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The only way to end this Pandemic is if the majority of the people around the World get vaccinated.

It's amazing that several vaccines have already been developed in record time and thus far they all show very good results as far as creating some level of immunity against Covid19 without causing any major side effects and supposedly even if those who have been vaccinated come down with the disease it won't be at the more severe levels that require hospitalization.

There are many companies that are working on the vaccine although the top contenders currently are Moderna, Pfizer, and AstraZeneca:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...d-vaccine-heres-what-we-know-them/6308571002/


I personally would be first in line to get the vaccine as I am in the older category with some history of heart problems and although I believe that everyone should be free to make their own choices, but this will only be effective in stopping the Pandemic if the majority of the people (like over 80% or so) get vaccinated.

Please do your own research about the vaccines and indicate your choice in the poll (visible to all) and post any justification for your decision as to whether you are going to get the vaccine or not below.

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South African coronavirus variant: All your questions answered

" A worrisome new coronavirus variant first detected in South Africa, known as B.1.351, has already spread to more than 30 countries. Experts are particularly alarmed by this variant because of its potential to "escape" protection from current vaccines, meaning vaccines might not stop people from getting infected with COVID-19. Here's what you need to know about the new variant. "


https://www.livescience.com/south-african-coronavirus-variant-faq.html
 
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On a related thought:

With all the new mutations and variants that are appearing around the World it is now more important than ever for everyone to abide by all the hygiene and Pandemic safety guidelines and protocols that the majority of the doctors and experts are currently recommending even after getting vaccinated. (including frequent hand washing, wearing masks, and physical distancing which also means no hugging, kissing, or shaking hands.)

For those who don't want to listen to what the top doctors and experts are saying and who as such are going to continue contributing to spreading the virus even further by being careless and ignorant I only have one question:

Haven't you all killed enough people already.

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You people down there go scavenger hunting for a dose? Sounds as messed up as the last election.
last time i spoke with dr he said mid april for me, he would call.
This dipshit flew to yukon to get the shot. Lost more than his job
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/great-canadian-gaming-ceo-yukon-covid-vaccines-1.5886734
8 tips for finding a COVID-19 vaccine

" If you want a shot, but don't know where to start, PBS NewsHour has gathered some advice on how best to secure a vaccine. In general, be prepared to do your research and be patient. "


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/8-tips-for-finding-a-covid-19-vaccine
 
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You people down there go scavenger hunting for a dose? Sounds as messed up as the last election.
last time i spoke with dr he said mid april for me, he would call.

It's going to take a while to fix all the damage that has already been done by those who didn't take this Pandemic seriously before, (some still don't), but fortunately there are many others who are working selflessly around the clock to save lives although now that the virus has been allowed to take a foothold for so long it makes it much more difficult for the experts to handle the sheer volume of people who need to be taken care of or be vaccinated.

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I agree, but feel the medical professionals should decide who gets top priority.

Unfortunately some people think what's the use of being rich, famous, and powerful if you can't cut in front of the line.

This whole Pandemic has been mishandled from the very beginning, we can only feel sorry for all those who have lost their loved ones needlessly.

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Only 38% of nursing home workers accepted COVID-19 vaccines, new data shows


" While residents of nursing homes and their caregivers have been considered a top priority for COVID-19 vaccination, only 38% of nursing home staff accepted shots when they were offered, new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention revealed Monday. "


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...get-covid-vaccine-cdc-study-finds/6664743002/
 
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Covid: Israel's vaccine rollout linked to infection fall

" The fall appears to be most pronounced in older people and areas furthest ahead in their immunisation efforts.

This suggests it is the vaccine, and not just the country's current lockdown, taking effect. "


https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55706855
 
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The Mystery Of India's Plummeting COVID-19 Cases

" Last September, India was confirming nearly 100,000 new coronavirus cases a day. It was on track to overtake the United States to become the country with the highest reported COVID-19 caseload in the world. Hospitals were full. The Indian economy nosedived into an unprecedented recession.

