Will cc's put a dent in the Crown of .com?

[CHILLY]

In the future; Will cc's put a dent in the Crown of .com?

I had a question in my mind about the .cn, then the answer came while reading someones posts in the forum. It was stated that Chinese government had a policy that any business in China had to use the .cn extension. Do any other Governments follow suite?

Take this statement from impressive domains.....


"What makes a good domain name?
It depends on what your goals are. If you are thinking about buying a domain name as an investment, then certain guidelines apply. The domain extension is arguably the most valuable attribute of the domain - .COMs are still the highest rated domains. Over the past couple of years, popular country extensions such as .CO.UK (United Kingdom), .DE (Germany) and .TV have displaced .NETs and .ORGs in the pecking order. In fact, .CO.UK and .DE rank #2 and #3 respectively in secondary market sales after .COMs."

"If" this is the case, and with the event of so many different extensions, wouldn't this lessen the need and demand of .COM over time. If i can rank high in search engines with any extension and nothing is stopping me from doing business globally with that extension, is there a need to upgrade?

Is .COM steadily moving faster than those behind it? Will the ".Com means king and global" that has been placed in the mind set of the masses slowly start to fade away. Do the statistics and future projections show that there is nothing to worry about?
Is there nothing to worry about or will .COM in the future become a king who has no clothes.

Adam Dicker "Others see potential opportunity in new extensions like .info, .biz and .us or in established country codes like .de (Germany), .co.uk (United Kingdom) or even .ca (from Dicker’s homeland – Canada). “I have never been a great believer in country code domains,” Dicker said. “I own mostly .com’s (99%). Even so, I do buy some country code TLD’s (MD.ca and PW.ca for example) and I do hope they become as profitable for everyone as the .com’s have been.”

 

[hostingsearch]

Who said that? :hehe: To my best knowledge, Chinese government never had such a policy. I doubt any government will have such a policy.

.com, .com.cn and .cn are all common to businesses in China.

.cn is getting more and more popular because it's much more affordable than .com (.co.uk, .de are also cheaper than .com in their respective country)

CIBC (The world's largest bank ranked by market capitalisation) use icbc.com.cn, they don't own icbc.com, they use icbc-ltd.com as their global site, they don't use icbc.cn

CCTV (the largest tv station) use .com, .cn and .com.cn

Xinhua News Agency(official news agency) use Xinhuanet.com and News.cn

IBM use ibm.com, Microsoft use .com, eBay use eachnet.com

The most popular Chinese sites are baidu.com and qq.com

baidu.cn works, but few people actually use it.

I had a question in my mind about the .cn, then the answer came while reading someones posts in the forum. It was stated that Chinese government had a policy that any business in China had to use the .cn extension. Do any other Governments follow suite?

Take this statement from impressive domains.....

 

[newdomainer.mobi]

Who said that? :hehe: To my best knowledge, Chinese government never had such a policy. I doubt any government will have such a policy.

.com, .com.cn and .cn are all common to businesses in China.

.cn is getting more and more popular because it's much more affordable than .com (.co.uk, .de are also cheaper than .com in their respective country)

CIBC (The world's largest bank ranked by market capitalisation) use icbc.com.cn, they don't own icbc.com, they use icbc-ltd.com as their global site, they don't use icbc.cn

CCTV (the largest tv station) use .com, .cn and .com.cn

Xinhua News Agency(official news agency) use Xinhuanet.com and News.cn

IBM use ibm.com, Microsoft use .com, eBay use eachnet.com

The most popular Chinese sites are baidu.com and qq.com

baidu.cn works, but few people actually use it.

It's not just country codes either, with everyone going small screen crazy with internet on the go... there is another global TLD that could send a few shock waves (IMHO)

Dotmobi!

I'm surprised that .co.uk is so high up the rankings! That tells me a few things;

1) .com is by far & far away the top domain extension at the present time

2) For .co.uk to rank so high I can only summise that the domain industry is actually in a far more youthful state in the grand scheme of things than I had thought; I say this because the population of the UK is relatively small and is only so high up the chart because the UK embraced cc's more than most; as market penetration grows in other countries the .co.uk will surely slip relative with its population...

