Why are You not Invested in LLLL dot Com?

[bro]

I am not addressing to those who already hold good number of LLLL dot coms..

I have been spending time in appraisal forum just to see what sort of domains people are buying and reading appraisals just to get to know more about domain names ... I have noticed many of the people are brining in some too creative domain names (yep too creative and sometimes too long) and appraisals suggest they are regfee and nothing much ...

why dont you buy LLLL dot com which guarantee you at least a little profit no matter how ugly the name is .. see in namepros auction each name is going in more than regfee ..

are you still not sure about value of LLLL dot com?


Still there are many four letter domain names left which are good enough to get you $20 at least just after registration (small profit for newbies and +1 trade rank) and if you keep them for some time then more profit for sure ...


Ps- English is my second language, I tried to elaborate my point addressing newbies like me ( comments welcome from senior members and all )

 

[.X.]

When approaching an end user to sell a LLLL.com , Keep in mind, If you were to tell them, You have several VCVC or CVCV , They wont have a clue as to what your talking about, And wont care either, So here again i see a trend of domainer to domaner sales, This could go on for years, The value may rise as a domainer to domainer sale, But as far as end users, Only the top premuim will be seeked out, In my opinion, So anything under top premuim, Doesn't have a good future, Nor will it attract end user buyers, Imo

 

[tzsxc]

When approaching an end user to sell a LLLL.com , Keep in mind, If you were to tell them, You have several VCVC or CVCV , They wont have a clue as to what your talking about, And wont care either, So here again i see a trend of domainer to domaner sales, This could go on for years, The value may rise as a domainer to domainer sale, But as far as end users, Only the top premuim will be seeked out, In my opinion, So anything under top premuim, Doesn't have a good future, Nor will it attract end user buyers, Imo

I failed to see how this problem is unique to LLLL.com. The same problem exists for LLL.com as well. If domainers hadn't pushed up the price of LLL.com, would they be selling this high to end-users? I think one very much fuels the other.

 

[floatingworld]

I laugh when I read the answers why not, because they are exactly the same arguments put forward for not registering LLL or buying random LLL names when they were relatively cheap. Of course random 4Ls will never reach the value of 3L and will take some time to appreciate (they are still below $10...they must be if there are 20k left), and there is no 100% guarantee of a successful investment...but all the pointers are in the right direction......on the other hand (hah!) I wonder if the purpose of this thread is not to stampede late-comers into registering some of the remaining 20k names in order to push up portfolio values............

 

[bro]

I dont see any LLLL going for less than $10 in the namepros domain auctions while its among domainers so I wont belive they are still below $10 and I just wonder why people say that LLLL are still among domainers because how can you expect an end user who has no idea or tools to find out available LLLL ... as its easy for a domainer to find out available LLLL plus still LLLL is not so hot in the market as they will become by the time to appeal end users...

If you have patience to spend some time with the available LLLL list you might come up with good names too .. ok just for example I would mention few LLLL wich I got within a week and they are good IMO ..

vmym - looks cool to me
vmyc - I love this name because its my sports team name MYC - and there is oxford dictionary on my desk to give me at least one suitable word for prefix V
Dziw - Results 1 - 10 of about 375,000 for dziw
vmjm - looks cool to me

And 2 more LLLL which I wont mention but they are even better than above domains except vmyc ;0

apart from these names there are many I registered and they are enough good to sell anytime ...


I am looking forward to buy some more good ones (good IMO)

 

[italiandragon]

I don`t invite people to buy LLLL.com because it`s a free choice.

I`m sure even without this forum , they will end. Yes we may helped to make it happen earlier but I`m also sure that the people who don`t believe too much in what I and other astute domainers see , they will sell immediately keeping the average sales lower, so I don`t really care if they buy or not. Actually sometimes these days I prefer that it does not finish too soon the available list because I don`t have much money but I`d like to reg more of them.

 

[.X.]

I failed to see how this problem is unique to LLLL.com. The same problem exists for LLL.com as well. If domainers hadn't pushed up the price of LLL.com, would they be selling this high to end-users? I think one very much fuels the other.