But four months later, India's coronavirus numbers have plummeted. Late last month, on Jan. 26, the country's Health Ministry confirmed a record low of about 9,100 new daily cases — in a country of nearly 1.4 billion people. It was India's lowest daily tally in eight months. On Monday, India confirmed about 11,000 cases."


https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...e-mystery-of-indias-plummeting-covid-19-cases
 
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My dad and I got ours yesterday.
Arm is a little sore, but other than that, no 3rd leg growing or radio waves coming out of my ears....
so next month we get the 2nd shot and a lot of pressure will be off me working to keep my Pops safe.
We will continue to stay aware, keep masked up, and distance as much as possible, and I hope by mid summer life can return to some semblance of normal.

Maybe.

Peace,
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/SJzxrjLXDVOd/

COVID-19 mRNA Shots Are Legally Not Vaccines | Dr. Joseph Mercola

"Gene Therapy Technology" is the actual definition

* By referring to COVID-19 vaccines as “vaccines” rather than gene therapies, the U.S. government is violating its 15 U.S. Code Section 41, which regulates deceptive practices in medical claims
* The mRNA injections are gene therapies that do not fulfill a single criteria or definition of a vaccine
* COVID-19 “vaccines” do not impart immunity or inhibit transmissibility of the disease. They only are designed to lessen your infection symptoms if or when you get infected. As such, these products do not meet the legal or medical definition of a vaccine
* Since a vast majority of people who test positive for SARS-CoV-2 have no symptoms at all, they’ve not even been able to establish a causal link between the virus and the clinical disease
* By calling this experimental gene therapy technology a “vaccine,” they are circumventing liability for damages that would otherwise apply

Full Story : https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/02/09/coronavirus-mrna-vaccine.aspx
 
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COVID-19 mRNA Shots Are Legally Not Vaccines..
"Gene Therapy Technology" is the actual definition

I believe the correct term is:

Messenger RNA Therapeutics

Which is currently being delivered to the body through vaccination.

I am still waiting for my turn to get my Messenger RNA Therapy :angelic:

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Dr.SHIVA LIVE: mRNA Vaccine - A Reductionist "Immunity" Approach. Need for Systems Immunology.

Dr.SHIVA Ayyadurai, MIT PhD in Biological Engineering, the Inventor of Email, Scientist, Engineer Educator reviews basis transcription and translation, along with a discussion of the modern science of the immune system to reveal why the mRNA Vaccine provides a reductionist approach to immune response.
 
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@Compassion ,

Thanks for the info, but what alternative ways are being suggested here that can help bring the Pandemic under control.

If not by vaccination and by following the Pandemic safety and hygiene guidelines and protocols (which includes wearing masks) then what other ways are there.

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@Compassion ,

Thanks for the info, but what alternative ways are being suggested here that can help bring the Pandemic under control.

Turn off the fear mongering media and look at the data and see we aren't in a pandemic by pure statistics.

Familiarize yourself with Kary Mullis...

He created PCR (not for diagnosing infectious disease) see here http://karymullis.net


and here is Mullis on Fauci the fraud:
http://karymullis.org


And here is Fauci himself cowriting that Spanish Flu deaths were from BACTERIA infections (from wearing masks)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/

"The postmortem samples we examined from people who died of influenza during 1918–1919 uniformly exhibited severe changes indicative of bacterial pneumonia."
 
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@Compassion ,

has any alternative methods been tested anywhere in the World that has produced good results in containing the Coronavirus.

It seems that every Country in the World is trying to get their people vaccinated and are encouraging everyone to wear masks.

Are you saying that they are all wrong.

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My dad and I got ours yesterday.
Arm is a little sore, but other than that, no 3rd leg growing or radio waves coming out of my ears....

