analysis World War III

[oldtimer]

I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

IMO

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[.X.]

They are already stopping Putin. Putler wanted to invade Kyiv and many other cities, and he only has been capable of taking Mariupol, and only after completely destroying the city with missile attacks from far away.

Ukrainians are doing a great job stopping Putler invasion and aggression. And most of it due to their resilience, bravery and war capabilities. If they just could have enough weapons to at least counter-attack Putler's troops, then they could have already won this war.

Ukraine has fought attacks very well, in the first stage of the war, this second stage Putin is shredding the infrastructure at will , Kyiv being the toughest target and tried , Kyiv will be the last city that Russia returns to , I think Russia will continue to shred infrastructure to the point that when they arrive again in Kyiv , there will little to no battle.

 

[Sutruk]

Ukraine has fought attacks very well, in the first stage of the war, this second stage Putin is shredding the infrastructure at will , Kyiv being the toughest target and tried , Kyiv will be the last city that Russia returns to , I think Russia will continue to shred infrastructure to the point that when they arrive again in Kyiv , there will little to no battle.

If the West does not leave Ukraine alone, and they give them the weapons they need, the enough weapons to counter-attack, Putler won't take any more big city in the country.
And forget about invading all Ukraine, that won't happen. Putler can show to his controlled-media citizens how he completely destroyed Mariupol in his military parade.
Maybe finally russian citizens will realize someday the difference between "liberation" and "destruction and totally annihilation" of a beautiful city like it was Mariupol.

Putin has already lost this war. He could not take any major city in Ukraine. He wanted to invade Ukraine in two days, and that didn't happen.
Putin has realised that it's impossible to invade all Ukraine, and now he just wants to provoke as much damage and death as possible. The monster is a mass murderer that just wants to kill as many civilians as possible.
And it seems that there are also many terrorists in his troops to obey his orders and atrocities.

 

[.X.]

Ukraine was never a deep interest to the West , the west is providing Ukraine weaponry to defend itself , but ultimately the only thing that will do is extend the war out further , that if the installations of where the weaponry is stored doesn’t get bombed , how much of the Ukraine Putin is willing to negotiate to stay in Ukraine is yet to be seen , right now as things are , I think Putin wants the whole complete country IMO

 

[oldtimer]

Hey guys take it easy with the "dislikes"

you can "disagree" but why give a dislike when we are having an intelligent and friendly debate.

IMO

 

[.X.]

Hey guys take it easy with the "dislikes"

you can "disagree" but why give a dislike when we are having an intelligent and friendly debate.

IMO

If you don’t say what they like , you get loads of “Dislikes”. And then get accused of stuff. Immature , Childish stuff

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

@.X.
You know nothing about Ukraine and Ukrainians...
Keep all your statements for Vietnam thread!

 

[Sutruk]

kitten joined the awarding of our Heroes #UAarmy.
Moshun, Kyiv region. April 22 pic.twitter.com/ZouA8hkRpK

— Oleksii Reznikov (@oleksiireznikov) April 22, 2022

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[BRANDERX]

Ukraine was never a deep interest to the West , the west is providing Ukraine weaponry to defend itself , but ultimately the only thing that will do is extend the war out further , that if the installations of where the weaponry is stored doesn’t get bombed , how much of the Ukraine Putin is willing to negotiate to stay in Ukraine is yet to be seen , right now as things are , I think Putin wants the whole complete country IMO

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ng-nato-confrontation-with-russia-2022-04-22/
It seems they're not willing to do more, they're interest is in avoiding conflict with Russia.

Sad for Ukraine, but this is how the world works, everybody goes where their interest is.

 

[Sutruk]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ng-nato-confrontation-with-russia-2022-04-22/
It seems they're not willing to do more, they're interest is in avoiding conflict with Russia.

Sad for Ukraine, but this is how the world works, everybody goes where their interest is.

You talk for German Chancellor Olaf Scholz right? Because there are a lot of other countries helping Ukraine, with sanctions to Russia, and sending Ukraine help and weapons. Although Germany is still paying Putler a lot of millions for his gas and oil on a daily basis, what is a real shame.

 

[Sutruk]

Putler wants to brainwash Ukrainian invaded cities with his Putler TV pathetic propaganda. But Ukrainians have enough free minds to fall to his pathetic fake and idiotic news.

#Russian propaganda channels began broadcasting in #Kherson.

In particular, the First Channel, Russia 1, Russia 24, NTV and other channels from the Kiselev-Soloviev set began to work. pic.twitter.com/3z7InOV8iA

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) April 22, 2022

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[Future Sensors]

Although Germany is still paying Putler for his gas and oil on a daily basis, what is a real shame.

It takes some time to make the change.

These are the plans for the Netherlands (G translated) -

Published April 22, 2022

Cabinet wants to get rid of Russian gas and oil before the end of the year

The cabinet wants the Netherlands to be independent from Russian gas, oil and coal by the end of this year. Minister Rob Jetten (Climate and Energy) reports this on Friday. To achieve this, the government is focusing on energy conservation, sustainability and more energy imports from other countries.

"We no longer want to fill Putin's treasury," Jetten said. He acknowledged that reducing dependence on Russia in nine months will be a major challenge.

