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I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

IMO

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I see on AlJazeera Arabic the ship has sunk, they're blaming it on a storm during evacuation.
A storm :xf.laugh: storm of Ukrainian missiles more like.

Funny how Russia prefer to say it sunk as result of their own incompetence rather than saying Ukraine sunk it.
 
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With so many contradicting news you almost had to be on the ship to know exactly what happened.

Sometimes the most reliable sources are direct, which is why Ukraine has asked their population not to post on social media (logistics/intelligence concerns), but here's a night shot of supposed attack on Moskva (ss. Moscow)

- Вы будете смеяться, но…Чернобаевка-15.

Склады с боеприпасами 22-го армейского корпуса (Крым) уничтожены.

Плюс - флагман Черноморского флота РФ крейсер «Москва» произвёл отрицательное всплытие в районе того острова, где его послали на йух.

Где «Москва»? «Она утонула».


It gets worse for Russia. No way will Turkey allow one of the remaining two ‘Slava’-class cruisers into the Black Sea to replace ‘Moskva.’ Russia lost half its naval firepower off Ukraine and can’t restore it without going to war with NATO. forbes.com/sites/davidaxe…

 
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This video is attack #15 on Chornobaivka...

Thanks, it looked familiar...very difficult to determine at night, and especially if you don't speak the language.
 
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very difficult to determine at night, and especially if you don't speak the language.
Perhaps you (and others) should add this as a disclaimer to your future posts. :)
 
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Yes, it seems that the Moskva cruiser finally has sunk:

Russia says Moskva cruiser has sunk after reported Ukrainian missile strike​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...kva-cruiser-sunk-stormy-seas-defense-ministry

"Russia’s flagship cruiser Moskva has sunk in “stormy seas” while being towed to a port in the Black Sea, the Russian defence ministry announced.

The Ukrainian southern military command claimed late on Wednesday to have struck the Moskva with Neptune anti-ship missiles, causing it to start sinking and forcing the crew to abandon ship.

Russia’s defence ministry initially denied reports that it had sunk and claimed the fires had been extinguished.
But late on Thursday, the ministry said in a statement: “The cruiser ship Moskva lost its stability when it was towed to the port because of the damage to the ship’s hull that it received during the fire from the detonation of ammunition. In stormy sea conditions, the ship sank”.
 
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I wonder which is worse for Russia to say that the ship was hit by Ukrainian missiles or that it was sabotaged.

Either way they took it to deeper waters and sank it to get all the attention off of this incident.

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Perhaps you (and others) should add this as a disclaimer to your future posts. :)
I didn't say it was a positive ID.

Sometimes the most reliable sources are direct, which is why Ukraine has asked their population not to post on social media (logistics/intelligence concerns), but here's a night shot of supposed attack on Moskva (ss. Moscow)
Case in point: A night shot of explosions posted online can be used in multiple propaganda campaigns.
Obviously this message was intended for a Russian audience.

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The poster of this video. Olga, is from Ukraine and now living in Denmark. Before the war, one of the things she did for a living was help those speaking only English make plans for visiting Ukraine. I have friends that have visited Ukraine over the last few years and she was instrumental in helping them have an enjoyable time (lodging, activities, restaurants, etc.)


 
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According to 'Russian' officials...

Ukraine helicopters strike homes in cross-border attack​


The Ukrainian government's Center for Countering Disinformation accused Russia's intelligence services of implementing "a plan to carry out terrorist acts to whip up anti-Ukrainian hysteria" in Russia, according to a statement.

It mentioned two purported attacks in the western Russian city of Bryansk but nothing about an air strike.

"On April 14, 2022, using two combat helicopters equipped with heavy offensive weapons, military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine illegally entered the airspace of the Russian Federation," Russia's investigative committee said in a statement.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...fired-mortars-bryansk-border-post-2022-04-14/
 
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According to 'Russian' officials...

Ukraine helicopters strike homes in cross-border attack​


The Ukrainian government's Center for Countering Disinformation accused Russia's intelligence services of implementing "a plan to carry out terrorist acts to whip up anti-Ukrainian hysteria" in Russia, according to a statement.

It mentioned two purported attacks in the western Russian city of Bryansk but nothing about an air strike.

"On April 14, 2022, using two combat helicopters equipped with heavy offensive weapons, military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine illegally entered the airspace of the Russian Federation," Russia's investigative committee said in a statement.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...fired-mortars-bryansk-border-post-2022-04-14/
You forgot the first (and important) part of the headline :xf.wink:

Russia says Ukraine helicopters strike homes in cross-border attack​


Edit: OK, you put it at the beginning with smaller font :xf.grin: "According to 'Russian' officials..."
 
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Excellent , a perfect example of how possible false theater can be made to fool the masses
Putin's media would have put a "CNN" logo in the video and show it like it was true. And only the masses already "ready" to be fooled would believe it. In fact, Putin's false propaganda is mainly made to fool its own population.
 
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If I was Ukraine, I'd think about making this my wartime emblem. Put it on flags, uniforms, ......


 
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I suspect that the ship was still operational despite all the damage that it had received but had become so heavily contaminated by radioactive materials that they had no choice but to sink it.

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