At first I was a somewhat reluctant, but after personal review of pros/cons and some anxious introspection, being eligable to receive the first dose of ModernaVax, I got my shot today. My arm is still a little sore at the injection site, and after an hour or so I felt quite drowsy. I was told this is a common side effect. I had a short nap and practiced a little self-care - basically took it easy for the afternoon.

I don't feel immunu-compromised, but rather more relieved, especially since Covid-19 has spread to northern communities, even though isolated we have a more vulnerable population.
 
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At first I was a somewhat reluctant, but after personal review of pros/cons and some anxious introspection, being eligable to receive the first dose of ModernaVax, I got my shot today. My arm is still a little sore at the injection site, and after an hour or so I felt quite drowsy. I was told this is a common side effect. I had a short nap and practiced a little self-care - basically took it easy for the afternoon.

I don't feel immunu-compromised, but rather more relieved, especially since Covid-19 has spread to northern communities, even though isolated we have a more vulnerable population.


Wish you the best of health, would you care to say which vaccine it was that you got.


Some related thoughts,

With the Coronavirus having been allowed to take such strong foothold around the World and now having gained access to unlimited human and animal reservoirs to use to mutate, at this time we need to think of and implement some long term plans for the next 20, 30, or even 50 years to try to make up for all the mistakes and lack of proper actions that could have contained this virus at the very beginning.

Although the newer mRNA vaccines are considered a miracle of technology, but the work should not stop there, research should continue at the same speed to find other kinds of vaccines and methods that can be effective against the new mutations and variants of Coronavirus and similar disease causing viruses and pathogens.

Perhaps we should even go one step further beyond just thinking of pharmaceutical cures and look into other ways that we can prevent disease such as creating artificial white blood cells or laser equipped microscopic robots that can hunt and destroy harmful viruses and microorganisms from within our bodies. Or perhaps we can expose these microorganisms and diseased cells to radiation that is fine tuned to their resonance frequencies and that can disrupt their life cycle.

Hopefully we'll see some advancements in the medical technology soon, but in order to be completely successful in fighting the virus we also need to get to a new kind of mindset and environment that can allow us to focus more of our energy and efforts towards protecting Humanity and our Home Planet instead of continuing with all the same old political, racial, religious, and economical ideologies and agendas that have gotten the World into the mess that it is in now on so many fronts.

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Wish you the best of health, would you care to say which vaccine it was that you got.

Thanks... and to you too. (y)

I got the Moderna vaccine. Currently only Moderna and BioNTech are available in Canada, but due to cryogenic handling contraints of the Pfizer vaccine, only Moderna is shipped to remote locations. Novavax is gearing up to produce vaccines in Canada in 2021.
 
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Thanks... and to you too. (y)

I got the Moderna vaccine. Currently only Moderna and BioNTech are available in Canada, but due to cryogenic handling contraints of the Pfizer vaccine, only Moderna is shipped to remote locations. Novavax is gearing up to produce vaccines in Canada in 2021.


I know some people who developed a few side effects two or three days after vaccination, although their side effects were minor, but it might be a good idea not to go snow skiing outside for a few days.

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I know some people who developed a few side effects two or three days after vaccination, although their side effects were minor, but it might be a good idea not to go jet sking outside for a few days.

I'm normally sensitive to vaccines... I've had some unwanted side-effects to the flu vaccine before, hence my apprehension. When feeling drowsy, I went out for a brief ride on the snowmachine in the cool Arctic air as it usually wakes me up, but it didn't have much of an effect as the vaccine was working its way through my system. I suspect there will be some reaction, but minor in comparison to Covid.
 
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I'm normally sensitive to vaccines... I've had some unwanted side-effects to the flu vaccine before, hence my apprehension. When feeling drowsy, I went out for a brief ride on the snowmachine in the cool Arctic air as it usually wakes me up, but it didn't have much of an effect as the vaccine was working its way through my system. I suspect there will be some reaction, but minor in comparison to Covid.

