
mjzg.com $32 SnapNames
plwx.com $17 SnapNames
syxf.com $14 SnapNames
xgfg.com $32 SnapNames
bqfh.com $23 SnapNames
cczh.com $55 SnapNames
jzml.com $25 SnapNames
lpgz.com $33 SnapNames
mcgz.com $13 SnapNames
qhqn.com $30 SnapNames
sxdh.com $26 SnapNames
umyt.com $55 SnapNames
vbcr.com $43 SnapNames
vtxp.com $20 SnapNames
vxqq.com $13 SnapNames
wcgx.com $20 SnapNames
ylnw.com $19 SnapNames
zwtt.com $38 SnapNames
tjbk.com $28 GoDaddy

I have always like VCVC's just as much as CVCV's; they both seem to have the "it" factor when it comes to end users.

qipy.com $310 at Sedo

Ergo said:

some today's sales

zmsa.com $177 GoDaddy
nsvv.com $62 GoDaddy
bgwz.com $50 SnapNames
fhjx.com $17 SnapNames
mjzg.com $32 SnapNames
plwx.com $17 SnapNames
syxf.com $14 SnapNames
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Thanks ergo - that's an eyeful. Prices seem a bit more subdued than a few days ago - which is fine with me ... buyers need to take a breather every now and then - and if some sellers panic and dump, then I think that's a great buying opportunity from the point of view of most of us following this thread.

my own WXUD is closing on eBay in about 20 minutes - I will be pleasantly surprised if it breaks $20 (although I think it's a pretty good "non-premium" piece & truly worth more than that of course, that's just how it goes in an auction sometimes - hopefully someone on this board will pick up the bargain and give it a loving home :^)

Prices are lower but domains are not so good as were yesterday.

well WXUD closed at $10.51, no new bids in the last day ...
(the sky is falling! the sky is falling!)
but just now here on NP sold WXQO and ZVQG for $14 each ...
I think would have been better to be buying rather than selling today! (Actually today also committed to purchases for 2 names @ $20 and $25 from an offer that had been sitting for a while, and another @ $20 to be completed on Thursday ... so I think I may be starting to get the hang of this "sell low, buy high" strategy! - ok that sounds like a bad joke, but actually maybe something to it in terms of my portfolio diversification goal. Maybe.)

heed.com 5100$ at Sedo, was sold at 550$ in the 2006 ( afternic ).

heed.com 5100$ at Sedo,

I was looking at that myself, I love how pronounceable LLLL's are just cleaning up; heck illo.com also sold on Sedo for $2550, feels nice to see these kind of sales.