analysis World War III

[oldtimer]

I believe that President Biden was right when he said that Russia is going to Invade Ukraine.

Any intelligent person is going to come to the same conclusion knowing that Russia has already decided to pay any price imposed on it by the West through sanctions.

Short of full military confrontation by the West there is nothing that can make Russia to change its mind as they see this as a golden opportunity to resurrect the once powerful superpower that was equal to the USA.

But Russia’s ambitions are not going to stop with taking over Ukraine since it already has made plans to increase its sphere of influence to Asia, Middle East, and South America and perhaps the whole World knowing that the West is most likely not going to do anything beyond just imposing sanctions which ultimately will hurt the West itself by effecting the Global economy in an adverse way the longer that they go on.

I personally don’t like any of the old ideologies, philosophies, and doctrines of Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism and all the other “ism” that are derived from the bad human characteristics of Greed, Lust, Hate, Cruelty, Jealousy, Prejudice, and lack of Empathy and that have been infringing on our rights in one way or another throughout the history because they can only exist through supporting inequality, oppression, suppression, torture, killing, and War.

When it comes to saving the World the last thing that I want to see is the further expansion of these old systems that have all already proven to be a failure in dealing with the existential problems that are currently facing Humanity and the Environment.

We don’t want all these political, Religious, and Racial parties and groups to resurrect their past, we want something new that can propel the World into the next Era that is based on the Universal Principles and Values that have been derived through Logic and Compassion and not through Force and Violence.

By “We” I mean all the Intelligent, Righteous, and Peace loving people of the World.

IMO

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[Sutruk]

U.S. Senator Richard H. Black: "The US and NATO don't care how many Ukrainians die"

The only one who doesn't care how many Ukrainians die is who is killing them, Putler.

 

[redemo]

Meanwhile at the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory https://www.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone.

 

[Mister Funsky]

Having several members of my family in primary and higher education, makes this an especially heartwarming video.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570002426333216769

 

[.X.]

For the first time in the Russia - Ukraine conflict I am seeing a path to victory for Ukraine , that if China doesn’t enter the war theater with Russia , the Russian military appears to be losing its will right now. If Ukraine can keep on the territories that they have taken back , I think the Russians may make one push and if it fails Russia will pull out of Ukraine . The Russians can’t really so called regroup now IMO , if Russia keeps the war solely conventional warfare , the war should be over before December IMO … the exits and reentries have run a toll on the Russians IMO

 

[Embrand]

if Russia keeps the war solely conventional warfare , the war should be over before December IMO …

Yes, this is the big "if". Only one person can answer that. But if the war (hopefully) ends, the list just never seems to end. Kosovo-Serbia? Taiwan-China? Greece-Turkey?

 

[.X.]

Yes, this is the big "if". Only one person can answer that. But if the war (hopefully) ends, the list just never seems to end. Kosovo-Serbia? Taiwan-China? Greece-Turkey?

I agree , it’s very hard for me to vision what Putin may or may not do , Putin knows if he loses this war his legacy will be flopped completely, but if Putins interior gets him before he can act in anything , Putin is done .

I am not as concerned with China - Twain as much as I am Turkey - Greece .. i think China is saber rattling Taiwan, Turkey on the hand has never been known for saber rattling , the Turks don’t play . So the possibility of that conflict is concerning. Kosovo - Serbia , should they engage wouldn’t be on the world stage IMO ..

 

[Sutruk]

This is why Ukrainians are fighting so hard against russian invasion and aggression. They know that once Putler invades a village or city in Ukraine, his terrorists will massacre and kill everybody that shows some support for Ukraine. This is a complete genocide and annihilation of ukrainians by Putler.
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Ukraine says victims from Izium mass grave show signs of torture​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...covered-in-recaptured-izium-says-police-chief

Oleg Synegubov, the regional governor, said some of the more than 440 bodies buried in a forest near the north-eastern city also had their hands tied behind their backs.

“We are at the site of the mass burial of people, civilians who were buried here, and now, according to our information, they all have the signs of violent death,” Synegubov said at the site.

The Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, on Thursday evening accused Russia of “leaving death everywhere” after the discovery of the site. He likened the find, in an area recaptured this week from Russian forces, to the previous mass killings of civilians in the cities of Bucha, outside Kyiv, and Mariupol.

Men in white overalls began digging out bodies on Friday as part of a mass exhumation at the site, reporters with the Reuters news agency said, and 20 white bodybags could be seen. Reuters reported that several bodies had rope tied around their necks and hands.

 

[.X.]

Biden warns Putin not to ‘change the face of war’ by using nuclear or chemical weapon​

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-warns-putin-not-change-190906250.html

The only reason this announcement Biden brings me concern, Biden wouldn't have said those words unless he was given intel that may point to Putin doing such IMO.