I wouldn't venture too far into the wilderness, it's probably best to stay close to home for a few days to make sure that there are not any side effects.

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https://phibetaiota.net/2021/03/vid...-some-of-the-dangers-of-the-covid-19-vaccine/

"Within 7 Months to 19 Years post vaccine, You are Guaranteed to Have Some Form of Auto-Immune Disease".

Posted on 2021/03/09
Video (32:34): Dr. Tenpenny Expains In Simple Terms Some Of The Dangers of The Covid-19 “Vaccine” UPDATED with MD Transcript & Additional Links
02 Infectious Disease, 07 Health, 07 Other Atrocities, 10 Transnational Crime, 11 Society


It takes at least 6 weeks from the time you get your injection for the spike antibody to start to develop. So, somewhere between 3 months and quite frankly 20 years. The immunologist I spoke to said that over the next 10 years we are going to see this go on in perpetuity, because it can take anywhere from 2 years to 19 years to get full blown auto-immune disease. I think we will see massive injuries and a lot more deaths starting somewhere between 4 and 18 months from now. This Vaccine will permanently alter your immune system.

* new type of shot that does not meet any of the criteria of a vaccine.

does not keep you from getting sick, does not change the death rate.

It is NOT like getting another flu shot, still have to wear a mask and social distance.

* When you get this spike antibody in your system it will permanently and irreversibly change your immune system. The messenger RNA is the spike protein to develop an antibody against that spike protein. It means next time you come in contact with a virus the antibody should block you from getting sick. However, not only does it not stop you from getting sick, the antibody itself is going to turn on your body and create havoc and massive auto-immune disease.

* It attacks your organs by molecular mimicry.

It is a genetic modification technology.

* 10 ways it hurts you:

Too complicated for me so I did not take notes. see 7M.

* Governments around the world are saying NO to MRnA vaccines.

* It is a well designed killing tool. It is a genetic modification technology.

She explains how messenger RNA works. The messenger creates a protein and indirectly changes your DNA. Makes a spike protein.

* There are 35 to 40 corona viruses. The process allows the virus to replicate.

The antibody does not behave like a normal antibody. . ..

The antibody can bind to tissue in your lungs . . . and cause anaphylactic shock

and other things.

* The antibody process will be there forever because of . . .

and we have no idea how long the mrna messenger will continue to be translated and create the proteins, etc. and there are no long term studies. For the rest of your life you may be susceptible to auto-immune disease, shock, allergies and death.

* It is wrapped in a bubble of polyethylene glycol allows the virus to replicate.

Polyethylene glycol (wiki) That is what leads to anaphylactic shock and death.

* Rashes as things like that are an allergic reaction. People who had the shot and say, I am fine are okay, until they get re-exposed to a CV.

She explains how the virus starts to replicate and you get an infection worse than if you had not had the shot.

* They did not do animal studies because they knew the animals would get sick or die.

* The antibody can cross the blood-brain barrier and make 2 proteins in the brain malfunction. You can get ALS or frontal lobe degeneration (Alzheimer’s and dementia).

* cytochrome storm goes on and the firemen never show up because there is NO off switch. Because the protectors are killed off.

* The new J&J shot takes the spike protein and puts it inside an Adenovirus (common cold virus) that combines to your cell and opens up and deposits the spike protein antibody inside your cell.

End result is that all 3 of them make these antibodies that are going to be so destructive. Study indicates there are 28 organs in your body that can be attacked by that antibody. You can have 100 different symptoms (so it is hard to diagnose). It van cause cancer.

It’s mass murder.

The survival rate on the virus without the vaccine is 99.91%

Timeframe on deaths: It takes at least 6 weeks from the time you get the injection for the spike antibody to start to develop, so somewhere between 3 months and 20 years. See above.

