analysis World War III

[oldtimer]

I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

IMO

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[.X.]

It is more likely than ever. Some companies in Taiwan are being instructed to switch to war production, the US is getting ready to provide 1B in anti tank and anti ship weapons, China has instructed its wealthy to sell assets that could be seized and Taiwan just announced they will target any intrusions into their air/water space.

I agree, the world is on the fringe of battles among one another , it’s not possible for a clear winner or winners IMO , world leaders need to STOP. Take deep breaths , and find solutions to the problems that affect the world IMO , inform the people of the countries, not just instill policies and procedures on the issues , and let the people of the world decide what we need to do to put the world back into productive order.

You never know, if that were to happen, we might even see world unity

 

[Mister Funsky]

One must be careful of windows in higher buildings...

Ravil Maganov: Russian Lukoil chief dies in 'fall from hospital window'​

The chairman of Russia's Lukoil oil giant, Ravil Maganov, has died after falling from a hospital window in Moscow, reports say.

The company confirmed his death but said only that Maganov, 67, had "passed away following a severe illness".

Russian media said he was being treated at Moscow's Central Clinical Hospital and died of his injuries.

Maganov is the latest of a number of high-profile business executives to die in mysterious circumstances.

Investigating authorities said they were working at the scene to establish how he died. Tass news agency quoted sources saying he had fallen out of a sixth-floor window early on Thursday morning, adding later that he had taken his own life.

Shortly after Russia invaded Ukraine, the Lukoil board called for the conflict to end as soon as possible, expressing its sympathy to victims of "this tragedy".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62750584

 

[ervines]

It is more likely than ever. Some companies in Taiwan are being instructed to switch to war production, the US is getting ready to provide 1B in anti tank and anti ship weapons, China has instructed its wealthy to sell assets that could be seized and Taiwan just announced they will target any intrusions into their air/water space.

The situation is serious, it's frightening.

 

[.X.]

Via Yahoo : Russia Warns US Of Sending Long Range Weapons To Ukraine.

After reading some comments regarding the article , it’s a mixed bag, a lot see no nuclear threat from Russia , while some have concern that Russia could launch on the US

My position on it is, let’s don’t find out. I feel China is the only country that could keep Russia from launching nukes on the US , if it came to that , I feel China would have to enter into the Ukraine war with Russia and end it.

I still do not see a way that Ukraine can win this conflict , especially with the above said , because if push comes to shove , China is going to enter IMO So I am not sure what Zelensky sees as an end result for Ukraine . Victory? Fought the good fight? I guess the possibility of China getting caught up in its own war with Taiwan, which would include the USA , could reprieve Ukraine long enough to try and slide in a victory ?

This conflict is the most confusing

 

[tonyk2000]

U.S. Senator Richard H. Black: "The US and NATO don't care how many Ukrainians die"

 

[Sutruk]

U.S. Senator Richard H. Black: "The US and NATO don't care how many Ukrainians die"

The only one who doesn't care how many Ukrainians die is who is killing them, Putler.

 

[redemo]

Meanwhile at the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory https://www.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone.

 

[Mister Funsky]

Having several members of my family in primary and higher education, makes this an especially heartwarming video.

Emine Dzheppar @EmineDzheppar September 14, 2022

#Ukrainian pupils meet their teacher Roman Palamarchuk who visits them from the frontline in the middle of their class. Their reaction is priceless.
Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes! #SlavaUkraini!#StandWithUkraine#StopRussianWar

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[.X.]

For the first time in the Russia - Ukraine conflict I am seeing a path to victory for Ukraine , that if China doesn’t enter the war theater with Russia , the Russian military appears to be losing its will right now. If Ukraine can keep on the territories that they have taken back , I think the Russians may make one push and if it fails Russia will pull out of Ukraine . The Russians can’t really so called regroup now IMO , if Russia keeps the war solely conventional warfare , the war should be over before December IMO … the exits and reentries have run a toll on the Russians IMO

 

[Embrand]

if Russia keeps the war solely conventional warfare , the war should be over before December IMO …

Yes, this is the big "if". Only one person can answer that. But if the war (hopefully) ends, the list just never seems to end. Kosovo-Serbia? Taiwan-China? Greece-Turkey?

 

[.X.]

Yes, this is the big "if". Only one person can answer that. But if the war (hopefully) ends, the list just never seems to end. Kosovo-Serbia? Taiwan-China? Greece-Turkey?

I agree , it’s very hard for me to vision what Putin may or may not do , Putin knows if he loses this war his legacy will be flopped completely, but if Putins interior gets him before he can act in anything , Putin is done .

I am not as concerned with China - Twain as much as I am Turkey - Greece .. i think China is saber rattling Taiwan, Turkey on the hand has never been known for saber rattling , the Turks don’t play . So the possibility of that conflict is concerning. Kosovo - Serbia , should they engage wouldn’t be on the world stage IMO ..

 

[Sutruk]

This is why Ukrainians are fighting so hard against russian invasion and aggression. They know that once Putler invades a village or city in Ukraine, his terrorists will massacre and kill everybody that shows some support for Ukraine. This is a complete genocide and annihilation of ukrainians by Putler.
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Ukraine says victims from Izium mass grave show signs of torture​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...covered-in-recaptured-izium-says-police-chief

Oleg Synegubov, the regional governor, said some of the more than 440 bodies buried in a forest near the north-eastern city also had their hands tied behind their backs.

“We are at the site of the mass burial of people, civilians who were buried here, and now, according to our information, they all have the signs of violent death,” Synegubov said at the site.

The Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, on Thursday evening accused Russia of “leaving death everywhere” after the discovery of the site. He likened the find, in an area recaptured this week from Russian forces, to the previous mass killings of civilians in the cities of Bucha, outside Kyiv, and Mariupol.

