discuss Why most people are in denial for Covid-19?

[Ostrados]

Surprisingly 90% of people I meet deny that we are in a middle of a pandemic! They either claim that the numbers are exaggerated and fabricated, or that it is not dangerous and just a flu, or that we are being lied to. The odd thing is that these ignorant claims were dominant at the beginning of the virus outbreak, then people became more aware and took it seriously and they were wearing masks and avoid gathering, but after 3 months everything was reveresed: people stopped wearing masks, gatherings returned and the ignorant claims mentioned above came back. Today I asked a supermarket owner why at the beginning of the pandemic you were wearing a mask and now not? He literally said to me "I was not convinced about this pandemic back then and not convinced now"

It seems that people just got bored and tired and just want to close their eyes and pretend that everything is fine to get back to normal life.

I am with reopening everything and going back to normal life, but we should do that responsibly by doing at least the bare minimum to slow down the virus spread. Recent studies showed that wearing a mask is a very effective measure, is that too much to ask? Or is it a torturous thing to do? Just put on a mask for God sake!

Two hairstylists who had coronavirus saw 140 clients. No new infections have been linked to the salon
Both stylists worked at the same Great Clips location in Springfield. The clients and the stylists all wore face coverings, and the salon had set up other measures such as social distancing of chairs
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/missouri-hairstylists-coronavirus-clients-trnd/index.html
"This is exciting news about the value of masking to prevent Covid-19," said Clay Goddard, the county's director of health.

Now restaurants are full of people with nobody wearing mask even waiters! And boom we are in a second virus outbreak wave already and it is not even autmn yet! All of that because of the number one most irritating thing in life which is "ignorance".

 

[noneisnone]

Although I partly agree with that, but this is a global epidemic that is not specific to a country or another. For example what is the benefit of Covid-19 for imposing dictatorship regulations for the countries that already have dictatorship system! Think about it.

Simple fear mongering the average person would give two shits about laws being broken by his own government if it is listed under "emergency law" due to the government trying to "protect" the citizen

2 billion dollar loan the government took this week with no reports why and where it is going and even arrested a guy for posting a video on facebook about it under the flag of "fighting corona"

before corona such actions would cause protests now people are too scared to go against the government in anyway shape or form and if you question it you are deemed crazy and not looking out for the best interest

 

[Ostrados]

Simple fear mongering the average person would give two shits about laws being broken by his own government if it is listed under "emergency law" due to the government trying to "protect" the citizen

2 billion dollar loan the government took this week with no reports why and where it is going and even arrested a guy for posting a video on facebook about it under the flag of "fighting corona"

before corona such actions would cause protests now people are too scared to go against the government in anyway shape or form and if you question it you are deemed crazy and not looking out for the best interest

There are 2 separate things:

1. Is the pandemic real?
2. Is the pandemic planned?

We must agree that:

• #1 is true regardless of #2 true or false.
• If #2 is true then #1 is also true => you must wear a mask either way

 

[Ostrados]

Simple fear mongering the average person would give two shits about laws being broken by his own government if it is listed under "emergency law" due to the government trying to "protect" the citizen

2 billion dollar loan the government took this week with no reports why and where it is going and even arrested a guy for posting a video on facebook about it under the flag of "fighting corona"

before corona such actions would cause protests now people are too scared to go against the government in anyway shape or form and if you question it you are deemed crazy and not looking out for the best interest

We see protests going on in the US and other parts in the world normally, Covid didn't prevent people from practicing their rights.

If I chose a conspiracy theory then the only one that makes sense to me is that the whole purpose of this is to collapse the global economy maybe in an attempt to reshape it in an new world order economy?

 

[Jv1999]

We see protests going on in the US and other parts in the world normally, Covid didn't prevent people from practicing their rights.

If I chose a conspiracy theory then the only one that makes sense to me is the whole purpose of this is to collapse the global economy maybe in an attempt reshape it in an new world order economy?

You'll know by seeing who came out on top, financial-wise. Ecckkyy taught me a lot about the world and money and even when I thought money wasn't involved... he was right and money was involved :O.

So if it really is a conspiracy for money, then you'll know exactly who's behind it when you see who came out on top. China was hit hard, so it's not China.

 

[lock]

Can't tell anyone what to do people will do what ever they like regardless of warnings only deterrent is fine.

 

[topdom]

It needs to be allowed to spread in the summer, because most people will get the virus and not even get sick and get immunity , and probably not spread it in the future. If people overprotect themselves, then in the winter this will be a big problem. So allow it to spread gradually, and protect yourself by making your overall health good, not necessarily by not getting the virus; and be more careful to protect high risk groups: seniors, people with poor immunity and chronic diseases and autoimmune diseases etc. Also get lots of sunshine without sunscreens... And prevent evil people from spreading new viruses ( only govts can do something about this part).