The share of Russian gas can be completely saved and replaced before the end of the year, Jetten thinks. The minister cannot rule out the possibility that Russian gas will still flow to other countries via Dutch pipelines after 2022.

The Netherlands currently imports 6 billion cubic meters of gas per year. That is about 15 percent of the total annual gas consumption. By expanding the so-called LNG terminals for liquefied gas in Rotterdam and the construction of a floating LNG terminal in Eemshaven, the cabinet wants to import around 8 billion cubic meters of extra liquefied gas from other countries before the end of the year. The Netherlands is dependent on the availability of liquefied gas on the world market for this. That is now very expensive and scarce.

The European Union has already agreed to stop importing Russian coal by 11 August at the latest. In the coming weeks, the cabinet also wants to try to make agreements with other countries to become independent of Russian oil as soon as possible. Jetten has asked the European Commission to investigate how Europe can phase out the purchase of oil without jeopardizing the security of supply.

State will guarantee the price risk of filling gas storage facilities

To prevent the Netherlands from running out of energy next winter, sufficient gas must be stored, including in the gas storage near Bergen. This field has a storage capacity of 4 billion cubic meters.

In contrast to the storage facilities in Norg and Grijpskerk, the storage in Bergen is run commercially. The Russian Gazprom rents about 40 percent of the storage, but did not use it last summer. As a result, the storage is nowhere near full.

Due to the high gas prices and the associated risks, it is currently not attractive for companies to fill the gas storage. Normally, the price of gas is lower in the summer than in the winter, allowing companies to earn money from filling in the warm months. But at the moment it is not certain that the gas price will be as high or higher in the winter, which means that companies may incur losses.

The cabinet has therefore decided to entice companies to fill the surcharges. The State will guarantee the price risks they run. The state-owned company Energie Beheer Nederland (EBN) must also fill the storage up to 70 percent of the capacity, unless commercial companies do this themselves.

The cost for the government is estimated at more than 600 million euros. These costs will be recovered via an additional levy from gas users who actually benefit from filling storage facilities.

Original source in Dutch:

https://www.nu.nl/politiek/6196659/...van-het-jaar-van-russisch-gas-en-olie-af.html

 

[.X.]

You see her eyebrows. I see a brave young woman, brave enough to stay and fight for her country with a Tank.

I see a young lady who spent her morning primping up for a photo OP

 

[oldtimer]

It seems they're not willing to do more, they're interest is in avoiding conflict with Russia.

Sad for Ukraine, but this is how the world works, everybody goes where their interest is.

The European Countries are using Ukraine to wear out and diminish Russia as a threat to themselves,

They couldn't care less if every last person in Ukraine got killed and all their Cities were razed to the ground in the process.

That's why that Countries like Germany give Ukraine enough weapons to keep the War going, but they don't give them enough weapons to win.

IMO

 

[Sutruk]

They stopped hiding it. Today, the command of russian looters, rapists and murderers acknowledged that the goal of the “second phase” of the war is not victory over the mythical Nazis, but simply the occupation of eastern and southern Ukraine. Imperialism as it is.

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) April 22, 2022

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[Jurgen Wolf]

I see a young lady who spent her morning primping up for a photo OP

These photos are from her album, they were done prior February'24/2022.

 

[Sutruk]

I see a young lady who spent her morning primping up for a photo OP

Maybe you would take a morning. The girl sure makeup in 10 minutes and she is ready to makeup your ass with a long range tank shoot

 

[Sutruk]

They couldn't care less if every last person in Ukrain got killed and all their Cities were razed to the ground in the process.

Oh there you have your "logic and compassion". Maybe who don't care less about Ukrainians being killed are the ones praying for "logic and compassion" and saying "give Putin what he wants in order to stop the war", instead of doing what actually ukrainians are asking for, and that's WEAPONS TO SURVIVE, FOR SELF DEFENSE, TO SURVIVE PUTIN'S ATROCITIES AND MASS KILLINGS.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Maybe you would take a morning. The girl sure makeup in 10 minutes and she is ready to makeup your ass with a long range tank shoot

Exactly! )
The only one correction: not tank, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S1_Gvozdika

 

[Sutruk]

That's why that Countries like Germany give Ukraine enough weapons to keep the War going, but they don't give them enough weapons to win.

Germany does not give weapons even to keep the War going. They are delaying and justifying the lack of military assistance because of lies. And the worst is that they are paying Putler hundreds of millions of euros everyday for his gas and oil. That's the real cause for their lack of support to Ukraine.
Anyway, I have to say that's what is actually doing the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. Most of german people, including their Defense Ministry, are up and in favor to send the weapons Ukraine needs.

 

[oldtimer]

Oh there you have your "logic and compassion". Maybe who don't care less about Ukrainians being killed are the ones praying for "logic and compassion" and saying "give Putin what he wants in order to stop the war", instead of doing what actually ukrainians are asking for, and that's WEAPONS TO SURVIVE, FOR SELF DEFENSE, TO SURVIVE PUTIN'S ATROCITIES AND MASS KILLINGS.

Well sooner or later you have to face the reality that European Countries are not going to give Ukraine the kind of weapons that is going to put themselves at risk of being attacked.

So you can keep repeating the same thing over and over, but my logic tells me that there are no angles anywhere in this conflict.

IMO