Men in white overalls began digging out bodies on Friday as part of a mass exhumation at the site, reporters with the Reuters news agency said, and 20 white bodybags could be seen. Reuters reported that several bodies had rope tied around their necks and hands.

 

[.X.]

Biden warns Putin not to ‘change the face of war’ by using nuclear or chemical weapon​

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-warns-putin-not-change-190906250.html

The only reason this announcement Biden brings me concern, Biden wouldn't have said those words unless he was given intel that may point to Putin doing such IMO.

This is going to get even nastier before its over, there is no doubt in my mind that China is keeping close tabs on the situation, China is the only one that could stop Putin from launching nukes, But, in order to stop such, Xi Jinping would have to the Chinese military to enter the war and help finish it on Putin behalf. which could, cause a world war. Putins lack of mental stability is being monitored closely by China, so in the event that Putin completely loses his mind and decides to launch, China will know before hand.

If somehow Putin and Russia can be worn down militarily, without Putin launching or China entering Ukraine on behalf of Russia, Ukraine has a path to victory.

 

[tonyk2000]

Partial Mobilization in Russia​

Putin announced that in light of the latest developments in Donbass, he had signed a decree on partial mobilization in Russia. “In this situation, I consider it necessary to take the following decisions, they are fully adequate to the threats we face. Namely: to protect our Motherland, its sovereignty and territorial integrity, to ensure the security of our people and people in the liberated territories, I consider it necessary to support the proposal of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff on conducting partial mobilization in Russia,” the Russian president said. He added that mobilization will begin on Wednesday, noting that only reservists will be subject to conscription, first of all those who have relevant experience and military professions.

Source: sputniknews.com

 

[Mister Funsky]

The 'annexation' announced overnight and the draw up of troops, in addition to the rhetoric in the televised speech (the first one since the war began if I am correct) is a significant step toward escalation.

Below is one of the things I read daily to try to get information.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdJ5XGRX0AISGq5?format=jpg&name=medium

 

[Mister Funsky]

It seems NATO is taking the speech at face value. More than usual aircraft are in the region. The link below shows a Stratofortress on station. Directly between that aircraft and Moscow is a Russian early warning aircraft.

https://www.flightradar24.com/RUMOR12/2d8bfd83

wow...there were TWO of them flying in tandem

https://www.flightradar24.com/RUMOR11/2d8ca680

 

[Sutruk]

Namely: to protect our Motherland, its sovereignty and territorial integrity, to ensure the security of our people and people in the liberated territories

I really find hard that anyone with a minimum knowledge in Russia can fall to this incredible stupidity and lies.

Nobody is invading Russia, nor is in danger its sovereignity and territorial integrity. It is Russia (I always say Putler, because I want to refuse to think that all russians approve the dictator massacre in Ukraine) who has invaded, and is currently massacring innocent people in a peaceful DEMOCRACY).

And then Putin says "liberated territories"... man, liberated from what? from DEMOCRACY? they are INVADED territories. By the way, anyone in those "liberated territories" that shows some support for Ukraine is being tortured and killed by Putler.

That was the playbook of Hitler and that is the playbook of Putin right now.

Putler has panic to see Ukraine as a democracy and as a part of Europe. He has panic to see that because if Ukraine enters the EU and becomes even a more prosperous country, PUTLER IS AFRAID THAT RUSSIAN PEOPLE WILL WANT ALSO TO LIVE IN DEMOCRACY, not in a dictatorship like now, and then they (the population) could prosecute him for his crimes, even in Russia.

 

[Sutruk]

The 'annexation' announced overnight and the draw up of troops, in addition to the rhetoric in the televised speech (the first one since the war began if I am correct) is a significant step toward escalation.

What that shows is the desperation of Putler in his invasion. Things are not going well for him there.
As I said at the beginning of this invasion, Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom, for their people and for their lives, more even after seeing the torture, looting and massacre of innocent population made in the recovered territories like Bucha and Izium, while the terrorists sent to Ukraine by Putler are just fighting for money, but they know they should not be there massacring innocent people.

So after Putler has tried to fill his army with prisoners from Russian jails, it seems it isn't still enough to cover the mass losses and desertions among russian lines.

 

[tonyk2000]

I really find hard that anyone with a minimum knowledge in Russia can fall to this incredible stupidity and lies.

This (I mean the translation) was reported by RU-owned "sputnik news", so they no doubts translated correctly what was said in an Address to the Nation.

It is worth mentioning that almost if not all remaining international airline tickets (closest dates) from Russia to visa-free countries were sold out almost immediately after this announcement.

 

[Sutruk]

As it seems that recruiting thieves and killers is not enough to cover massive Russian losses and desertions between Russian lines, now Putler calls for a partial mobilisation of Russia.
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‘We thieves and killers are now fighting Russia’s war’: how Moscow recruits from its prisons​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/20/russia-recruits-inmates-ukraine-war-wagner-prigozhin

"But not all prisoners going to Ukraine appear to be ready to fight for Russia. Yury Butusov, a Ukrainian journalist, published an interview last week with a Russian prisoner recruited to fight in Ukraine and captured by Kyiv who said he had used the opportunity given by Prigozhin to hand himself over to Ukraine.

“I told myself that when I came, I would do whatever it took to surrender,” the prisoner said, citing his anti-war stance and adding that he hoped to fight for Ukraine against Russia.

Whatever the eventual impact on the war, the extraordinary footage of Prigozhin recruiting prisoners has already been described by observers as one of the defining, grim images of Putin’s presidency.

“The truth is,” said Ivan, the inmate from Tambov, “we, thieves and killers, are now fighting Russia’s war.”