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Here is a link to a report on a conference regarding the future of the mobile internet, and quite likely the dot mobi extension.

http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9824587-37.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

This is one interesting quote where they question if the future of wireless is with full content websites or stripped down mobi-type versions.

"Do operating system vendors try to make wide-open devices that can run anything, or clamp down on the number and types of applications to make more reliable and secure devices? Do they press the limits of a cell phone at the cost of performance, or do they acquiesce to those constraints with stripped-down applications and Web pages that work, but aren't as meaningful? Should they find ways to go around carriers that are reluctant to give up control of the devices that run on their networks, or work with the carriers to find ways of helping them make money? Anybody who says they know for sure is lying."

Sounds like the mobi debate is strong even at the top, though mobi isn't specifically mentioned.

What we need is Google to push for mobi as the way of the future. Simple, cheap, reliable, and most importantly "compatible" with all devices. Perhaps they are allowing others to come to that conclusion, while promoting it behind the scenes.

Interesting that since they have announced their Android software, Google are sitting front and centre at these conferences these days and they are the one who everyone is deferring to.

Regards,

Sags
 
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Great find, thanks
 
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Breaking News..............

Live at this moment on BNN (Business News Network) in Canada, the Minister of Trade is announcing an auction of wireless spectrum space. The "auction" will take place in May 08. The purpose of the auction is the creation of more service providers which will offer "cheaper" data usage costs. Canadians pay more than twice as much as US and European customers. The dominant 4 players in Canada, cannot bid on this spectrum. They will have an opportunity to bid on more bandspace than they presently have in order to expand.

Tower sharing and roaming rates will be mandated.

105 megahertz will be available. Of that 65 megahertz will be open for anyone to bid. The remaining 40 megahertz will be reserved for "new" companies.

More competition will lower the prices................yippee

In my own opinion, watch for Google to buy this space. They have already expressed interest in space in the US.

Given what has happened and what is happening I can envision the following future possiblility.

1) Google recognizes the vast, untapped market for wireless for their business.

2) Google formulates a long term plan

3) Google starts development on open source software (Google Android)

4) Google develops and tests their own network.

5) Google encourages and partners with dot mobi to provide development standards for websites that are less expensive to access.(since they will pay the network costs)

6) Google bids on and wins band spectrum space in the US and Canada.

7) Google sets up its own "free and unlimited" wireless network. The network is supported by Google ads overlaid on every website on their network.

8) Google allows only "mobi compliant" websites onto it's network. This is to keep down costs. Websites must be "developed" for access to the network. Parked sites are banned. Google claims space on every website for it's own ads and allows website owners space on the website for their own revenue.

9) Mobi domain values soar. The debate is over. Dot mobi is the standard for wireless.

10) Millions of customers leave their current service provider and sign up for the "free" Google network.


I have listed 10 steps in the process. Google is already at step 5. Step 6 is a done deal. Google will bid whatever it takes to win the bandspace. No one can compete with them. If they want it, they will have it.

The muddy waters are starting to clear. Google is determined to dominate in the wireless world of the future. The growth of their company depends on it.

This is my long term prediction based on what I see developing.

Time will tell.

Regards,

Sags

Update,

The spectrum necessary to build a national network in Canada is 30 megahertz. The "new" space is 40 megahertz, so a new national network is probable.

US companies are not allowed to "own" the network, but they can "partner" with a Canadian company.

If Google partners with a small Canadian company, they can buy the network space and offer "free" access (as explained on the above post). This would be "welcomed" by Canadian politicians who would be "thrilled" to offer their voters a "free option". Nice little vote getter.

Watch Google closely. If they enter the auction, it will get interesting.

Regards,

Sags
 
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sags said:
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I have listed 10 steps in the process. Google is already at step 5...

Excellent news, and I fully agree that steps 1-5 are already a fact. Will be exciting to follow step 6 in the US very soon.

Rep added
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interesting philosophy guided by great rationale rep added
 
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mobile compliant and mobi compliant aren't necessarily the same thing. therein lies the rub.
 
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sags said:
Live at this moment on BNN (Business News Network) in Canada, the Minister of Trade is announcing an auction of wireless spectrum space. The "auction" will take place in May 08. The purpose of the auction is the creation of more service providers which will offer "cheaper" data usage costs. Canadians pay more than twice as much as US and European customers. The dominant 4 players in Canada, cannot bid on this spectrum. They will have an opportunity to bid on more bandspace than they presently have in order to expand.

Tower sharing and roaming rates will be mandated.

105 megahertz will be available. Of that 65 megahertz will be open for anyone to bid. The remaining 40 megahertz will be reserved for "new" companies.

More competition will lower the prices................yippee

In my own opinion, watch for Google to buy this space. They have already expressed interest in space in the US.

Given what has happened and what is happening I can envision the following future possiblility.

1) Google recognizes the vast, untapped market for wireless for their business.

2) Google formulates a long term plan

3) Google starts development on open source software (Google Android)

4) Google develops and tests their own network.

5) Google encourages and partners with dot mobi to provide development standards for websites that are less expensive to access.(since they will pay the network costs)

6) Google bids on and wins band spectrum space in the US and Canada.

7) Google sets up its own "free and unlimited" wireless network. The network is supported by Google ads overlaid on every website on their network.

8) Google allows only "mobi compliant" websites onto it's network. This is to keep down costs. Websites must be "developed" for access to the network. Parked sites are banned. Google claims space on every website for it's own ads and allows website owners space on the website for their own revenue.

9) Mobi domain values soar. The debate is over. Dot mobi is the standard for wireless.

10) Millions of customers leave their current service provider and sign up for the "free" Google network.