This is going to get even nastier before its over, there is no doubt in my mind that China is keeping close tabs on the situation, China is the only one that could stop Putin from launching nukes, But, in order to stop such, Xi Jinping would have to the Chinese military to enter the war and help finish it on Putin behalf. which could, cause a world war. Putins lack of mental stability is being monitored closely by China, so in the event that Putin completely loses his mind and decides to launch, China will know before hand.

If somehow Putin and Russia can be worn down militarily, without Putin launching or China entering Ukraine on behalf of Russia, Ukraine has a path to victory.

 

[tonyk2000]

Partial Mobilization in Russia​

Putin announced that in light of the latest developments in Donbass, he had signed a decree on partial mobilization in Russia. “In this situation, I consider it necessary to take the following decisions, they are fully adequate to the threats we face. Namely: to protect our Motherland, its sovereignty and territorial integrity, to ensure the security of our people and people in the liberated territories, I consider it necessary to support the proposal of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff on conducting partial mobilization in Russia,” the Russian president said. He added that mobilization will begin on Wednesday, noting that only reservists will be subject to conscription, first of all those who have relevant experience and military professions.

Source: sputniknews.com

 

[Mister Funsky]

The 'annexation' announced overnight and the draw up of troops, in addition to the rhetoric in the televised speech (the first one since the war began if I am correct) is a significant step toward escalation.

Below is one of the things I read daily to try to get information.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdJ5XGRX0AISGq5?format=jpg&name=medium

 

[Mister Funsky]

It seems NATO is taking the speech at face value. More than usual aircraft are in the region. The link below shows a Stratofortress on station. Directly between that aircraft and Moscow is a Russian early warning aircraft.

https://www.flightradar24.com/RUMOR12/2d8bfd83

wow...there were TWO of them flying in tandem

https://www.flightradar24.com/RUMOR11/2d8ca680

 

[Sutruk]

Namely: to protect our Motherland, its sovereignty and territorial integrity, to ensure the security of our people and people in the liberated territories

I really find hard that anyone with a minimum knowledge in Russia can fall to this incredible stupidity and lies.

Nobody is invading Russia, nor is in danger its sovereignity and territorial integrity. It is Russia (I always say Putler, because I want to refuse to think that all russians approve the dictator massacre in Ukraine) who has invaded, and is currently massacring innocent people in a peaceful DEMOCRACY).

And then Putin says "liberated territories"... man, liberated from what? from DEMOCRACY? they are INVADED territories. By the way, anyone in those "liberated territories" that shows some support for Ukraine is being tortured and killed by Putler.

That was the playbook of Hitler and that is the playbook of Putin right now.

Putler has panic to see Ukraine as a democracy and as a part of Europe. He has panic to see that because if Ukraine enters the EU and becomes even a more prosperous country, PUTLER IS AFRAID THAT RUSSIAN PEOPLE WILL WANT ALSO TO LIVE IN DEMOCRACY, not in a dictatorship like now, and then they (the population) could prosecute him for his crimes, even in Russia.

 

[Sutruk]

The 'annexation' announced overnight and the draw up of troops, in addition to the rhetoric in the televised speech (the first one since the war began if I am correct) is a significant step toward escalation.

What that shows is the desperation of Putler in his invasion. Things are not going well for him there.
As I said at the beginning of this invasion, Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom, for their people and for their lives, more even after seeing the torture, looting and massacre of innocent population made in the recovered territories like Bucha and Izium, while the terrorists sent to Ukraine by Putler are just fighting for money, but they know they should not be there massacring innocent people.

So after Putler has tried to fill his army with prisoners from Russian jails, it seems it isn't still enough to cover the mass losses and desertions among russian lines.

 

[tonyk2000]

I really find hard that anyone with a minimum knowledge in Russia can fall to this incredible stupidity and lies.

This (I mean the translation) was reported by RU-owned "sputnik news", so they no doubts translated correctly what was said in an Address to the Nation.

It is worth mentioning that almost if not all remaining international airline tickets (closest dates) from Russia to visa-free countries were sold out almost immediately after this announcement.

 

[Sutruk]

As it seems that recruiting thieves and killers is not enough to cover massive Russian losses and desertions between Russian lines, now Putler calls for a partial mobilisation of Russia.
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‘We thieves and killers are now fighting Russia’s war’: how Moscow recruits from its prisons​

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/20/russia-recruits-inmates-ukraine-war-wagner-prigozhin

"But not all prisoners going to Ukraine appear to be ready to fight for Russia. Yury Butusov, a Ukrainian journalist, published an interview last week with a Russian prisoner recruited to fight in Ukraine and captured by Kyiv who said he had used the opportunity given by Prigozhin to hand himself over to Ukraine.

“I told myself that when I came, I would do whatever it took to surrender,” the prisoner said, citing his anti-war stance and adding that he hoped to fight for Ukraine against Russia.