3) .US has clearly got its work cut out before it takes on any other CC's - the US has 10x the UK population so I would expect .US to rank higher in years to come.

4) .EU is also likely to come from behind at some point because of the european union. I would hazard a guess that countries that are on the 'edge' of the EU will try to gain credibility by using .EU (like Turkey, Romania etc..)

5) .MOBI doesn't have to achieve a high level of market penetration to gain a few places up the rankings... look at it like this; the UK is 2nd on a global scale with a 55million population.... many businesses are still not on-line & yet it is 2nd!
I would suggest that Dotmobi only has to achieve 5% penetration to put itself in 2nd position globally (unless .cn beats it to it)
I think .com will remain on top, that cc's will continue to grow significantly & that .net & .org will grow at a significantly slower rate than .mobi because the emphasis on technology is smaller, lighter, faster.... and anywhere.

Just my two cents


Disclosure: I have 2,500 .mobi + 500 other TLD's so yes; I'm heavily weighted in favour of .mobi...

Because I happen to believe in what I say & I practice what I preach!

Thanks for understanding

Regards

Gary

 

[sashas]

keep in mind that China is still a communist (or Maoist, if you may) country. They can dictate terms to business owners as to what extension to use.

Most other countries are democracies. No one can dictate terms. I can make a website on .bs if I want to.

 

[Sam]

It's not just country codes either, with everyone going small screen crazy with internet on the go... there is another global TLD that could send a few shock waves (IMHO)

Dotmobi!

I'm surprised that .co.uk is so high up the rankings! That tells me a few things;

1) .com is by far & far away the top domain extension at the present time

2) For .co.uk to rank so high I can only summise that the domain industry is actually in a far more youthful state in the grand scheme of things than I had thought; I say this because the population of the UK is relatively small and is only so high up the chart because the UK embraced cc's more than most; as market penetration grows in other countries the .co.uk will surely slip relative with its population...

3) .US has clearly got its work cut out before it takes on any other CC's - the US has 10x the UK population so I would expect .US to rank higher in years to come.

4) .EU is also likely to come from behind at some point because of the european union. I would hazard a guess that countries that are on the 'edge' of the EU will try to gain credibility by using .EU (like Turkey, Romania etc..)

5) .MOBI doesn't have to achieve a high level of market penetration to gain a few places up the rankings... look at it like this; the UK is 2nd on a global scale with a 55million population.... many businesses are still not on-line & yet it is 2nd!
I would suggest that Dotmobi only has to achieve 5% penetration to put itself in 2nd position globally (unless .cn beats it to it)
I think .com will remain on top, that cc's will continue to grow significantly & that .net & .org will grow at a significantly slower rate than .mobi because the emphasis on technology is smaller, lighter, faster.... and anywhere.

Just my two cents


Disclosure: I have 2,500 .mobi + 500 other TLD's so yes; I'm heavily weighted in favour of .mobi...

Because I happen to believe in what I say & I practice what I preach!

Thanks for understanding

Regards

Gary

Just 5% is not a "small number". .DE is #2, not .co.uk.

You are using population as a measure of comparison. .US will never overtrake .co.uk. You must look at the trends... .COM will always be .US in America's Mind.

 

[Diabro]

.COM will always be .US in America's Mind.

As it should be! :lol:

 

[sashas]

.co.uk is up there because the UK has a very high internet penetration, as well as thousands of British citizens living overseas. You're talking about a tiny country that became the largest empire in history. So population is not really that big a factor. Their citizens are scattered all over the world.


and Gary, for all the .mobi support, there's one thing you can't deny: no body is registering any .mobi names. After two years, .mobi names still haven't crossed the 1 million (its in the 800,000's I assume). Isn't an extension's popularity gauged by the number of registrations?

At the end of the day, you and I can't change extension acceptance trends. Whats important is that the average guy on the street should know what the extension means...

 

[FreshAvails.com]

Quick look at the domain name facts. uk is not bigger than .net but .DE. Enjoy.

