analysis World War III

[oldtimer]

I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

IMO

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[33S]

Also if you think other counties that started aggressive destructive wars should face no comparable consequences (hell, even a half of that) just for not being called Russia, you're excusing evil.

Actually you are the one who is excusing evil. You are excusing the massacre and genocide of innocent people your current leader is causing right now in Ukraine saying that other countries did it also (and that's false).

In my original post:

- I did condemn the war:

This is a tragedy. Our leadership made a terrible decision.

- I specifically said this war is not OK because other countries got away with their wars:

Again, I’m not saying this war is somewhat OK because other countries got away with their wars. It’s not.

The problem is with other countries facing no consequences for the damage they've done.

Also, not even the biggest geopolitical rivals of Russia are talking about "genocide". Only you.

What's going on is wrong and shop stop. War is wrong end evil.

However it's insane to assert that Russian-hit civilian objects were definitely hit on purpose and other invading countries hit civilian object purely by mistake. I mean, how do you imagine such a debate, you show me a shelled Ukrainian home, I show you a shelled Yemeni/Iraqi home, and then what? You'll say there was a rebel vehicle nearby that survived and drove off before the picture was taken or there were probably fighters on the roof but Ukrainian home was definitely hit on purpose because it's a home not a bunker? Do you have any idea about hundreds of thousands of dead civilians thanks to the Iraq war? Really? Do you think they all killed themselves? Do you actually think it's impossible to find evidence of civilians being hit in a negligent way or even on purpose by countries that are not Russia? Ukraine itself shelled residential areas of Donbass for 8 years, recently they fired a Tochka-U at the center of Donetsk, that killed 17 civilians.

This unprovable false distinction allows you to argue against consequences for other countries for waging aggressive wars. That is evil.

In fact, I found myself repeating my points. Seems like I'll be doing that more if I keep arguing with you, so I won't.

 

[sellian]

Do you actually think it's impossible to find evidence of civilians being hit in a negligent way or even on purpose by countries that are not Russia?

Well, Mr. Julian Assange did reveal footage of some of the nastiest things perpetrated by the US and we all know what happened to him.

 

[Sutruk]

Also, not even the biggest geopolitical rivals of Russia are talking about "genocide". Only you.

The russian war criminal (Putin) accused Ukraine of genocide in Donbass. That's typical of the russian tyrant, to accuse others of the crime that he is going to perpetrate.
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Zelensky: Russia's deadly hospital bombing proof of genocide​

https://www.axios.com/zelensky-russ...ide-d232ebc5-c615-4d7b-8edb-565f91ddc8b3.html

"Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky said the Russian military's bombing of a children's hospital and maternity ward in Mariupol on Wednesday was a "war crime" and "proof that the genocide of Ukrainians is taking place."

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However it's insane to assert that Russian-hit civilian objects were definitely hit on purpose and other invading countries hit civilian object purely by mistake.

What is seeking Putin by daily bombing civilian buildings, supermarkets, hospitals and residential zones? What is seeking Putin by cutting water, electricity, food supply while besieging big cities? (same tactics as Hitler did, by the way). He is seeking to kill as much civilians as possible. He is a war criminal and a terrorist.

Either you are blind or you are clearly only watching Russian TV or Sputnik TV to say that your leader is not targeting civilian buildings on purpose. That's the really insane here.

The russian terrorist dictator is bombing daily dozens of civilian buildings on purpose and the only fact that you say that's not true shows how brainwashed by Russian TV are you at the moment.

You can easily find dozens of videos of the atrocities your leader is causing in Ukraine, in youtube and other sources, although I really doubt you can see them in Russia thank to Putin's censorship.

 

[Sutruk]

The problem is with other countries facing no consequences for the damage they've done.

No other country has done the targeted massacre of civilians that your leader is causing now, since Hitler.
No other country has invaded a sovereign democracy and started to mass kill its civilians, constantly targeting and shelling civilian buildings, hospitals, supermarkets, schools.

No other country has besieged big cities, cut off water, food and electricity supply while daily bombing its civilians, with the only aim to terrify, starve and kill the highest number of civilians as possible, since Hitler.

Putin aggression is a terrorist aggression over ukrainian population, not a war. Because in a war, the military does not target civilians on purpose like what is doing the russian dictator.

 

[sellian]

No other country has done the targeted massacre of civilians that your leader is causing now, since Hitler.
No other country has invaded a sovereign democracy and started to mass kill its civilians, constantly targeting and shelling civilian buildings, hospitals, supermarkets, schools.

No other country has besieged big cities, cut off water, food and electricity supply while daily bombing its civilians, with the only aim to terrify, starve and kill the highest number of civilians as possible.

Putin aggression is a terrorist aggression over ukrainian population, not a war. Because in a war, the military do not target civilians on purpose like what is doing the russian dictator.

Bro, stop it now! USA has done ALL of that a MILLION times, period.

 

[sellian]

 

[Sutruk]

Bro, stop it now! USA has done ALL of that a MILLION times, period.

Bro, Putin is the only terrorist that has done it before, in Syria and Chechnya.

 

[Sutruk]

'Why? Why? Why?' Ukraine's Mariupol descends into despair​

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...-putin-mariupol-siege-bodies-buried-rcna20229

"This southern seaport has become a symbol of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s drive to crush democratic Ukraine — but also of a fierce resistance on the ground.

