analysis World War III

[oldtimer]

I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

IMO

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[Jevsim]

Blah Blah. Go spread your nonsense somewhere else.

Orwell's dystopian novel 1984: “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

People can see the atrocities committed by the Russian military in Ukraine with their own eyes. Own it.

Brad

Y are a typical communist. Lol

 

[BRANDERX]

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Mind sharing where you got this from? Is it recent, has it been verified etc?

 

[Jevsim]

I would suggest you edit your post. You have me quoted as saying something I never said.

Brad

I would suggest you, Brad, stop distributing unproven communistic propaganda.

 

[bmugford]

I would suggest you, Brad, stop distributing unproven communistic propaganda.

Alright, I will go ahead and just report the post then as you attributed a quote I never said to me.
That is how disinformation works. Well done.

Brad

 

[Jevsim]

Just google it. Batalion Azov. A lot of pictures were taken by them. They are very proud of it.

 

[Jevsim]

Alright, I will go ahead and just report the post then as you attributed a quote I never said to me.
That is how disinformation works. Well done.

Brad

Dear Brad, I support justice.

 

[bmugford]

Dear Brad, I support justice.

You literally just quoted something I never said. Post #2138.

No idea WTF you are going on about.

Brad

 

[oldtimer]

Guys lets keep things on the civil and constructive side,

And Brad is right, when making a quote make sure it's under the right name.

IMO

 

[oldtimer]

Ukraine President to address the UN Security Council today.

News of more killings and atrocities pouring in from other liberated Cities.

It appears that this operation (War) has been mishandled very badly in so many different respects.

IMO

 

[BRANDERX]

Tried to look for neutral sources for info on the Azov Battalion, I think most sources agree they are an extremist group founded by white supremacists to fight Russians in the 2014 war I think. It has been incorporated into the Ukrainian national guard in recent years.

My understanding is that, all that was overlooked because the group is very good at fighting Russia.

Very interesting, I didn't know all that.


Here's a recent article on them from DW, they explain it well.

https://www.dw.com/en/the-azov-battalion-extremists-defending-mariupol/a-61151151

 

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Dmytro Kuleba @DmytroKuleba April 5, 2022

To avert ‘new Buchas’, impose the mother of all sanctions: stop buying oil, gas, and coal from Russia. Stop financing Putin’s war machine. Russian economy — and its war — would stop in the matter of months. A few months of tightening your belts are worth thousands of saved lives.

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But two weeks ago, Russia was getting its ass kicked , remember? Now media is reporting that Russia is slaughtering Ukrainians .

Because the news reporting is so bad, I spend to much time researching stuff that the media could have reported to begin with. It’s beginning to be that “No” News is good news , the media is shilling so much propaganda, and it’s very pathetic to do on their part.

 

[Sutruk]

It appears that this operation (War) has been mishandled very badly in so many different respects.

Putin's aggression has been mishandled from the very first second he invaded Ukraine.
How can you handle something properly when you are invading a sovereign democracy without any provocation?

Besides that, Putin's previous aggressions in other sites (Chechnya and Syria) have followed the same path of terror and civilian mass killing. He is a mass murderer and he always has operated that way.

 

[Sutruk]

But two weeks ago, Russia was getting its ass kicked , remember? Now media is reporting that Russia is slaughtering Ukrainians .

Have you seen the images from the massacre of Bucha? Have you seen the hundreds of civilian buildings bombed by Putin's troops every week? Is that slaughtering civilians, or it is just also media propaganda for you?

 

[anf]

My understanding is that, all that was overlooked because the group is very good at fighting Russia.

They were not just overlooked, There are evidence that they were funded by US. https://www.planet-today.com/2022/04/america-is-funding-arming-and-training.html

 

[anf]

Have you seen the images from the massacre of Bucha? Have you seen the hundreds of civilian buildings bombed by Putin's troops every week? Is that slaughtering civilians, or it is just also media propaganda for you?

Just some numbers:
for more then month total 1,417 civilians killed https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2022/04/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-3-april-2022. So, a 200,000 army bombing buildings, using heavy artillery, slaughtering civilians, burning cities to the ground, managed to kill about 40 civilians per day. Don't you thing that numbers don't add up? So, may be civilians are not the target?