I have listed 10 steps in the process. Google is already at step 5. Step 6 is a done deal. Google will bid whatever it takes to win the bandspace. No one can compete with them. If they want it, they will have it.

The muddy waters are starting to clear. Google is determined to dominate in the wireless world of the future. The growth of their company depends on it.

This is my long term prediction based on what I see developing.

Time will tell.

Regards,

Sags

Update,

The spectrum necessary to build a national network in Canada is 30 megahertz. The "new" space is 40 megahertz, so a new national network is probable.

US companies are not allowed to "own" the network, but they can "partner" with a Canadian company.

If Google partners with a small Canadian company, they can buy the network space and offer "free" access (as explained on the above post). This would be "welcomed" by Canadian politicians who would be "thrilled" to offer their voters a "free option". Nice little vote getter.

Watch Google closely. If they enter the auction, it will get interesting.

Regards,

Sags


From your mouth to God's ears on #'s 6 thru 10
 
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6 and 7 are highly probable :imho:

if 8 happens i will backflip non-stop from land's end to john 'o' groats :sold:
 
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Great find & analysis Sags. Here is my finger tip on make believe fast forward button.

>>6,7----10!>> Done!
:)
 
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-OutlawBiker- said:
mobile compliant and mobi compliant aren't necessarily the same thing. therein lies the rub.

Perhaps the phrase of the future will be "Google compliant".

I'm sure the mtld could accomodate any needed changes.

Great video on your website. I watched that girl's videos last year. She sure can sing the blues.

Regards,

Sags
 
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Sags....that's the clearest & most succinct summary of a possible (even probable) scenario for mobile that I've seen yet...


I keep thinking about Google's avowed ambition to own all information in the world....It makes me think that - in one way, or another - they must make a fundamental play for the mobile space.....An 'owner' play.


Number 8's the deal-breaker for us, of course....(waiting with bated breath)...


I'd even grit my teeth and cop the sight of arnie doing nude backflips from Land's End to John o'Groats, if No 8 came through...:)


Rep for you, Sags.

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DT, you seem to be a bad influence on Arnie (if that is even possible): he hadn't mentioned anything about his attire in this particular thread - unlike in others - and now you're just giving him ideas.

On a serious point, I guess you would agree that .mobi is bound to win even if Google disappeared in a puff of smoke tomorrow. I'm saying this just in case somebody accuses us of somehow relying on Google to win quickly and decisively in mobile - which IMHO at this stage is far less certain than .mobi's success independently of it.
:imho:
 
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Mobi Cheap said:
DT, you seem to be a bad influence on Arnie (if that is even possible): he hadn't mentioned anything about his attire in this particular thread - unlike in others - and now you're just giving him ideas.

Heh, heh.....Trust me, Mobi....The Brits don't need any ideas from me about embarrassing public attire...I recall, years ago, in Greece, the Brits organised a (breakfast) party where everyone had to wear bra & pants....It brought tears to yer eyes to see all these English men casually strolling through the main street of town, wearing bra & pants, at 8am in the morning, totally oblivious to the amazed reaction of the local Greeks....:D

Mobi Cheap said:
On a serious point, I guess you would agree that .mobi is bound to win even if Google disappeared in a puff of smoke tomorrow. I'm saying this just in case somebody accuses us of somehow relying on Google to win quickly and decisively in mobile - which IMHO at this stage is far less certain than .mobi's success independently of it.
:imho:

Absolutely, mate...I'm a believer in the underlying logic of a universal (global) mobile extension on its own merit....And, I back that hunch for .mobi.


If Sag's Google scenario played out just right - it'd just mean game over - and faster, imo

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I have one confusion - even the current google site can be browsed by phone - all you need is a middle ware which will make the site complaint to any mobile devices.
 
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DomainTalker said:
Heh, heh.....Trust me, Mobi....The Brits don't need any ideas from me about embarrassing public attire...I recall, years ago, in Greece, the Brits organised a (breakfast) party where everyone had to wear bra & pants....It brought tears to yer eyes to see all these English men casually strolling through the main street of town, wearing bra & pants, at 8am in the morning, totally oblivious to the amazed reaction of the local Greeks....:D

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so true. in general we leave our inhibitions at home.
some of my countrymen are a little 'rowdy' shall we say, 'on tour'
:hehe:

i would never think of going nude, i'd always wear my 'mankini'
here's one of arnie's home videos: www.BO-R.com :hehe: LOL
 
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arnie said:
so true. in general we leave our inhibitions at home.
some of my countrymen are a little 'rowdy' shall we say, 'on tour'
:hehe:

i would never think of going nude, i'd always wear my 'mankini'
here's one of arnie's home videos: www.BO-R.com :hehe: LOL


I'm not going near that link!!!
 
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jack_sparrow said:
I have one confusion - even the current google site can be browsed by phone - all you need is a middle ware which will make the site complaint to any mobile devices.

I am not enough of a technical expert to debate all the reasons why it is so difficult to render dot com websites on a cellphone, so I will leave that to others.

It is enough for me that the tech savvy companies themselves say there is a myriad of problems to overcome before it would become a reality.

What all those technical problems are, I frankly don't know, but I believe it has to do with a combination of individual service provider requirements, individual cellphone requirements, limited bandwith and a development "standard" accepted by all the parties.

I doubt, if one could get all the companies in one room, they could decide if they wanted tea or coffee, let alone a solution everyone will accept gracefully.

That is why I believe that Google has gotten fed up and decided to head out on their own. Buy their own bandspace, start their own network, and satisfy their own customers. They don't want to be beholdin' to anyone.

Regards,

Sags
 
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