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There are 2 taken DNs that I want (one of them USED to be mine, which I foolishly let expire...the other one I just want.)

I tried to contact the owners via their WHOIS info but it appears to be incorrect / no answer. GoDaddy tells me that they'll "try" to acquire a DN for me and negotiate with existing owner (not clear just how they'll try), but that it costs $69.99 for them to even try + 10% commission if I purchase it successfully.

That seems too high to me...have no problem paying it if they GET me the DN, but without a likelihood of success, it's just not worth it to me.

Are there other sites out there that will either:
i) ONLY charge me a fee if they acquire it successfully on my behalf?, OR
ii) charge less up front?
 
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Sedo also offers an aquisition service, but unfortunately, they charge the same as well.
 
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I think SnapNames, Name.com, and most other drop catchers will not charge you anything if they can't get the name, but you have to pay them first. If they can't get the name, you get the money back.

But if you just want someone to try and get an owner to sell the name, then of course they are not going to spend any time at it unless you pay them. At last most companies won't.

For the domain you let expire, it may have traffic that the new owner finds valuable. In this case they may not even talk to you unless you offer them quite a bit of money for the domain. Check the domain using Estibot.com. If the domain has value, then you can get an idea what they may think the domain is worth. This can help you make a starting offer they may consider.

If the whois information is not correct, you can report it to the registrar and they are required to let the owner know and make an update, or the owner can lose the domain. I think that is how it works. Keep trying to contact them. They may reply just to shut you up and then you know they are at least hearing you. :)
 
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Thanks for the replies to this point...I guess the more pertinent issue that I should have asked about is just what investigative / negotiation resources do GoDaddy's "Domain Buy" service and other such services that offer to get DNs for you have at their disposal that I don't.

In one particular instance, I've been unable to even track down the DN owner, because it's registered through a private-registration service, and despite some relatively time-consuming research I've been unable to otherwise figure out who owns it.

Just what will GoDaddy be able to do that I, a private individual, won't, I guess is what I'm asking? Do they have access to some sort of "Registrar's only" DN info service, or some other recourse that I don't??

Obviously all I'm trying to avoid is buying their $70 service, only to result in some high school intern doing exactly the same web search that I've already tried to do by myself, and meeting a similarly unsuccessful end.
 
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I was thinking this was just a drop-catcher service, but I see now that it's much more than that:
Godaddy Domain Buy Service
Just $69.99 per domain name + commission*

Our Professional Domain Buy Service provides personal Domain Agents who will:

* Complete a Certified Appraisal within 2 business days of service purchase.
* Attempt to contact current domain owner, to determine interest in selling their domain.
* Negotiate the sales price of your desired domain (if the owner is willing to sell their domain)
* Help facilitate the sales transaction (if a sales agreement is reached).

*10% commission or $10.00 fee will be charged (whichever is greater) if the name is successfully purchased. Fee is non-refundable.

So what you are paying for is their time to see if they can help you buy the domain and if they can you have to pay them a 10% commission. Now a 10% broker fee is not bad, but in most cases the seller pays a broker to help them sell the domain. I don't know if this is as common, but it would make some sense, except for one thing: When a seller pays a broker, they pay them more commission the higher the price is. In your case, you also pay them MORE commission for a higher price. The point is that they have a conflict of interest to get you the lowest price and get the highest fee for themselves. That fairly sucks and is yet another reason I don't like Godaddy. :) They should get a higher fee for the LOWEST price they can get for you...!

So for your money you are getting an appraisal to have some idea what the domain may be worth on the open market (Check Estibot.com first). Then you are getting them to contact the owner (if they can). They negotiate for you which may or may not be good depending on their ability (and motivation, see commission above). And they fasilitate the sale which I take to handle any escrow, but find out what that means first, there may be more fees to pay.

If you decide to use Godaddy, I would see if you can get them to take a fairly low set fee. Point out that they are not going to be working in your best interest with a percentage of the selling price. Once you have the appraisal you can discusss a fee, or name some fees that increase as the selling price goes down. It's worth a try!

So, whatever you think the domain is worth, you should contact the owner using the whois information, and make an initial offer that is more than $10. How much that is will be up to you, but you will want it to be enough to get the attention of the owner. If you offer $500 for a $3,500 domain, that may get their attention and they will see if they can get you up to $2-3,000.

One thing you can do is start fairly low, then increase your offer every few days until the reply. If they are not interested but respond because they are tired of hearing from you then you can start from there and see if a deal is possible.
 
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Just because the owner never wrote you back doesnt mean the whois contact is incorrect. Could very well be a wealthy owner that doesn't even want to discuss the sale of this name with you. Could also be your email is being dumped in his/her spam folder and flushed. Could try having friends with a qualty email relay a message. You would probally be paying $70 just to have godaddy tell you that the owner is sipping mai tais on a beach and doesnt want to sell you the name, bye bye $70
 
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