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Why I love end-users bringing up GTLD alternatives...

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In the last couple of months, I've had a couple of people try to bring up other TLDs during negotiations. One was for .blog another was .io

I find these so easy to rebuttal that I now almost welcome these "gTLD" objections. It opens a door for me to better elaborate on the value of my domain.

For the .io guy, who told me he can get the same name on .io for $30, I sent him a link to the sale of Agario.com, a domain that once had next to no liquid value or type-ins, now gets a ton of free traffic, and sold for $10K in an auction simply because of the popularity of Agar.io. I sincerely wished him the best of luck with the popularity of new project using .io. In response he increased his offer substantially than his initial lowball (which was still less than what I would consider, he was a small-time app developer and just didn't have the budget). Till this day, the .io version of my domain remains unregistered. He probably opted for another .com within his budget.

For the .blog guy, I replied the same, but this time also referred him to Twitch.com which was acquired by Amazon after acquiring Twitch.tv, and also educated him on the fact that there was no way that the keyword.blog equivalent of my domain was going to be available for a standard regfee (it's a 3-letter 1-word), it'll be either taken by another investor or have a premium renewal, not to mention increase the value of my domain should his blog become a success. They emailed me a week later with a higher offer, again one I don't care to accept.

So just a word of advice when negotiating, gTLDs make your domains more valuable folks, not less. People just have budgets to work with and have new options to settle for, and for those who settle and find a gtld will help them be looked at as "innovators" and will "stand out" - Go right ahead, you're driving up traffic and demand for a keyword or phrase available on thousands of other extensions, including the .com that is sitting there getting more traffic than it originally did, waiting to be purchased, likely by another innovator with a bigger budget.
 
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Failing to discuss cctlds that have opened up to everyone recently, not sure why. Only old news and links..

One example; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ky ;)

This still missed the point. The question was if the string launched was really needed or if it was launched to make money only. Even if a ccTLD opens up that doesn't change the fact that it was launched because it had a real purpose and tried to solve a real problem not because it was a money grab.
 
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This still missed the point. The question was if the string launched was really needed or if it was launched to make money only. Even if a ccTLD opens up that doesn't change the fact that it was launched because it had a real purpose not a money grab.

Nope spot on, I was replying to Kate's reply that gTLDs are a money grab. All cctlds that opened up to people like me, later, that would be a money grab too. Had to be approved by ICANN for more keyword regs within their extension, rule changes.

No debate there...
 
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Nope spot on, I was replying to Kate's reply that gTLDs are a money grab. All cctlds that opened up to people like me, later, that would be a money grab too. Had to be approved by ICANN for more keyword regs within their extension.

No debate there...

ccTLDs are not a money grab because they fullfill a real purpose and the main purpose is not to make money but to provide a local country extension.

The main purpose of nTLDs was to make money for ICANN and registry investors.

https://www.dynadot.com/domain/search.html?domain=crap.live&search=
 
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In the last couple of months, I've had a couple of people try to bring up other TLDs during negotiations. One was for .blog another was .io

I find these so easy to rebuttal that I now almost welcome these "gTLD" objections. It opens a door for me to better elaborate on the value of my domain.

For the .io guy, who told me he can get the same name on .io for $30, I sent him a link to the sale of Agario.com, a domain that once had next to no liquid value or type-ins, now gets a ton of free traffic, and sold for $10K in an auction simply because of the popularity of Agar.io. I sincerely wished him the best of luck with the popularity of new project using .io. In response he increased his offer substantially than his initial lowball (which was still less than what I would consider, he was a small-time app developer and just didn't have the budget). Till this day, the .io version of my domain remains unregistered. He probably opted for another .com within his budget.

For the .blog guy, I replied the same, but this time also referred him to Twitch.com which was acquired by Amazon after acquiring Twitch.tv, and also educated him on the fact that there was no way that the keyword.blog equivalent of my domain was going to be available for a standard regfee (it's a 3-letter 1-word), it'll be either taken by another investor or have a premium renewal, not to mention increase the value of my domain should his blog become a success. They emailed me a week later with a higher offer, again one I don't care to accept.

So just a word of advice when negotiating, gTLDs make your domains more valuable folks, not less. People just have budgets to work with and have new options to settle for, and for those who settle and find a gtld will help them be looked at as "innovators" and will "stand out" - Go right ahead, you're driving up traffic and demand for a keyword or phrase available on thousands of other extensions, including the .com that is sitting there getting more traffic than it originally did, waiting to be purchased, likely by another innovator with a bigger budget.
Twitch.com has definitely more value than Twitch.tv but IMO Twitch.tv has far more value than TwitchTV.com

Same thing for your .blog domain ...
Letยดs say your domain is TradingBlog.com ...
IMO Trading.blog has more value than the 2 words .COM domain because is shorter, more specific and is a ONE word domain name, so comparable to Trading.com as well ...