 

[Compassion]

There are 2 separate things:

1. Is the pandemic real?
2. Is the pandemic planned?

We must agree that:

• #1 is true regardless of #2 true or false.
• If #2 is true then #1 is also true => you must wear a mask either way

it is actually common knowledge masks don't help. One may have to review basic immunology and seek info outside the lamestream media and learn to observe confirmation bias thoughts when exposed to different info.

.......and of course the psy op plandemic is a script. Politicians, Hollywood and the athletes are the actors, the tv is the theater.

Please learn about Event 201.

 

[frank-germany]

Japan
126.5 million inhabitants
<1000 deaths
NO LOCKDOWN
NO MASKS
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING

and if you know Japan from actually going there (I've been there) - you know everyone is really close together moreso than most countries. All 126.5 million people are packed on islands with less landmass than California.

I lost my glasses somewhere
could you please type

LARGER????

 

[Brian L.]

Japan
126.5 million inhabitants
<1000 deaths
NO LOCKDOWN
NO MASKS
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING

and if you know Japan from actually going there (I've been there) - you know everyone is really close together moreso than most countries. All 126.5 million people are packed on islands with less landmass than California.

Most shops and commercial facilities require everyone wear surgical masks in Japan. It’s also required on public transport. The Japanese government has been sending out millions of face masks to its residents for the last couple months. Many people in Japan were wearing masks in public even before there was any sort of pandemic.

 

[cipcip]

People are afraid of Corona Virus because it can affect both the rich and the poor.
There are a lot of people dying from world hunger in Africa every year, do you think someone gives a s*** ? There are some small orgs that are trying to give them food and water, but that is it.

In my home country, there are more deaths of regular seasonal flu plus chicken-pox, not corona.

Of course, they make the corona numbers high to get more money from the European Union, as they help each country that is affected by this. The higher the numbers, the more money you get.

 

[Compassion]

Back your claims please, what is your evidence on the 0.1%?
I would rather trust numbers from WHO and info from scientific papers rather than from rumors and forums.


The numbers are not published by mainstream media but are published from official source which is the ministry of health in each country. To fake numbers global you need the involvement of every country in the world! can you tell me how the whole world got united and agreed on conspiring on this? knowing that many countries are in opposition and direct conflict with each other and there was never an agreement between all countries in the world.

Lets say US & Europe are faking the numbers for some evil plot,
What about Brazil (4.6% death rate) or India (3% DR) or Iran (4.6% DR) or Egypt (4% DR)?
Are all these countries faking the numbers?

Go to this link and calculate death rate for any country:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The people who really run things in the medical world track the TOTAL MORTALITY numbers to extrapolate the truth of what is going on epidemiologically. This is what is traditionally utilized to determine if there is a prevalence of new killers in the world beyond what is typical.

Total Mortality rates are not higher, which for those with the eyes to see can translate this as fact that there actually is not a pandemic.

Ok if that isn't enough then I'll translate - the fact that total mortality levels are not elevated is proof that there is no pandemic as the wag-the-dog media has people believing.



Believing is the enemy of knowing.

 

[Ostrados]

it is actually common knowledge masks don't help. One may have to review basic immunology and seek info outside the lamestream media and learn to observe confirmation bias thoughts when exposed to different info.

.......and of course the psy op plandemic is a script. Politicians, Hollywood and the athletes are the actors, the tv is the theater.

Please learn about Event 201.

That is not true, please do not spread misinformation! All official sources say that masks help dramatically,
The main purpose of wearing a mask is to protect others in case you are carrying the virus not to protect yourself.
Many people are asymptomatic spreaders, you might have covid-19 without knowing, wearing a mask will protect people in your work for example from getting infected or at least will minimize the chances for the virus spread.

Read this:

Two hairstylists who had coronavirus saw 140 clients. No new infections have been linked to the salon
Both stylists worked at the same Great Clips location in Springfield. The clients and the stylists all wore face coverings, and the salon had set up other measures such as social distancing of chairs
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/us/missouri-hairstylists-coronavirus-clients-trnd/index.html
"This is exciting news about the value of masking to prevent Covid-19," said Clay Goddard, the county's director of health.

 

[Compassion]

https://khn.org/news/lost-on-the-frontline-health-care-worker-death-toll-covid19-coronavirus/

-quote
America’s health care workers are dying. In some states, medical personnel account for as many as 20% of known coronavirus cases. They tend to patients in hospitals, treating them, serving them food and cleaning their rooms. Others at risk work in nursing homes or are employed as home health aides.

“Lost on the Frontline,” a collaboration between KHN and The Guardian, has identified 655 such workers who likely died of COVID-19 after helping patients during the pandemic.

We have published profiles for 115 workers whose deaths have been confirmed by our reporters.

No doubt about it, if people rely on the barbaric methods of the Western medicine model alone to treat this strain of coronavirus, there is a higher risk of respiratory failure, especially if there are underlying health conditions (which lets face it, many people in the USA are pretty sick and have underlying health conditions)

Of every 1st world nation, the USA ranks statistically LAST in healthcare. Perhaps the model of the USA is not the one to follow?