That is true to an extint, But big corporate companies love to get the LLL.com of thier company.

I never said i didn't invest in LLLL.com through out this thread, I have 20 that i have kept, The rest i have sold off :hehe: I invested in them, but it was back in 2002 and 2003, The 20 i have kept, I will keep for the long haul.

 

[DomainMayhem.com]

At the end of the day if you can't think of what it could be used for then why should you expect anyone else to know ?

That's the problem-not enough people are thinking outside the box (investors). I would hesitate to say that if I cannot think of a use for an LLLL.com that no one else can think of one either. Every single day, I think to myself "WOW, I NEVER thought of using (insert domain name here) like that!"

Just my $ .02.

 

[dezinerite]

I agree, but you know....every newbie needs to experience mistakes to learn how to avoid them.

I agree, I'm a complete no0b on this subject and I'm only just starting to recognize the value of lll and llll domains. Their value will definitely go up in time, esp. because of how rare it's becoming. I'd definitely grab hold of as many as possible, probably just to end up earning a profit from reselling the domains.

 

[.X.]

That's the problem-not enough people are thinking outside the box (investors). I would hesitate to say that if I cannot think of a use for an LLLL.com that no one else can think of one either. Every single day, I think to myself "WOW, I NEVER thought of using (insert domain name here) like that!"

Just my $ .02.

That's what makes so many LLLL.coms worthless, They have no use, I have seen people in the chat, Trying to make up names for useless LLLL.com's , Think of this, You approach an end user, You tell them, I have an excellent LLLL.com, It is qzrb.com ... Then you tell them, But wait! This name is excellent, It is "Quick Zebras Run Backwards" The end user has wet thier britches, Laughing so hard, My point is, If a LLLL.com has no true use, It is worthless, imo, Naughta, worth $0.00

I agree, I'm a complete no0b on this subject and I'm only just starting to recognize the value of lll and llll domains. Their value will definitely go up in time, esp. because of how rare it's becoming. I'd definitely grab hold of as many as possible, probably just to end up earning a profit from reselling the domains.

LLL.com is rare...LLLL.com is NOT rare, At 456,976 LLLL.com's , You would be much better off investing three character .com's , They are rare, Such as Letter-Letter-Number.com , However in most cases, You wont find an end user buyer for those either, They are few and far between, That actually have use. They are big salers from domainer to domainer though.

 

[nicedomains]

That's what makes so many LLLL.coms worthless, They have no use, I have seen people in the chat, Trying to make up names for useless LLLL.com's.

It's not that you have to make up names for llll.com's ! It makes no sense to use this argument. lol. Naturally, there will be businesses, organizations, and people (personal websites) that will prefer to use an easy to remember 4 letter .com instead of whole words even if it is something like QZRB.com Which btw. brings up 14k+ results when typed into google, mostly foreign (asian) results but nonetheless results. Oh yea and there is a site on http://www.qzrb.com.cn not sure what it is b/c I can't translate it but who is to say that the .com is worthless to them? My point is that there is a use for nearly every llll.com whether you believe it or not.

Think of this, You approach an end user, You tell them, I have an excellent LLLL.com, It is qzrb.com ... Then you tell them, But wait! This name is excellent, It is "Quick Zebras Run Backwards" The end user has wet thier britches, Laughing so hard, My point is, If a LLLL.com has no true use, It is worthless, imo, Naughta, worth $0.00

:bah:

Who goes to an end user and tells them what the acronym means to them anyway? Usually an end user will be seeking out that domain for a purpose not because of some lame words you may associate with the acronym. I dunno maybe I am much more optimistic, especially since .com extension has and most likely always will be the most valuable extension.

:imho:

 

[johntv]

...like QZRB.com Which btw. brings up 14k+ results when typed into google, mostly foreign (asian) results but nonetheless results. Oh yea and there is a site on http://www.qzrb.com.cn not sure what it is b/c I can't translate it but who is to say that the .com is worthless to them? My point is that there is a use for nearly every llll.com whether you believe it or not.

Nice search

 

[.X.]