 

[DnEbook]

As i walk along the main shops , i can tell the old business's from the new , the old ones have .com , the new ones have .com.au (i am in australia) it seems here that to be seen as a local australian business is important !!!!!! yes we have adopted our own country code with open arms , although i feel so much room for improvement for .info , i like what it represents !!! you know what you are getting with that extension , also same for .tv , i know i will get something visual , to me the worry is that it will not be the extension , but the networks , i feel many networks will appear programed into devices before you buy ????? 10yrs from now who knows ?????

 

[Coopey]

It's not just country codes either, with everyone going small screen crazy with internet on the go... there is another global TLD that could send a few shock waves (IMHO)

Dotmobi!

I'm surprised that .co.uk is so high up the rankings! That tells me a few things;

1) .com is by far & far away the top domain extension at the present time

2) For .co.uk to rank so high I can only summise that the domain industry is actually in a far more youthful state in the grand scheme of things than I had thought; I say this because the population of the UK is relatively small and is only so high up the chart because the UK embraced cc's more than most; as market penetration grows in other countries the .co.uk will surely slip relative with its population...

3) .US has clearly got its work cut out before it takes on any other CC's - the US has 10x the UK population so I would expect .US to rank higher in years to come.

4) .EU is also likely to come from behind at some point because of the european union. I would hazard a guess that countries that are on the 'edge' of the EU will try to gain credibility by using .EU (like Turkey, Romania etc..)

5) .MOBI doesn't have to achieve a high level of market penetration to gain a few places up the rankings... look at it like this; the UK is 2nd on a global scale with a 55million population.... many businesses are still not on-line & yet it is 2nd!
I would suggest that Dotmobi only has to achieve 5% penetration to put itself in 2nd position globally (unless .cn beats it to it)
I think .com will remain on top, that cc's will continue to grow significantly & that .net & .org will grow at a significantly slower rate than .mobi because the emphasis on technology is smaller, lighter, faster.... and anywhere.

Just my two cents


Disclosure: I have 2,500 .mobi + 500 other TLD's so yes; I'm heavily weighted in favour of .mobi...

Because I happen to believe in what I say & I practice what I preach!

Thanks for understanding

Regards

Gary

.co.uk is bigger than .com in the United Kingdom.
There are so many websites advertised in .co.uk I'm willing to bet your average 'man on the street' would assume there are more .co.uk websites than .com ones.

Mature ccTLDs- those that have been established for a long time- which tend to be the European ones, esp. .uk, .de and .nl (amongst others) are exceptionally popular with local users (in local-language domains) and are the equal of .coms as far as local users are concerned. Larger countries are likely to one day reach this level of 'maturity' with their own ccTLDs- .cn, .in, com.br and (perhaps) .us may one day be as popular in their countries (as the European ones are) too- but .com will always be the international domain extension, and will overall be the best for sites targeting a global audience.

But, and is is a massive 'but' the introduction of the IDN extensions is going to have a big impact- I've said it before, but imagine if Russia (or Japan) had 'invented' the Internet and you had to type addresses in their characters- then imagine how much more popular the web would be once you were able to type in our more familiar Roman characters- if this was the case could you not imagine .us easily becoming more useful to you than the totally foreign .СШ? I can imagine totally local script domains eventually being more popular than the Roman .com in countries like China, Japan and Russia.

Slightly off-topic, but addressing a point made in the thread: I really admire Gary's (newdomainer.mobi's) faith in the .mobi extension and hope for his sake it reaches it's full potential, but am still skeptical as to whether or not it will. I feel after all's done the mobile Internet will be completely extension-neutral: example: I imagine someone in the UK looking up the BBC will type bbc.co.uk into their phone, whilst it may redirect to bbc.mobi, and typing bbc.mobi will get you to the same page, hosted on bbc.mobi, device recognition will essentially render the distinction useless (BBC will still only need to advertise bbc.co.uk).
**For the record, I have spent a fair whack on .mobi so am def~ not a 'hater', I believe the good domains will be good investments- the idea behind the extension itself has come too late, and therefore the extension as a whole is perhaps not...