Whatever the eventual impact on the war, the extraordinary footage of Prigozhin recruiting prisoners has already been described by observers as one of the defining, grim images of Putin’s presidency.

“The truth is,” said Ivan, the inmate from Tambov, “we, thieves and killers, are now fighting Russia’s war.”

 

[Sutruk]

This (I mean the translation) was reported by RU-owned "sputnik news", so they no doubts translated correctly what was said in an Address to the Nation.

I have no doubt they translated correctly what was said by Putin. What I mean, is that I find it hard to believe that anyone in Russia can believe Putin's lies about Russian invasion and aggression, for example when he justifies the invasion of a sovereign country and democracy "to protect our Motherland, its sovereignty and territorial integrity, to ensure the security of our people".

Unless the level of mixed brainwash by Putin's totally controlled media + foreign media sources being banned really has worked for Putin in his aim to totally and blatantly lie Russians about what's happening in Ukraine.

 

[Mister Funsky]

What that shows is the desperation of Putler in his invasion. Things are not going well for him there.

That is why I also included info in a post above about the aircraft that were airborne this morning. These are of the type that would be carrying responsive weapons in the event the little general decides (out of desperation) to authorize a nuke strike of any caliber (including the release of radiation from a targeted power plant).

I feel that things will ramp up quickly or there will be an internal shift in power in Russia. It reminds me of how Hitler had ordered Paris to be blown up when the Germans retreated but those in charge in country refused to do so. I hope those with their fingers on the buttons refuse the release of any level of nuclear weapon.

 

[Mister Funsky]

The fate of this man is bleak...a beating at a minimum.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1572627156273926145

 

[Sutruk]

The fate of this man is bleak...a beating at a minimum.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1572627156273926145

Putin can jail him for 10 years. That's the freedom of speech in a dictatorship.

 

[Sutruk]

Below is one of the things I read daily to try to get information.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdJ5XGRX0AISGq5?format=jpg&name=medium

That twitter account has very interesting and accurate daily updates about Putin's invasion in Ukraine.

 

[.X.]

This appears to be a sign that this particular conflict will be over soon , one way or the other.

Either Putin will be ousted from power, China will join Russia to complete the conflict , or I think Putin will launch in coming weeks.

I tend to lean with Putin being ousted from power , I don’t think China wants to enter the conflict , China wants to enter conflict with Taiwan, Putin and the Russian military have depleted so much of its military now that they can’t continue conventional warfare for very long at all now.

Putin appears to be leaning on the US and other countries supplying Ukraine superior weaponry as the reason Russia is losing this conflict , Putin has taken it step further though IMO he is insinuating that the US and western countries are part of the conflict by issuing the weapons. That to enable him to threaten the west with nuclear actions as to being a direct threat to Russia , that is how I put together Putin new threats he made today.

 

[Mister Funsky]

I would imagine for every citizen that came to streets there might be hundreds (or thousands) that feel the same way and want no part of this war.

Russia protests: more than 1,300 arrested at anti-war demonstrations​

Security forces detained more than 1,300 people in Russia on Wednesday at protests denouncing mobilisation, a rights group said, hours after President Vladimir Putin ordered Russia’s first military draft since the second world war.

The independent OVD-Info protest monitoring group said that according to information it had collated from 38 Russian cities, more than 1,311 people had been held by late evening.

It said those figures included at least 502 in Moscow and 524 in St Petersburg, Russia’s second most populous city. Unsanctioned rallies are illegal under Russia’s anti-protest laws.

Russian interior ministry official Irina Volk, in a statement quoted by Russian news agencies, said officers had cut short attempts to stage what it called small protests.

“In a number of regions, there were attempts to stage unauthorised actions which brought together an extremely small number of participants,” Volk was quoted as saying.

“These were all stopped. And those persons who violated laws were detained and taken to police stations for investigation and establish their responsibility.”

One-way flights out of Russia were rocketing in price and selling out fast on Wednesday after Putin ordered the immediate call-up of 300,000 reservists. (more...)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...0-arrested-at-anti-war-demonstrations-ukraine

 

[topdom]

Real Biden is dead. Real Biden would start ww3, at least try. Trump is the commander in chief, means, the real president. Some say he is dead also, but his soul is alive, meaning peace friendly forces are in charge mostly.
JfkJr , the VPOTUS would become the POTUS then.. Dark forces have less power.
I'm not worried about nuke war at all. There are more powerful weapons. Real war would happen between good ETs and bad ETs, but both want to save life on earth. Bad ones want to make some changes in atmosphere, reduce population significantly, although they consider humans as food.
Russia is always on the good side. So is US, mostly, recently, but we see artificial and fake conflicts between
US-Russia, US-China etc.

 

[Reallybigidea.com]

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[Sutruk]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1572912188699951105