analysis World War III

[oldtimer]

I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

IMO

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[Sutruk]

The russian Hitler may see himself as the new Stalin, says Johnson. Even if he is a real copy of Hitler, yes he definitely it's also quite similar to Stalin, the other mass murderer dictator in Russian history.
In fact, Stalin mass-starved 10 million Ukrainians in the past.

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Vladimir Putin: Russian leader commanding Ukraine war sees himself as new Stalin, says Boris Johnson​

https://news.sky.com/story/vladimir...elf-as-new-stalin-says-boris-johnson-12569257

"The prime minister said he had never witnessed such "a clear difference between good and evil" with the Russian leader unleashing a war "to conquer and subjugate, to crush a totally innocent country".

Pressed over concerns about the use of nuclear weapons and the threat of World War Three, the Tory leader said: "This is a conventional war by Vladimir Putin to conquer and subjugate, to crush a totally innocent country and a totally innocent civilian population who've done nothing wrong - none of them.

"And I think that what he wants is to get away with it and in order to get away with it, he's going to try to sound threatening to the rest of the world about what could happen, including use of the types of weapons that you describe.

"But I think it is very important that we treat that as a complete distraction.

"This is about helping the people of Ukraine to protect themselves. They have every right to defend themselves."

 

[Sutruk]

The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, denounced Russia on Friday for their false allegations about "biological weapons".

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...an-attacks-hit-near-lviv-n1292187#ncrd1292309

"There are no Ukrainian biological weapons laboratories — not near Russia's border, not anywhere. There are only public health facilities, proudly — and I say proudly — supported and recognized by the U.S. government, the World Health Organization, and other governments and international institutions," she said. "In fact, it is Russia that has long maintained a biological weapons program in violation of international law. It is Russia that has a well-documented history of using chemical weapons. It is Russia who is the aggressor here."

The ambassador said the U.S. has deep concerns that Russia's decision to call Friday's meeting over the allegations "is a potential false flag effort in action."

"Russia has repeatedly — repeatedly — accused other countries of the very violations it plans to perpetrate. We continue to believe it is possible that Russia may be planning to use chemical or biological agents against the Ukrainian people," she said.

 

[Kingslayer]

They have been recruited for the rally by the russian Hitler. The most amount of brave russian protesters have been jailed by the russian terrorist in chief. The coward dictator is afraid of russians freely expressing their opinion against the war and against his war crimes in Ukraine.

It just reminded me of Nazi Germany when Hitler did all his speeches trying to intimidate the enemy.

As a non-American looking in at US politics, something always disturbed me with Trump’s rallies, a narcissist stood the centre spouting lies and normal looking/attractive people cheering believing anything he came out with, but this was on a whole different level of concerning.

This nation is trying to wipe their neighbours of the map/children and everything and then you see a stadium full of Russian people smiling/flag waving and cheering while the dictator is talking about it, I’m not sure if they are oblivious to what is happening or just don’t care, but either scenario is just as grim.

 

[topdom]

Connection between "Ukraine" and Covid: blue-yellow programming.

See the middle part of (for example start from: 24:00 )

https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-c...d-japan-earthquake-we-the-people-3622449.html

 

[mr-x]

Where do you see those labs have "anthrax"? By the way, Anthrax is an infection caused by the bacterium Bacillus anthracis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthrax

Wed Mar 9, 2022 - 10:51 am EST
(LifeSiteNews) — Unearthed emails show that the U.S. assisted with setting up biosecurity laboratories in Ukraine, as a high-ranking U.S. official acknowledges that the U.S. does have such laboratories in Ukraine, despite former denials.

The National Pulse reported March 8 it had unearthed a since-deleted 2010 article showing that then-Sen. Barack Obama had been involved in setting up a laboratory since 2005 — the Interim Central Reference Laboratory in Odessa.

“The level-3 bio-safety lab, which is the first built under the expanded authority of the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction program, will be used to study anthrax, tularemia and Q fever as well as other dangerous pathogens,” read the article.

As noted by The National Pulse, the Odessa-based bio-lab was referenced in a 2011 report (from the U.S. National Academy of Sciences’ Committee on Anticipating Biosecurity Challenges of the Global Expansion of High-Containment Biological Laboratories), explaining how the laboratory “is responsible for the identification of especially dangerous biological pathogens.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/d...s-as-confusion-reigns-over-pathogens-studied/

 

[oldtimer]

This nation is trying to wipe their neighbours of the map/children and everything and then you see a stadium full of Russian people smiling/flag waving and cheering while the dictator is talking about it, I’m not sure if they are oblivious to what is happening or just don’t care, but either scenario is just as grim.

We like to think that all people around the World have at least a few shared Principles and Values that come from being members of the human race.

But in reality not only that people from different places around the World don’t have many things in common in the way of their thinking and ideals, but in many cases a lot of their Principles and Values might be exactly the opposite to one another.