New gTLDs that make sense together KEYWORD+EXTENSION have more value (or will have more value over the years / they are not well known right now) than the matching 2 words .COM domain.
Internet is changing and new generations will definitely adopt the New gTLDs which still in their infancy ...
Just my opinion !!!
 
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Twitch.com has definitely more value than Twitch.tv but IMO Twitch.tv has far more value than TwitchTV.com

Same thing for your .blog domain ...
Letยดs say your domain is TradingBlog.com ...
IMO Trading.blog has more value than the 2 words .COM domain because is shorter, more specific and is a ONE word domain name, so comparable to Trading.com as well ...

New gTLDs that make sense together KEYWORD+EXTENSION have more value (or will have more value over the years / they are not well known right now) than the matching 2 words .COM domain.
Internet is changing and new generations will definitely adopt the New gTLDs which still in their infancy ...
Just my opinion !!!

what generations? Those born in 2016? Millennials have been conditioned to use .com

Trading.blog has more value than the 2 words .COM domain because is shorter, more specific and is a ONE word domain name, so comparable to Trading.com as well .

It is two words. You have to remember 2 words not 1. If I tell you TRADING you can try visiting the .com but you don't know what other word is.

TRADING.BLOG requires you to memorize 2 words not 1.

Why is it more specific? The information in the string is exactly the same.

TRADING.sx is a one word domain too but it doesn't have any value.
 
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Twitch.com has definitely more value than Twitch.tv but IMO Twitch.tv has far more value than TwitchTV.com

Same thing for your .blog domain ...
Letยดs say your domain is TradingBlog.com ...
IMO Trading.blog has more value than the 2 words .COM domain because is shorter, more specific and is a ONE word domain name, so comparable to Trading.com as well ...

New gTLDs that make sense together KEYWORD+EXTENSION have more value (or will have more value over the years / they are not well known right now) than the matching 2 words .COM domain.
Internet is changing and new generations will definitely adopt the New gTLDs which still in their infancy ...
Just my opinion !!!

No matter how you look at it, even if you think trading.blog is a better domain than TradingBlog.com, the fact of the matter is, if trading.blog goes viral and TradingBlog.com is sitting there available to be purchased, the chances of someone knocking on your door to buy it and pay more for it just increased had trading.blog never existed. Therefore = successful gTLDs are actually pumping the values of .COMs in the long haul, even if used as just defensive acquisitions or as primary domains. It's a win-win for .COM investors.
 
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A one-word domain that will leak traffic to the .com, never the other way around unless it's from curious investors or others "in-the-know", how does that not make it inferior at least from a marketing stand-point?
 
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what generations? Those born in 2016? Millennials have been conditioned to use .com



It is two words. You have to remember 2 words not 1. If I tell you TRADING you can try visiting the .com but you don't know what other word is.

TRADING.BLOG requires you to memorize 2 words not 1.

Why is it more specific? The information in the string is exactly the same.

TRADING.sx is a one word domain too but it doesn't have any value.

what generations? Those born in 2016? Millennials have been conditioned to use .com

Not necessary ...

TRADING.BLOG requires you to memorize 2 words not 1

But is a ONE word domain, not a TWO words domain ...
 
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Doesn't matter when cctlds were added, it's still a keyword money grab per your opinion and nothing different than new gTLDs.

Your position is clear, anything is a keyword ICANN money grab as you stated other than what .com?

You're really going back into the time machine now, if I'm correct I'm thinking .us had restrictions back then. :)


as for .de thats utter nonsense
 
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]what generations? Those born in 2016? Millennials have been conditioned to use .com

Not necessary ...

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/teen-angst/201601/top-five-social-networking-sites-used-teens

Top Five Social Networking Sites Used by Teens

1. Facebook.com
2. Instagram.com
3.Snapchat.com
4.Twitter.com
5.plus.google.com

They grew up with .com like anyone else.

TRADING.BLOG requires you to memorize 2 words not 1

But is a ONE word domain, not a TWO words domain

It doesn't matter it is still two words that are needed to construct it.
 
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Why did you use BrandClub.Com and not Brand.club?
 
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yes when millennials retire...
Even if youโ€™re on the right track, youโ€™ll get run over if you just sit there.
โ€”Will Rogersโ€”
 
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And again - you will not get any significant traffic on your .COMs if HUGE traffic is absent on donor...
So whole story is just some case but not a rule to avoid other TLDs.
 
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Also, it depends on length... type-in on medium and long .COMs is weak or even ~0.
 
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6L.com and HUGE donor are mentioned here, so nothing special if it receives type-in...
 
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