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Dr. Tenpenny Expains In Simple Terms Some Of The Dangers of The Covid-19 “Vaccine”

Dr. Tenpenny is an integrative medicine physician in Cleveland, OH who has studied the vaccine problems for over 20 years – read 1000s of mainstream medical scientific papers and has put in over 40,000 hours of study on these issues

Certificate of Vaccine Identification Artificial Intelligence COVID-19 is an acronym for Certificate of Vaccine Identification 19 (19 ==> 1 for A and 9 for I, thus AI)

  • This “vaccine” is not a vaccine, but an exceptionally well-designed genetic modification killing tool
  • It can cause full blown autoimmune disease anywhere from 2 years and up to 20 years after injection !!!
  • This “vaccine “ permanently alters host immune system
  • Not only does shot NOT stop host from getting sick, the antibody (AB) itself turns on host’s body creating havoc & massive auto-immune disease
  • Governments around the world are saying NO to mRNA vaccines because they are a form of MASS MURDER = GENOCIDE
  • Remember that genocide is absolutely a key part of the Deep State Plan
Spike protein AG presented to host immune system in 1 of 2 ways
Pathway 1 – CELL-MEDIATED IMMUNITY
Spike protein fragment antigen (AG) binds MHC-1 receptor in ER & then MCH-1 Protein Complex leaves ER as vesicle to be exocytosed at plasma membrane
This MCH-1 Protein Complex then binds to and activates cytotoxic T-cells
Pathway 2 – Antibody-Mediatedy IMMUNITY
Remainder of article discusses this pathway

How Shot Works

  • Spike protein mRNA created from viral DNA spike protein sequence via revverse transcriptase
  • Spike protein mRNA transcribed by ribosomes to create spike protein
  • mRNA codes for the spike protein on corona viruses (37 corona viruses out there for at least 60 years, but only 7 infect humans)
  • WHAT SHE SAYS ABOUT TRANSFECTION DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME, AS TRANSFECTION IS INTRODUCTION OF FOREIGN DNA OR RNA ????
  • Host DNA is indirectly, not directly, affected
  • Spike protein binds to ACE receptor to gain entry into host cell to begin to replicate
  • It takes up to six weeks for this spike protein to be fully expressed & for re-exposure problems to surface
  • Then, host immune system generates AB against spike protein
  • The problem is that the AB against spike protein is a non-neutralizing AB, that it, it is NOT made against the entire virus, but only the spike protein
  • Spike protein antibody (AB) is a non-neutralizing antibody (unlike measles, mumps, chickenpox, shingles, etc. antibodies)
  • An antibody (AB) has 2 Fab fragments and 1 Fac fragment in the shape of a “Y” (which is creepy in an of itself ==> Family Y)
  • Fab fragments bind to antigen to neutralize it and make it go away
    With this shot, the Fac fragment causes alot of problems
  • FAc fragment can bind to tissue in the lungs, Eosinoophils, Basophilss, other receptors that can cause anaphalatic shock, can cause direct modification of macrophages, can cross react with human tissues to cause autoimmune disease via molecular mimicry
  • A key problem is B cell sensitization – the AB generating B cells retain memory of the AB forever (Memory B cells
  • We have no idea how long the spike protein will last in host
  • We have no idea how long the AB will last in host
  • We have no idea how long the B cells will continue to be active
  • For the rest of host’s life, host may be suseptible to autoimmune disease, shock, allergies & death from this injection
10 Mechanisms by which this Injection Can Cause Harm (Dr. Tenpenny can only cover a few in this video)

PEG – Polyethelene Glycol

  • The coding around the mRNA is unstable, so they had to encase it in a lipid bubble (liposome)
  • The lipid bubble contains PEG
  • Humans have been sensitized (i.e. primed or made allergic to) to PEG via many, many products over the decades
  • In 1960, about 2% of population was sensitized to PEG
  • In 2021, about 70-72% of population is now sensitized to PEG
  • PEG reaction can cause an acute allergic reaction and/or anaphalactic shock & death
  • PEG is in Moderna & Pfizer shots
Concept of “Re-Exposure” or Antibody Dependent Enhancement

  • There are many folks who have taken the shot and say “Look at me, I’ve had no problems !!!”
  • Well, the problem comes when that person is re-exposed to any of the corona viruses
  • The anti-spike AB can then set up autoimmune disease
  • Anti-spike AB can bind to spike protein, AG-AB complex internalized in macrophages (MP), RNA of virus released inside MP then causes
  • OVERWHELMING infection (MUCH WORSE than had you never had the shot)
  • They have been trying to develop ABs against corona virus since 2005 because the flu, a corona virus, has a large burden of disease WW and there are corona viruses other than flu that also have a large burden of illness (so getting a corona virus vaccine is desireable)
  • Scientists have NEVER been able to get their studies (ABs against the full virus) past the safety studies on rats, rabbits, ferrets, hamsters & monkeys). These animals all got extremely sick or died on re-exposure to corona virus. Failure on both safety & efficacy.
  • These evil, Cabal, DS scientists are very smart & have almost unlimited money to spend on their genocidal projects
  • With COVID vaccine, they did not even bother with animal studies, and went straight to humans
AG-AB complex Can Cross BBB

  • Can converts two proteins in the brain and cause them to malfunction
  • When these two proteins are corrupted, one can lead to ALS and one to Frontal Temporal Lobe Degeneration (Alzheimers Dementia)
  • Covid Vaccine linked to infertility (placental protein deviously & malevolently contained in shot causes generation of Anti-placenta AB)
Mechanism of Cytokine Storm

  • Macrophages (MPs) are the little garbage eaters of the immune system
  • Two types of macrophages (MP): MP1 & MP2
  • MP1 is active on initial infection
  • When MP1 attacks pathogen, cytokines are released
  • Cytokines are proinflammatory & cause fever & call in NK cells
  • As infection begins to resovle, MP2 come in like fire fighters to quell & calm the hot inflammatory soup & then begin to clean up debris
  • MP1 ==> increased cytokines (what you want in initial infection)
  • MP2 ==> decreased cytokines (also what you want to resolve initial infection)
  • The Anti-spike AB inactivates MP2s by binding by the FAc fragment to the MP2 cells ==> fire fighters CANNOT show up because they are inactivated
    So the cytokine storm goes on and on and on
  • The OFF SWITCH has been deactivated – “There is an ON SWITCH, but NO OFF SWITCH”
New J&J Shot

  • We have very little information on this shot
  • Spike protein is inserted into an adenovirus (> 100 different strains for adenovirus) to gain entry into host
  • Some adenoviruses turn on ONOCGENES that can cause cancer
Autoimmune Disease & the “Vaccine”

  • A well-know immunologist tested the Anti-spike AB on 55 tissue types to determine cross reactivity
  • The Anti-spike AB cross reacted with 28 of the tissue antigens
  • Thus, you can see how a plethora of autoimmune diseases can take hold.
  • Hundreds of Sx can look different, but underlying pathology is that the Anti-spike AB, via molecular mimicry, interacts with up to 28 different tissue AGs in multiple organ systems
VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)

  • As of 2/18/21 VAERS has over 1000 reported deaths
  • This is about 10% of what is out there, so 10,000 – 100,000 deaths are possible just SO FAR
  • > 19,0000 adverse events reported
  • This is about 10% of what is out there, so 190,000 to 1,000,000 adverse events are possible just SO FAR
  • In the next 4-18 months, we can expect to see massive injury & major death from these shots
FDA & CDC have violated 3 areas of Federal Law to allow the Emergency Use Authorization for the “Vaccine”

  • Given a 99.91 % Survivability of COVID , “Vaccine” is much less “effective” & this is part of Emergency Use Authorization criteria being violated
Other Effective Treatments that can also PREVENT infection

  • HCQ, Zinc, Ivermectin, High Dose Vitamin C & High Dose Vitamin D
 
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