Why are you not invested in .tv?

[*AllThings.tv*]

I am trying to understand why some domainers are not leveraging the .tv extension to diversify their portfolios. If you can share your thoughts with me, I would greatly appreciate it and I will begin a summarized list for everyone to review here.

Like so many .tv enthusiasts on this site, I credit the .tv extension for bringing me into the world of domaining and I have since invested in .com and .mobi.

I have learned a tremendous amount and continue to learn more every day, but I want to learn more why others are staying away. Is it that you feel the .tv extension is hype, is it overpriced in your opinion, are the returns not as great as the ones you are seeing in other areas, or the short term outlook not lucrative enough to justify the investment (but you possibly see the potential .tv has in the future)?

I genuinely want to know.

 

[StoneRoses]

. I just don't like the idea of registration fee could be a lot higher the following year.

This was a problem for many of us, however it appears to be resolved.

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/350821-quinn-daly-interview.html

 

[edyst3]

I'm afraid of investing on dot tv. Because I am not sure what the purpose is. I mean if dot TV is used for tv channel or video sharing (as like as youtube) It's still better using ".com" or ".net".

Perhaps someone can give me opinion about .tv in future...

 

[Len]

The difference is that YouTube and the likes is just a mish-mash of anything and everything that people have put on video. The beauty of .tv is that it allows you to create a niche with audience specific video and information. For example you have London.tv; London is one of the top tourist destinations in the world yet besides the obvious sight's e.g. Nelson's column, House's of Parliament, Buckingham Palace etc.
How many of the hundred's of hotel's,park's,festival's and other less puplicised sight's have you heard about?? Using London.tv you are able to display all sorts of info and video of London and the surrounding area's. Giving the viewer much more than they could get from any .com site or brochure at the moment!

 

[xman]

This was a problem for many of us, however it appears to be resolved.

http://www.namepros.com/dot-tv/350821-quinn-daly-interview.html

Pricing structure resolved?

Probably not.

Here's some insight from dailydomainer.com

"Will .tv have a chance to take off? Yes, if Demand Media provides clear guidance on actual renewal fees. Right now, buyers of premium .tv domains do not know what they are getting themselves into and whether the amount pay is a once-off purchase price or an annual renewal fee." http://www.dailydomainer.com/2007154-tv-is-turned-on-again.html

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

Using London.tv you are able to display all sorts of info and video of London and the surrounding area's. Giving the viewer much more than they could get from any .com site or brochure at the moment!

Hmmmm, right now all it's giving me is this message:

Site Unavailable
If you are the site administrator please contact us at 1-888-511-4678 Option #4 as soon as possible.

Is this site launched?

 

[Len]

Sorry if this was misleading. I was using this as a general reference as to what you could do with such a name in the .tv extension. I was not suggesting that this site was actually up and running.

 

[RogueWriter]

Pricing structure resolved?

Probably not.

Here's some insight from dailydomainer.com

"Will .tv have a chance to take off? Yes, if Demand Media provides clear guidance on actual renewal fees. Right now, buyers of premium .tv domains do not know what they are getting themselves into and whether the amount pay is a once-off purchase price or an annual renewal fee." http://www.dailydomainer.com/2007154-tv-is-turned-on-again.html

Actually, it has been stated that these are annual renewal prices, I believe Quinn answered several cost related questions in her latest interview.

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

Sorry if this was misleading. I was using this as a general reference as to what you could do with such a name in the .tv extension. I was not suggesting that this site was actually up and running.

It's a great idea. Would boost tourism even more. I have been to London and fell in love with the city, and was really interested in visiting the site you described, lol.

 

[Domagon]

Another detail to consider, though it's admittedly a small one in relation to the others, is that .TV is governed by the laws of Tuvalu...

Thus Tuvalu reserve the right to change the rules anytime ... and to force whoever (Demand Media at the moment) is operating the extension to comply ... ie. block domains, transfer domains, cancel domains, etc with the registrant likely having little to no recourse - perhaps at best getting a pro-rated refund and/or offered a different domain instead.

And don't think this hasn't happened before ... it has ... two ccTLDs immediately come to mind ... I've personally had problems with both .TM and .US ... lost Sex.TM and F*ckCensorship.US (the former was canceled and the latter is on perpetual hold) ...

Getting back to .TV, I personally am leery of it mainly because the price can change anytime ... while the renewal price may be X today, it could be Z tomorrow ... where's the guarantee it won't? ... and if it changes unexpectedly what effective, legal recourse does one have?

In a nutshell, uncertainty is the biggest reason many avoid .TV

Ron

 

[StoneRoses]

Another detail to consider, though it's admittedly a small one in relation to the others, is that .TV is governed by the laws of Tuvalu...

Wrong, Verisign control the rights to to all .tv names, and have a contract to continue to do so for the years to come ( not sure until when the deal is i think it's 2020, maybe someone can let me know)

Tuvalu have no say in it what so ever, they get a flat payment every quarter from Verisign as part of the agreement.

[/QUOTE]Thus Tuvalu reserve the right to change the rules anytime ... and to force whoever (Demand Media at the moment) is operating the extension to comply ... ie. block domains, transfer domains, cancel domains, etc with the registrant likely having little to no recourse - perhaps at best getting a pro-rated refund and/or offered a different domain instead.[/QUOTE]

Not true, and the deal is with Verisign and not Demand Media


[/QUOTE]Getting back to .TV, I personally am leery of it mainly because the price can change anytime ... while the renewal price may be X today, it could be Z tomorrow ... where's the guarantee it won't? ... and if it changes unexpectedly what effective, legal recourse does one have?[/QUOTE]

What you pay to reg the name for today, will be the price you continue to pay every year, providing you do not let the name drop.

www.allthings.tv has recently interviewed Quinn Daly from Demand Media on the subject of pricing/renewals along with other topics that may interest anyone considering investing in .tv.