That’s why we saw people cheering in Saudi Arabia a week ago when 81 people were executed in one day (most likely were beheaded as that is their custom) or that we see small children being executed in the womb without a second thought in other places or people cherishing the death of other human beings during a War.

People who live under Capitalism, Communism, Religious Fundamentalism, Socialism and all those other “isms” are brainwashed from childhood to think a certain way by the environment that surrounds them.

The only way to see the truth and find the right path is for people to free themselves from the existing mindsets that they have grown up under and see the big picture through the lens of pure Logic and Compassion that is not influenced by external factors such as the system that you live under or by internal factors such as your hormones and your age.

The best way to achieve true Peace is for humanity as a whole to free itself of all this bondage and ascend to a higher level of thinking and existence by finding common grounds over the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion.

IMO

 

[Cannuck]

Wed Mar 9, 2022
(LifeSiteNews) — Unearthed emails show that the U.S. assisted with setting up biosecurity laboratories in Ukraine, as a high-ranking U.S. official acknowledges that the U.S. does have such laboratories in Ukraine, despite former denials.

11 MARCH 2022

United Nations Not Aware of Any Biological Weapons Programmes, Disarmament Chief Affirms as Security Council Meets to Address Related Concerns in Ukraine​

https://www.un.org/press/en/2022/sc14827.doc.htm

 

[HotKey]

I'm in the process of listening to the video below...so far it seems like it might be helpful should it reach those in Russia that have been bombarded with falsehoods and misinformation.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1504445097353564160

BTW, what are the clown countries that voted to side with Putin (Russia) at the UN? Whoever they are, they should be shunned/isolated as well (if not already).

EDIT/ADD: "The five countries that voted against it were Russia, Belarus, Syria, North Korea and Eritrea."

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/02/1083...e-that-would-demand-russia-end-war-in-ukraine

Thanks for sharing that, Funsky.

 

[Cal2]

Russia Is Lying About Evidence of Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine, Russian Biologists Say

AT CONSIDERABLE RISK to their own safety, 10 Russian biologists, including researchers who remain in Russia, have publicly accused the Russian government of lying about having proof that biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian labs funded by the United States.

According to the biologists, documents presented to the public last week by Russia’s defense ministry as supposed evidence of covert “bioweapons labs” under Pentagon control in Ukraine actually describe relatively harmless collections of pathogens used for public health research. The comprehensive review of the documents by experts who understand both the science and the Cyrillic alphabet took on new importance on Wednesday, as President Vladimir Putin cited the imaginary threat of weapons of mass destruction near Russia’s borders as a justification for the invasion of Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/03/17/russia-ukraine-bioweapons-misinformation/

Russian Scientists Speak Out Against Putin's Ukraine Bioweapons Labs Lies​

Moscow's claims that there are bioweapons labs in Ukraine under Pentagon control are an "embarrassment to Russia," according to a scientist who was among a group of experts who have debunked the conspiracy theory.

Olga Pettersson, an expert in genome sequencing based in Sweden, told Newsweek that she was stunned at what the Russian foreign ministry had presented as evidence that Ukraine was developing a biological weapons program in cahoots with the U.S.

She was among a group of 10 scientists that has publicly accused the Russian government of lying. Some members of the group are in Russia and have risked their safety to tell the truth.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-lavrov-biolab-weapons-united-nations-pettersson-1689402

 

[Kingslayer]

Putin's dictatorship will end in disaster, says former Russian minister​

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/putin-russia-regime-nuclear-war-ukraine-invasion-140942740.html

Also in the context of this thread (WW3/nukes).

"No it's just a blackmail,"

"Those forces which he allegedly ordered... sources are openly saying they don't see anything like that. It's an empty threat but he plays this game".

"Those strategic weapons that he ordered on alert [are] suicidal weapons because if he sends a missile to Europe, Nato or the United States, he gets two back and there is no survival for anyone."

 

[Sutruk]

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[Sutruk]

Wed Mar 9, 2022 - 10:51 am EST
(LifeSiteNews) — Unearthed emails show that the U.S. assisted with setting up biosecurity laboratories in Ukraine, as a high-ranking U.S. official acknowledges that the U.S. does have such laboratories in Ukraine, despite former denials.

The National Pulse reported March 8 it had unearthed a since-deleted 2010 article showing that then-Sen. Barack Obama had been involved in setting up a laboratory since 2005 — the Interim Central Reference Laboratory in Odessa.

“The level-3 bio-safety lab, which is the first built under the expanded authority of the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction program, will be used to study anthrax, tularemia and Q fever as well as other dangerous pathogens,” read the article.

As noted by The National Pulse, the Odessa-based bio-lab was referenced in a 2011 report (from the U.S. National Academy of Sciences’ Committee on Anticipating Biosecurity Challenges of the Global Expansion of High-Containment Biological Laboratories), explaining how the laboratory “is responsible for the identification of especially dangerous biological pathogens.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/d...s-as-confusion-reigns-over-pathogens-studied/

Your source news are conspiracy news. You are just siding Putin's disinformation propaganda machine.
In fact, it is Russia that has long maintained a biological weapons program in violation of international law. It is Russia that has a well-documented history of using chemical weapons.