It's not that you have to make up names for llll.com's ! It makes no sense to use this argument. lol. Naturally, there will be businesses, organizations, and people (personal websites) that will prefer to use an easy to remember 4 letter .com instead of whole words even if it is something like QZRB.com Which btw. brings up 14k+ results when typed into google, mostly foreign (asian) results but nonetheless results. Oh yea and there is a site on http://www.qzrb.com.cn not sure what it is b/c I can't translate it but who is to say that the .com is worthless to them? My point is that there is a use for nearly every llll.com whether you believe it or not.



:bah:

Who goes to an end user and tells them what the acronym means to them anyway? Usually an end user will be seeking out that domain for a purpose not because of some lame words you may associate with the acronym. I dunno maybe I am much more optimistic, especially since .com extension has and most likely always will be the most valuable extension.

:imho:

When an end user is purchasing a name, You don't have to tell them anything, They aren't gonna pay x,xxx or above for a name, until they know what they are getting, and www.acronymattic.com is just a click away

 

[italiandragon]

That's what makes so many LLLL.coms worthless, They have no use, I have seen people in the chat, Trying to make up names for useless LLLL.com's , Think of this, You approach an end user, You tell them, I have an excellent LLLL.com, It is qzrb.com ... Then you tell them, But wait! This name is excellent, It is "Quick Zebras Run Backwards" The end user has wet thier britches, Laughing so hard, My point is, If a LLLL.com has no true use, It is worthless, imo, Naughta, worth $0.00



LLL.com is rare...LLLL.com is NOT rare, At 456,976 LLLL.com's , You would be much better off investing three character .com's , They are rare, Such as Letter-Letter-Number.com , However in most cases, You wont find an end user buyer for those either, They are few and far between, That actually have use. They are big salers from domainer to domainer though.

Hi X, the point is that LLL.com 3 years ago were not rare as they are now.
And still then I`m sure there were plenty of people saying the same things about QXZ.com while now those people who did not reg QXZ.com for $7 are biting their own hands.
Today to enter the market of LLL.com you need to put around $5,000 to get 1 of not premium letter.
In a year, do you think that same LLL.com will worth $50,000 ? I don`t think so, maybe later yes, but not in a year.
Instead, to get the same 900 % return , you need to buy a $7 LLLL.com and sell it for $70 between 12 months, which may be really possible.
Plus, there are some risk factors: if the whole .com market collapse, a $5,000 ugly LLL.com may lose a lot of its value.....and end up selling for $1,000 , while a $7 ugly LLLL.com it`s unrealistic to sell for less than $10 since all LLLL.com will be taken. So the advantages clearly beat the disadvantages.
And if ot was not enought I tell you one more. Americans at Wall Street say "don`t put all your eggs in one basket"......diversification:

With those $5,000 you can buy 1 LLL.com OR register about 700 LLLL.com

How many chances do you have to meet an END USER in the 2 cases?

I`m sure I don`t need to explain it.

Well, I let you guys discuss further on this topic, I don`t want to push anyone anymore to reg anything. I`ll be reader from now on

Kind regards

 

[diddie]

italiandragon: with $5k today i would rather buy 1 LLL.com than 700 LLLL.coms, how things are going today it can only go higher , unless a major terrorist attack or a market crash (and even in that case you would have to hold it for 6 months or a year to take money back)

 

[NeeJam]

People aren't investing becuase they have either missed out on the premiums and they have missed out on the good pronounceables too.

So they are thinking should i get other LLLL.com's or invest in another area and try and profit from that area? Which i say good on them and i hope it works for them

However, i managed to get a nice small collection of LLLL.com's with a couple of them pronounceable too and i'll be looking to add a couple extra to my collection soon Personally i think its upto the person if they want a LLLL.com or if they want another domain to make money off either way the people who aren't investing in them are the people saying they wont be worth $200 in 2009 etc (just look at zayo.com sold for $7.5k on afternic and it looks like there are going to be more sales like this too ), i dont know why they are commenting on them when they arent investing in them though because they dont have an interest in them so why estimate a value which is wrong in the current market's now.