Compare this with approx 500,000 dead because USA invasion into IRAQ.

 

[oldtimer]

Compare this with approx 500,000 dead because USA invasion into IRAQ.

In my opinion intentionally and willfully committing extreme cruelties and atrocities on 1000 people is worse than having 500k collateral casualties.

Nevertheless we need to put an end to all the torture and killings all around the World.

IMO

 

[anf]

In my opinion intentionally and willfully committing extreme cruelties and atrocities on 1000 people is worse than having 500k collateral casualties.

I completely agree. But so far, I have not seen a single evidence that a russian soldier intentionally killed a civilian.

Nevertheless we need to put an end to all the torture and killings all around the World.

Completely agree.

 

[.X.]

Have you seen the images from the massacre of Bucha? Have you seen the hundreds of civilian buildings bombed by Putin's troops every week? Is that slaughtering civilians, or it is just also media propaganda for you?

The propaganda is reporting misleading information to the world, if we simply take what the media says as the Truth, we would obviously be lead down a long road of confusion, and that is where we are at right now.

One day, Russia is killing Ukrainians like Russia is obliterating Ukraine , the next day, Ukraine is kicking Russias ass good.

The Ukraine military didn’t just leave these pictured civilians to fend for themselves , the Ukraine military is there with these civilians , rather military battles took place and other factors , they matter , what exactly happens, matters , otherwise we will assume what we want .

 

[Tatiana_B]

The Attorney General’s Office: Photojournalist Levin was killed by two shots from small arms​

https://army.com.ua/hot-news/the-at...-was-killed-by-two-shots-from-small-arms.html

A criminal case has been opened over the murder of photojournalist Maksym Levin in the Kyiv region.

According to the Attorney General’s Office, unarmed Levin was killed by Russian Armed Forces with two shots from small arms.

The case is being investigated on the fact of violation of the laws and customs of war (Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine). The pre-trial investigation continues, measures are being taken to establish all the circumstances of the crime, the report says.

According to the investigation, in March 2022, the connection with Levin, who covered the events related to the military aggression of the Russian Federation in the Kiev region, disappeared.

The journalist’s body was found in the village of Huta Mezhyhirska, Vyshhorod district.

Maksym Levin is a well-known Ukrainian photojournalist, documentary photographer and cameraman. Collaborated with Reuters, BBC, TRT World, Associated Press, Hromadske, LB.ua.

 

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The Attorney General’s Office: Photojournalist Levin was killed by two shots from small arms​

https://army.com.ua/hot-news/the-at...-was-killed-by-two-shots-from-small-arms.html

A criminal case has been opened over the murder of photojournalist Maksym Levin in the Kyiv region.

According to the Attorney General’s Office, unarmed Levin was killed by Russian Armed Forces with two shots from small arms.

The case is being investigated on the fact of violation of the laws and customs of war (Article 438 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine). The pre-trial investigation continues, measures are being taken to establish all the circumstances of the crime, the report says.

According to the investigation, in March 2022, the connection with Levin, who covered the events related to the military aggression of the Russian Federation in the Kiev region, disappeared.

The journalist’s body was found in the village of Huta Mezhyhirska, Vyshhorod district.

Maksym Levin is a well-known Ukrainian photojournalist, documentary photographer and cameraman. Collaborated with Reuters, BBC, TRT World, Associated Press, Hromadske, LB.ua.

One day , sooner than later people are going to figure out the Russia - Ukraine conflict is full scale War, not a pissing match , War means death and destruction , this is the same Rhetoric - Propaganda format the media turned to in the beginning of the War.

Zelensky tells the media that Russian military killed civilians for fun and entertainment, that was on Yahoo today , this is the exact shit I speak about , it’s obvious over rolling Propaganda IMO .

It’s a Fucking War people , War , not show me yours, I’ll show you mine, tit for tat and ect , full blown War, guns with real bullets , bombs with real loads of explosives. The Russians hunting the Ukrainian military , the Ukraine military hunting the Russian military, War is brutal , not an exhibit