Again, in China, herbal formulas became MANDATORY once the effectiveness was obvious.
But, that information doesn't fit the narrative of the fear scripts repeated on your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[Compassion]

I don't trust a youtube video
I trust official numbers announced by the governments of 215 countries
I trust medical studies & peer reviewed scientific papers

LOL, Got it - you trust the GOVERNMENT over trusting your own mind.

Govern = To conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of a group...
Ment = The mind. (mental)





Literally the government, by definition exists to CONTROL YOUR MINDS. Wake Up.

and....


If you actually read the scientific papers and medical studies, you will see the truth.

and if you actually read what the medical world is writing you would know that the numbers are extremely distorted and inaccurate.

In the US, Cv19 labels are tagged onto everyone possible for the $39,000 that the hospitals receive each time.

It's become a SICK joke, one can be a "covid" death even if it is "suspected" with zero testing (though highly inaccurate)

One can be a "covid" death even if they are 95 years old in hospice with three underlying conditions when clearly it was the diabetes, the cancer, the pneumonia and the old age that killed them!

and on,
and on,
and on . . .

 

[Ostrados]

LOL, Got it - you trust the GOVERNMENT over trusting your own mind.

Govern = To conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of a group...
Ment = The mind. (mental)

No I dont trust "the" government, but I trust data from 215 governments that in no way can be in coordination and agreement in faking this pandemic.. it is simply an impossible conspiracy theory.

The real conspiracy here is not the existence of the pandemic but whether it is man made and for what purpose.

Use your mind.

 

[topdom]

Yes, it is man-made, otherwise this would be too much coincidence. It is about global power transition. ( but it is not a war between countries , or ideologies, or religions, or races etc, both sides of the conflict are global, and one of them represents humanity (maybe indirectly), and the other side is the old s-a-t-a-n-i-c group).

 

[frank-germany]

LOL, Got it - you trust the GOVERNMENT over trusting your own mind.

Govern = To conduct the policy, actions, and affairs of a group...
Ment = The mind. (mental)





Literally the government, by definition exists to CONTROL YOUR MINDS. Wake Up.

and....


If you actually read the scientific papers and medical studies, you will see the truth.

and if you actually read what the medical world is writing you would know that the numbers are extremely distorted and inaccurate.

In the US, Cv19 labels are tagged onto everyone possible for the $39,000 that the hospitals receive each time.

It's become a SICK joke, one can be a "covid" death even if it is "suspected" with zero testing (though highly inaccurate)

One can be a "covid" death even if they are 95 years old in hospice with three underlying conditions when clearly it was the diabetes, the cancer, the pneumonia and the old age that killed them!

and on,
and on,
and on . . .

looks like you are a bright mind
really
you think by yourself
and judge by yourself

maybe you should invest in domain names

 

[cipcip]

I am just shy of 1.96 meters but only 71kg
I could not imagine packing 44 more kilo’s under the belt. You a bodybuilder?
Who says i am in denial?
I am just to busy working and going about life like its normal. Except standing in line 20 minutes at bank. i asked my gp other day, when you start seeing patients in person?
1 year he said.
.

Nope, I am just puffy. My smart scale says that I have 78kg of muscle from 115kg, so I do not know how much weight I can lose, but still, I have a belly

 

[frank-germany]

Nope, I am just puffy. My smart scale says that I have 78kg of muscle from 115kg, so I do not know how much weight I can lose, but still, I have a belly

get a straight posture
belly becomes smaller

 

[frank-germany]

the other 215 countries make up the world, they were onboard from the beginning, Covid is the revolution of New World Order, unless the leader of world and super power collapses, nwo can not happen, the US is collapsing. Yes it is man made

so you think they united the world?
must be great guys then

 

[frank-germany]

the world was already united , the objective is trim all the fat, 1 world currency, 1 religion and so forth, one could think of it as total world equality if they wanted to. But it’s far deeper than that

yes I get it
you think of bitcoin

 

[.X.]

people mostly is idiot and covid helped us to see how many idiots are around

that’s a good short analogy of it all

 

[.X.]

yes I get it
you think of bitcoin

there will be leader and co leader , that being China and Russia , the US will not voluntarily relinquish its super power and world leader status, so they are crushing the west and its allies with bankruptcy to recieve compliance to the agenda

 

[branding]

that is not to attack or kill society, but they all kept getting really upset with my posts in that thread, so I left the thread a good while back

but the thread is about the topic we are speaking, I know it has nothing to do with domaining , It is like “break room” talk

people just giving opinions is all

It's still nonsense. I don't mind. I like a fair bit of crazy. I would love to know what the reasoning is behind your statement on the first thing I quoted.

 

[branding]

people just giving opinions is all

Opinions don't matter. Facts matter. I see a lot of opinions being advertised as facts these days.