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The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, denounced Russia on Friday for their false allegations about "biological weapons".

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...an-attacks-hit-near-lviv-n1292187#ncrd1292309

"There are no Ukrainian biological weapons laboratories — not near Russia's border, not anywhere. There are only public health facilities, proudly — and I say proudly — supported and recognized by the U.S. government, the World Health Organization, and other governments and international institutions," she said. "In fact, it is Russia that has long maintained a biological weapons program in violation of international law. It is Russia that has a well-documented history of using chemical weapons. It is Russia who is the aggressor here."

The ambassador said the U.S. has deep concerns that Russia's decision to call Friday's meeting over the allegations "is a potential false flag effort in action."

"Russia has repeatedly — repeatedly — accused other countries of the very violations it plans to perpetrate. We continue to believe it is possible that Russia may be planning to use chemical or biological agents against the Ukrainian people," she said.

 

[Sutruk]

The terrorist Putin is repeating his terrorits attacks in Ukraine just like he did in Syria and Chechnya. That's not war, that's not what the military does. That's what terrorists do. Brutally targeting and bombing innocent civilians, every day non stop. That's what a mass murderer does.

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Chechnya, Syria and now Ukraine: What history can tell us about Putin's war playbook​

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ns-familiar-playbook-bombing-civili-rcna20041

"With his troops bogged down in the mud, running out of food and fuel and hemorrhaging casualties, many analysts believe that Putin's battle plan is in the mire — and in desperation he has pivoted to the brutal tactics used in the Russian republic of Chechnya in 1999 and in Syria in 2015.

In both campaigns, Putin’s missiles and jets bombed and besieged residential areas, reduced apartment buildings to rubble, and targeted schools and hospitals in what watchdogs say could have constituted war crimes."

 

[Tatiana_B]

Ukrainian officials have rescued 130 people so far from under the rubble of a theatre in Mariupol destroyed by a Russian airstrike on Wednesday.

Ukrainian human rights ombudswoman Lyudmyla Denisova confirmed the figures in a televised address Friday, but said roughly 1,300 people remain trapped under the wreckage.

Russia has denied bombing the theatre.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8692328/ukraine-mariupol-theatre-rescue-efforts-russia-war/

Yes, a bombed landmark, and next to the DramTheater (by the way, during the war, the dead Nazis were buried behind the drama theater) , the highest Christian Cathedral in Europe. I don’t know if the cathedral has survived ... most likely the apartment cannot be restored ... now we are sitting with a relative in Kramatorsk where there is no gasoline only diesel

sory for my bad english

 

[rh2000]

11 MARCH 2022

United Nations Not Aware of Any Biological Weapons Programmes, Disarmament Chief Affirms as Security Council Meets to Address Related Concerns in Ukraine​

https://www.un.org/press/en/2022/sc14827.doc.htm

Funny.

 

[bmugford]

The brutality of war...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1504930900970196995

 

[Cal2]

The terrorist Putin is repeating his terrorits attacks in Ukraine just like he did in Syria and Chechnya. That's not war, that's not what the military does. That's what terrorists do. Brutally targeting and bombing innocent civilians, every day non stop. That's what a mass murderer does.

It's also what a nazi does.

a person who seeks to impose their views on others in a very autocratic or inflexible way.

 

[dirk]

Your source news are conspiracy news. You are just siding Putin's disinformation propaganda machine.
In fact, it is Russia that has long maintained a biological weapons program in violation of international law. It is Russia that has a well-documented history of using chemical weapons.

And it's all of free choice. Access to independent and free media. Still choosing to be on the wrong side of history. We all know how that played out after WWII.

 

[bmugford]

And it's all of free choice. Access to independent and free media. Still choosing to be on the wrong side of history. We all know how that played out after WWII.

I have this theory that often times the more information people have access to, the less informed they actually are. (They will think they are highly informed, like a good Dunning Kruger.)

Some people just seem to have a very hard time vetting and parsing information. The internet makes it far easier to live in your confirmation bias echo chamber.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

It's what a nazi does.

a person who seeks to impose their views on others in a very autocratic or inflexible way.

I think that is why so many religious extremists support Putin and Russia.

I am not sure if it is rooting for end times, or if they are just pulling for an autocratic dictator who will impose their vision of the world on others... but there is a lot of support from the extreme religious for Putin.

People like Pat Robertson -

Former televangelist Pat Robertson says Putin is beginning Armageddon​

Former televangelist Pat Robertson had an interesting take on Russia's invasion of Ukraine, saying Russian President Vladimir Putin is being "driven by God" to bring about Armaggedon.
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https://www.jpost.com/international/article-699091

I have seen multiple other comments from religious extremists that seem to feel that Putin is carrying out God's will or some BS.

Brad