Thanks

 

[Domagon]

Whether it's VeriSign or Demand Media who operates .TV, the point remains that Tuvalu ultimately calls the shots.

For example, Neustar has an agreement with the U.S. government to operate .US ... and yet was forced by the U.S. government to retroactively block some domains, such as F*ckCensorship.US.

VeriSign does not control .TV ... they are little more than the Technical Contact ... here's the whois for .TV:

http://www.iana.org/root-whois/tv.htm

Sponsoring Organization:
Ministry of Finance and Tourism
2 Vaiaku Rd
Vaiaku, Funafuti
Tuvalu

Administrative Contact:
Director of ICT
Ministry of Communications and Transport
2 Vaiaku Rd
Vaiaku, Funafuti
Tuvalu
Email: [email protected]
Voice: + (688) 20055
Fax: + (688) 20722

Technical Contact:
Registry Customer Service
Verisign Global Registry Services
21345 Ridgetop Circle
Dulles, Virginia 20166
United States
Email: [email protected]
Voice: +1 703 925-6999
Fax: +1 703 421-5828

Domain Servers:

a3.nstld.com 192.5.6.32
c3.nstld.com 192.26.92.32
d3.nstld.com 192.31.80.32
e3.nstld.com 192.12.94.32
g3.nstld.com 192.42.93.32
h3.nstld.com 192.54.112.32
l3.nstld.com 192.41.162.32
m3.nstld.com 192.55.83.32

URL for registration services: http://www.tv

Whois server: None listed.

Record last updated - 28-September-2005
Record created - 18-March-1996

In regards to pricing ... please point me to the legal agreement that specifically guarantees the renewal rates remain the same (or at least limited to a nominal increase per year) for years and years ... I tried find such legalise and couldn't ... even if I did, the VeriSign terms would likely make them mute, since I saw something to the effect they reserve the right to change pricing, etc anytime. So where is the guarantee exactly?

On an aside, I just tried to register a .TV to see if I could get to a Terms page ... well suffice to say, I didn't get that far ... instead I got this error:

Server Error in '/' Application.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Could not load file or assembly 'App_Web_wh17gg2n, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'App_Web_wh17gg2n, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified....

...and that was just the error summery ... not reassuring.

Ron

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

Does the current $19.99 GoDaddy price affect your decision to invest in .tv?

 

[Len]

Those who do not have the confidence to take the plunge into the .tv market should take a look at the .tv forum and see for yourself some of the great sales that are taking place. With the up coming .tv auction next week this extention is going places...fast! You snooze...You lose!!

 

[NameCharger]

edited

Had to create a new enom.tv account instead of logging in enom.tv with my enom.com account to get the $24.95 price instead of $44.95.

 

[Len]

To purchase @ $24.95 you have to log in @ enom.tv not enom.com

 

[Carlton]

I think .tv is already established and the fear of a flop is unfounded due to some of the big players involved. .tv will be around for a very long time to come and the guys with some nice generics will be laughing all the way to the bank

ditto

 

[italiandragon]

Pricing , And i do not think the extension has a future.

I agree with X,

and for me .tv was , is and will be TUVALU.

I hate to see that some ccTLDs are totally manipulated by some American companies only to profit and squeeze more money.

I hate to see that Americans c an`t get in their head that .US is their ccTLD while .com IS NOT their ccTLD.

I hate to see .cc , .fm , .tv , .whatever pushed to mean other things rather than its original purpose.

I do not believe this is the way to run the internet and I do believe that ONE (BEAUTIFUL) day the ICANN will be replaced by something else (possibly an international no-profit organisation) and this mess will be fixed.

 

[Moses]

I have only one .tv and it is for future development.
I only see the point registering one if the site will be video related. But lot of domains that are for sale and registered haeno point being a good video site. Some names just dont make sense.

 

[gr8trfoo]

I agree with X,

and for me .tv was , is and will be TUVALU.

I hate to see that some ccTLDs are totally manipulated by some American companies only to profit and squeeze more money.

I hate to see that Americans c an`t get in their head that .US is their ccTLD while .com IS NOT their ccTLD.

I hate to see .cc , .fm , .tv , .whatever pushed to mean other things rather than its original purpose.

I do not believe this is the way to run the internet and I do believe that ONE (BEAUTIFUL) day the ICANN will be replaced by something else (possibly an international no-profit organisation) and this mess will be fixed.

Your hate is blinding you to most other people's reality.

I've met at least a dozen guys who "hated" it when domains quit being free. The refused to pay "the extortion" and allowed some of the best domains of our day to delete. Some of them now hate themselves.

Most people have never heard of Tuvalu let alone know that .tv is it's ccTLD. Most people who see MLB.tv or Hollywood.tv won't be thinking "hollywood dot tuvalu, that dont make no f'n sense" will they? What do you suppose they will in fact be thinking. I have an idea but I could be wrong.

Sorry, but the world is not likely to be the way each of us "knows" it ought to be.

BTW, just outta curiosity how do you feel about .mobi?

 

[htmlindex]

Those who do not have the confidence to take the plunge into the .tv market should take a look at the .tv forum and see for yourself some of the great sales that are taking place. With the up coming .tv auction next week this extention is going places...fast! You snooze...You lose!!

Nah, don't bother investing in .tv, it's not worth it, don't create too much competition. :p