Anyways look at the LLL.com's when people said they wouldn't be the value they are at a couple of years ago and look at them now. So why not invest a couple of bucks in a llll.com because either way your going to make a profit off it!

 

[sashas]

Lorenzo, I totally agree with you on this.

I've posted another thread regarding this and why I believe short names will be worth a lot, including the 5 letter ones.

The problem is that many people here are looking at things just 3-4 years in the future. I would rather look at them 10 years in the future. So many domainers must be ruing lost chances when they couldn't see the dot com explosion in 1995 when they were still so many great names available to reg. Why? Cause they thought of only the next 5 years, not 50.

The internet, television, telephones are the three DEFINITIVE pieces of technology today. Even cars can go obsolete in the future, but not these three. Think of the number of businesses around the world that DO NOT have an online presence. They will all require domain names when they finally get their websites up to catch up with the competition.
Then think about the number of businesses that will come up in the next 10 years and require websites.

The number is HUGE.

I, for one, am investing in LLLL.coms.

 

[fixxation]

All the talk of LLLL.com's in this thread prompted me to try and find a few decent names leftover, and I was surprised that I was able to register two domains that contain 3 premium letters each:

dhvr.com
erhj.com

Not bad eh!

Cheers,
A.

 

[bro]

I found these 2 last night , register them if anyone interested and I think they are worth sth as they are vccv ...

OYQI - truly vccv
OVJY - Is that Y vowel here lol

sorry for going off topic

cheers

 

[.X.]

Hi X, the point is that LLL.com 3 years ago were not rare as they are now.
And still then I`m sure there were plenty of people saying the same things about QXZ.com while now those people who did not reg QXZ.com for $7 are biting their own hands.
Today to enter the market of LLL.com you need to put around $5,000 to get 1 of not premium letter.
In a year, do you think that same LLL.com will worth $50,000 ? I don`t think so, maybe later yes, but not in a year.
Instead, to get the same 900 % return , you need to buy a $7 LLLL.com and sell it for $70 between 12 months, which may be really possible.
Plus, there are some risk factors: if the whole .com market collapse, a $5,000 ugly LLL.com may lose a lot of its value.....and end up selling for $1,000 , while a $7 ugly LLLL.com it`s unrealistic to sell for less than $10 since all LLLL.com will be taken. So the advantages clearly beat the disadvantages.
And if ot was not enought I tell you one more. Americans at Wall Street say "don`t put all your eggs in one basket"......diversification:

With those $5,000 you can buy 1 LLL.com OR register about 700 LLLL.com

How many chances do you have to meet an END USER in the 2 cases?

I`m sure I don`t need to explain it.

Well, I let you guys discuss further on this topic, I don`t want to push anyone anymore to reg anything. I`ll be reader from now on

Kind regards

In some ways, That is a point i tried to make aswell.....With 5K...You can purchase one LLL.com or 700 LLLL.com , I have always believed, Quality domains, Not quanity, But understand, I am not a domain resaler, I very seldom sell any of my names, So i don't buy names to resale them, The LLLL.coms that i regged, Go back to 2002 and 2003, The 20 i decided to keep, Have good use, And most are pronouncable, I remember a good friend of mine here at NP, And myself going through the list of available LLLL.coms a couple of years ago, Mainly because we were bored-LOL.... But i am no different than anyone else, Should i decide, or have to sell my LLLL.coms, I would like to make a nice ROI, And imo, for that to happen, You have to have something some one will want, So quality is the way to go, in investing in LLLL.com , imo, Many quick flippers, Will reg and sale crappy LLLL.com's just to make a few bucks per sale, Nothing wrong with that, So ultimatly, Each domainer has to choose what they want to do, Build a portfolio, Or quick flip domains - be a resaler.

 

[deleted984054565403]

The only reason I would register LLLL domains would be to sell them to domainers that are willing to pay a few dollars more than what I paid.

Sort of reminds me of the "blook" craze -- I cashed out on domainers' over-hyped speculation before they realized what a pointless idea it was. Collecting LLLLs seems a lot like compensating for not having any LLLs. :imho: