poll Which do you hate more - Buyers with low ball offers or Sellers with unrealistic prices?

[Casey L]

These seem to be two of the most common problems domainers have with people inside and outside of the domain industry. Sometimes a buyer sends you an offer for one of your domains and the offer is laughable or flat out offensive. Other times you inquire about a domain, be it from a domainer or someone else, and their price is so unrealistic you feel the need to tell them so.

I wanted to see what you all thought and which optioned annoyed domainers more. Thanks for voting.

 

[ksusha64]

Not hating anyone

There are lot of domain names nowdays, so if I can not get one, I can get different one.

Exactly. Lets not hate anyone. Its business as usual. Only losers hate someone in business dealings.

 

[Bob Hawkes]

I try not to "hate" anyone but I think having reasonable pricing is smart.
Bob

 

[Brands.International]

Not hating anyone

There are lot of domain names nowdays, so if I can not get one, I can get different one.

 

[.X.]

Sellers with unrealistic pricing, I don’t mind the low ball offers, those are leads.

 

[briguy]

I personally believe that there should be a third option to the poll...something like

"Totally neutral as it is part of being in the domain business."

 

[Bernard Wright]

I'm just echoing others at this point, but I agree; hate is an ugly word.

Regarding the poll, I think both are fair game. When someone owns a domain, it's entirely their prerogative as to how much to sell it for. Maybe they receive many offers under their threshold and ultimately realize that with such demand, the name is ripe for development, so they decide to develop it. It's their name. More power to them. Or, maybe they grow old and the name grows old with them. If that's their wish, so shall it be. No point in hating it, or them.

Low ball offers are quite rational. To someone who understands the domain investor's mindset, it's a courtesy to aim within a range that will pay some respect to the owner, and to let the owner know you're a serious buyer. But for those who have never purchased a domain name from an investor, it makes sense to start as low as possible and learn from experience. Even when it's investor vs. investor, one might still want to lob a low ball out just to get a feel for the other party. It'll probably be a losing strategy, but it's a strategy.

I think if one is getting so emotional about offers and such that hate comes into play ...or even dislike... they have some work to do.

 

[Internet.Domains]

In sales negotiations, it's easier to upsell a lowball offer than to lower the price of someone with unrealistically high expectations.

 

[Fortnite]

These seem to be two of the most common problems domainers have with people inside and outside of the domain industry. Sometimes a buyer sends you an offer for one of your domains and the offer is laughable or flat out offensive. Other times you inquire about a domain, be it from a domainer or someone else, and their price is so unrealistic you feel the need to tell them so.

I wanted to see what you all thought and which optioned annoyed domainers more. Thanks for voting.

I think you should have included an option "Both" in the poll..

Some Sellers deserve the "Low ball" hammer as it's their mistake not to mention the minimum offer acceptance. So in my opinion they dont have the rights to complain or be offended.

As for Sellers with unrealistic prices, they will just hang tight with their prices and I won't even think of making them an offer. It's better to keep on scrolling until you find the right one.

 

[7363824]

Sellers with unrealistic expectations for sure. If a buyer doesn't get the value no big deal there are other buys for that name (at least if it's a good name). But if the seller has an unrealistic price there is only 1 of that name...I recently ran into this. A name a I wanted as an end user, was perfect for what i wanted. Comps were in low to mid xxx. Seller wanted high xxxx. I offered a generous low xxxx because I wanted the name that badly and I showed the seller the comps. They just simply weren't reasonable only came down like 500 to their lowest price they would accept. I had to go with an alternate domain that I don't like as much, but was fairly priced.

 

[xynames]

Still you ended up with a worse domain for less money. Your choice.

 

[NickB]

Low ball offers that are below your minimum offer....I mean how bloody cheap do you have to be to do this?

Had it on a couple of my mushroom names.....are you on here by any chance mystery bidder? If so you know who you are...

 

[Truespin Domains]

Unrealistic expectations of sellers. So tired of making reasonable offers on modest domains only to be hit with a $99,000 counter offer.

These people would be better off buying lottery tickets.

 

[Josh R]

Sellers with unrealistic prices.

 

[RichieDomains]

I don't really mind unrealistic prices on domains, in life people can charge what they want for stuff at the end of the day if you want/need something bad enough you'll pay. If it was worth it then you chose wisely, if not its your own fault

I guess the same goes for low ballers, they are trying to get a deal

 

[.X.]

Not hating anyone

There are lot of domain names nowdays, so if I can not get one, I can get different one.

I think potential buyers think this same way to, i feel pretty sure they have alternative options lined up should a seller not want to except their highest offer.

leads and offers can be a indicator for a seller of the top end value of a domain name but ultimately it always comes down to what a buyer is really willing to pay for the domain name, anything above that price is usually unacceptable in the market place.

 

[Casey L]

Exactly. Lets not hate anyone. Its business as usual. Only losers hate someone in business dealings.

Let me make myself clear, the poll was meant to be which action do you hate more, not which person. I could never hate a domainer

 

[karmaco]

I don’t hate either— although low ballers are far more annoying . Low ballers can be eliminated quite easily by raising the minimum offer allowed. I’d rather have a higher minimum and wait for a serious buyer but that is just me.

People are free to price their domains how they want to and I don’t care about other domainers prices. It’s actually a time saver to know right away a name is out of your budget.

 

[lock]

You can bump a low baller with sales history you can't start negotiating with something priced out of market.

 

[tonyk2000]

Hate? It is not the term I'd use in domaining aspect. It is just business. Nothing personal or emotional. Whether it is about buyers, sellers, registrar or hosting providers etc. I voted for "sellers with unrealistic prices" simply because this pricing model makes all of us (the domainers) even more hated by endusers. This model is not necessary more profitable in a long run. On the other hand... since I think that my prices are realistic... the existence of sellers with unrealistic prices may be somewhat helpful. I've seen the sellers pricing their .net or .org higher (unrealistic prices the poll is about) and my exact .com was cheaper for example.

 

[Neha Gupta]

When I am seller, I hate buyer with low ball offer more and when I am buyer, I hate seller with unrealistic price more

 

[Zilla]

sometime we play both ourself, not necessaryly blame or even "hate" others, we all want buy cheaper, sell more.....but the market itself will tell us what is the reasonable price...

 

[Chairul avif]

but I think having reasonable pricing is smart.

Nice Answer Bob.
Both side have right to do things. But unreasonable price make people hate you :D

 

[7363824]

Those “comps” are predominantly domainer to domainer. Not everyone is a low flipper.

Not necessarily. In fact I will exclude comps from sources like flippa and weigh more heavily on comps I can track to an end user which on this case I mentioned I was able to do. I found an end user sale for $650 with a whois change at the same time to the current owner who has built out a site. Though i felt that name a little stronger so i started at $500. But this isn't really the time or place to rehash an onld negotiation. Just an example of an owner who dosent grasp what the market is really willing to pay.

 

[eurorealtor]

Low ball offer can touch the nerve, but that's the human nature, if you don't put the minimum offer limit, people always start low, even you, so why would you hate low ballers? If you get sick of low ball offers, just set up minimum offer, unless you are afraid to scare buyers off with unrealistic price

If the price of domain you want is unrealistic, try negotiate, wait until seller wake up to reality or move on. We all think our domains are great even they aren't, that's why we got them in the first place.

 

[WatchDogue]

Having had domain names since 1996 have had a gazillion lowball offers on names offered for sale and on names that were not offered for sale.

Became a bit immune to the lowball offers and my domain name skin thickened to ignore or disregard 'em even when the unwanted phone calls way back then came ringing in.

I can control the lowballers to an extent,by ignoring 'em or trying to negotiate with 'em.

It was the vastly unrealistic priced names, back when I might try to buy another domainer's name, that drove me a bit batty.

Too many felt a realistic, honest inquiry or offer was equivalent to fresh meat trying to jump
on their paypal grill and oh man, were some prices unrealistic.

And not uncommonly, several months or a year or so later I would get a follow-up " acceptance " of my
fair market price offer for their name which was no longer of interest to me.

If I were to choose,I preferred a lowball offer to an utterly unrealistically priced domain name seller.

( As an aside I was quite unrealistically priced on many names in the early days - be it a bit of greed, exaggerated name values, lack of comp type pricing - type guidelines ) etc ).