MARIUPOL, Ukraine — The bodies of the children all lie here, dumped into this narrow trench hastily dug into the frozen earth of Mariupol to the constant drumbeat of shelling.

There’s 18-month-old Kirill, whose shrapnel wound to the head proved too much for his little toddler’s body. There’s 16-year-old Iliya, whose legs were blown up in an explosion during a soccer game at a school field. There’s the girl no older than 6 who wore the pajamas with cartoon unicorns, among the first of Mariupol’s children to die from a Russian shell.

They are stacked together with dozens of others in this mass grave on the outskirts of the city. A man covered in a bright blue tarp, weighed down by stones at the crumbling curb. A woman wrapped in a red and gold bedsheet, her legs neatly bound at the ankles with a scrap of white fabric. Workers toss the bodies in as fast as they can, because the less time they spend in the open, the better their own chances of survival."

 

[sellian]

Bro, Putin is the only terrorist that has done it before, in Syria and Chechnya.

You look SO brave. Why aren't you physically fighting with the brave Ukrainians against Hitler instead of typing and sending non-sense behind your computer?

 

[sellian]

The video is 20 minutes long and it already has 2 dislikes 2 minutes after I posted it. Proof that people don't even bother to watch.

 

[Sutruk]

You look SO brave. Why aren't you physically fighting with the brave Ukrainians against Hitler instead of typing and sending non-sense behind your computer?

The brave is your russian Hitler, cowardly bombing and mass killing innocent civilians while he is in his palace.
I just report what's happening in the world. A current Hitler is invading a sovereign democracy and killing civilians that only wanted to continue living their lives.
The true "nonsense" is to support the atrocities that the current russian dictator is comminting in Ukraine.

 

[sellian]

The brave is your russian Hitler, cowardly bombing and mass killing innocent civilians while he is in his palace.
I just report what's happening in the world. A current Hitler is invading a sovereign democracy and killing civilians that only wanted to continue living their lives.
The true "nonsense" is to support the atrocities that the current russian dictator is comminting in Ukraine.

Why aren't you fighting then? You seem to be a very brave and tough guy. This just looks like the perfect opportunity for you to shine by showing the world how BRAVE you are. They may name a street after you or build a monument with your name on it.

 

[Sutruk]

'Can you imagine?' war-hit Ukrainian president paints dire picture for Canadians​

https://www.todayonline.com/world/c...esident-paints-dire-picture-canadians-1847486

"Nearly 100 children have died in Russia's invasion of Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Tuesday, pleading for more Western support and asking Canadian lawmakers in a video address to imagine the impact of such a war on their own country.

"They're destroying everything: memorial complexes, schools, hospitals, housing complex. They already killed 97 Ukrainian children. We are not asking for much. We are asking for justice, for real support," Zelenskiy said through an interpreter."

 

[sellian]

'Can you imagine?' war-hit Ukrainian president paints dire picture for Canadians​

https://www.todayonline.com/world/c...esident-paints-dire-picture-canadians-1847486

"Nearly 100 children have died in Russia's invasion of Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Tuesday, pleading for more Western support and asking Canadian lawmakers in a video address to imagine the impact of such a war on their own country.

"They're destroying everything: memorial complexes, schools, hospitals, housing complex. They already killed 97 Ukrainian children. We are not asking for much. We are asking for justice, for real support," Zelenskiy said through an interpreter."

Ok, I just realized I was talking to a robot. My bad NamePros members!

 

[Cannuck]

Pew Research Center survey found that 35 percent of Americans supported the U.S. taking military action "even if it risks a nuclear conflict with Russia."

https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...-u-s-response-to-russias-invasion-of-ukraine/

 

[Kingslayer]

Sounds like a deal could be close, which is great news. But another part of me says Ukraine should say FU and agree to no terms and that they will never stop fighting until ALL Russian invaders are off Ukrainian soil.

I know that is a bit Hollywood movie scenario and easy to say for me watching things unfold from where I am in another country away from this. But I honestly do believe Russia need a way out just as much as Ukraine, the loses that Russia forces are enduring on the battlefield (life and resources) how Russian troops are all confused/morale is low and progress is little with no feasible end goal plan, I was reading an article about it yesterday, it is just a matter of time before they have to pull out anyway.

A deal is the best scenario, not just for Ukraine but for world security, as each second this carries on innocent life will be lost so a deal will save life’s. But I can’t help but feel a deal will save face for Putin, he will try to claim victory/how the invasion was justified and it won’t be the end of him how we all hope this disaster of a decision has been for him.

 

[wwwulff]

Great use for Loser.com

 

[Cal2]

But of course 'they' won't tell you the backstory. Russel Brand does a good job of connecting the dots IMO

Having a Ukrainian background on my mom's side, I got some of their backstory on how it was to live under Russia/Russians. There was never any talk about 'the good old days'. Ukraine wants democracy over that, even if democracy isn't as perfect as it could be. Some of my ancestors chose it sooner, escaping Russia Ukraine when they were starving, and ending up in Canada. Lucky me for their having done that.

 

[Cal2]

The video is 20 minutes long and it already has 2 dislikes 2 minutes after I posted it. Proof that people don't even bother to watch.

I'd take it more as some people on here not liking you.

 

[sellian]

I'd take it more as some people on here not liking you.