WTF: Refunded after paying for winning action.

[horusprim]

I bid for a domain at an Godaddy auction. Won auction and immediately paid for the domain. The cost was just under $30.00. That was February 3, 2016.

My auction dashboard had the domain as one that I did not have a winning bid. Today, 5 days later, I see the domain price was refunded. No explanation given.

This domain has almost zero backlinks and presumably no type in traffic.

What the F*ck happened?

 

[Beezy]

Owner renewed it.

 

[Dominic Belley]

That is normal.
You must have purchased an Expiring domain and the owner decided to renew.
So GD refunded you.

 

[LifeRacer]

That is normal.
You must have purchased an Expiring domain and the owner decided to renew.
So GD refunded you.

So how do i check if the domain is in list of expiring domains?

 

[Dominic Belley]

The "Sale Type" tells you if its an Expiring auction or Public Auction.

 

[horusprim]

Owner renewed it.

That is normal.
You must have purchased an Expiring domain and the owner decided to renew.
So GD refunded you.

Thanks for the quick reply.
I just wish Godaddy only auctioned domains that THEY ACTUALLY CONTROL!

 

[infosec3]

This has happened to me a few times. As others have said, it is normal at GoDaddy.

 

[silentg]

If it was renewed the you would've gotten an email regarding it.

 

[Name Trader]

It was either renewed or transferred away. Mostly the owner transfers away because it's cheaper. If you do a whois lookup, you will usually find it is no longer registered at GoDaddy. GoDaddy allow the renewal or transfer away option to all expiring domain owners, in order to satisfy ICANNs ToS. They give the owner up to day 42 after expiry to renew/transfer their domain. The auctions end (from memory) approx 4 days before that. So you can win an auction, and have it taken away when the original owner either renews or transfers the domain.

 

[daj]

What the F*ck happened?

Welcome to Godaddy, an ICANN accredited registrar. ICANN allows all their registrars to auction off domains registered through them, for profit, before they are actually expired, which allows the owner of the domain to renew them even if you paid money to Godaddy to buy it!

Complain to ICANN about it: https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/registries/form
That's all you can really do.

There really needs to be a better system than this.

 

[itsmeyall]

but they tell you straight to your face in the rules section doesn't anybody read the fine print anymore??

 

[Name Trader]

Welcome to Godaddy, an ICANN accredited registrar. ICANN allows all their registrars to auction off domains registered through them, for profit, before they are actually expired, which allows the owner of the domain to renew them even if you paid money to Godaddy to buy it!

Complain to ICANN about it: https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/registries/form
That's all you can really do.

There really needs to be a better system than this.

GoDaddy go farther than any other registrar in preserving original owners rights to their domain. But in the end they trample all over them just like everyone else. I commend GoDaddy for their trying to preserve original owners rights. It's the auctioning off of domains before original owners rights have expired which is the f.up part of the system. But here ICANN does absolutely nothing to intervene because of their cosy relationship with registrars. The regulator should never also be part of, or have a business relationship with the parties involved.

It's the auction bidders which should have no rights to registered domains.

 

[NameYourself]

It was either renewed or transferred away. Mostly the owner transfers away because it's cheaper. If you do a whois lookup, you will usually find it is no longer registered at GoDaddy. GoDaddy allow the renewal or transfer away option to all expiring domain owners, in order to satisfy ICANNs ToS. They give the owner up to day 42 after expiry to renew/transfer their domain. The auctions end (from memory) approx 4 days before that. So you can win an auction, and have it taken away when the original owner either renews or transfers the domain.

How would the original registrant be able to transfer away? GoDaddy replaces the whois contacts on expired domains within days with their own "[email protected]".

 

[Name Trader]

How would the original registrant be able to transfer away? GoDaddy replaces the whois contacts on expired domains within days with their own "[email protected]".

Have you ever looked in your control panel at Domains > Expired Domains?

 

[NameYourself]

Have you ever looked in your control panel at Domains > Expired Domains?

Yes, and you can still recover/renew names after the 19 day point, but that still negates the fact that the receiving registrar will need to verify the admin email first which would go to "[email protected]".

 

[Name Trader]

GoDaddy handle that when you request a transfer out auth code. It's not a problem.

 

[TERADOMAIN]

Renewal time is 45 days after domain expired with certain penalty. People can renew by paying penalty. It happens with me couple of time as well. I won several expired domains as well. Some of them can be seen in my signature.

Thanks

 

[Name Trader]

Renewal time is 45 days after domain expired with certain penalty. People can renew by paying penalty. It happens with me couple of time as well. I won several expired domains as well. Some of them can be seen in my signature.

Thanks

Not at GoDaddy and not anywhere that I am aware of. ICANN says 45 days, GoDaddy gives you 42 days, eNom/NameCheap gives you 28-30 days, IIRC.

 

[NameYourself]

GoDaddy handle that when you request a transfer out auth code. It's not a problem.

Have you done this before? I'm surprised godaddy would allow it as they would be losing the $80 or so penalty for recovery fee.

 

[Name Trader]

Yes. I've done it many times. It's quite normal. Although I normally transfer my domains out these days as soon as the 60 day hold has expired.

I wouldn't recommend you leave it until the last 42nd day, however.