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What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

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  1. TCK

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    If you are bound only by US law then you should not make the content available in jurisdictions where laws are broken outside of the US. Holocaust denial is offensive pretty much in most of Europe. @frank-germany would know if it is also against the law.
     
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  2. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO Gold Account VIP

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    The terms of service explains the governing law though a more comprehensive ToS is being drafted.

    As for blocking certain users, we'll check with @Taylor Ervin about the ability to place geo restrictions on certain videos based on detected IP of the point of access. There is a way to do it.

    For the moment, the service is entirely free. We envision a future state where videos channels can sell subscriptions and take donations to their audience.
     
  3. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    @Rob Monster

    for the records:

    you want a geo-restriction for a holocaust denier video
    but you want to allow it to stay on epik
     
  4. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO Gold Account VIP

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    I am personally not a Holocaust denier.

    One of my absolute favorite Bible teachers is an old Dutch woman named Corrie Ten Boom. She is the main character in the classic Holocaust documentary called "The Hiding Place".

    This is my favorite teaching by her:

    https://us.tv/videos/watch/3ffa9288-9df6-4ee6-a8d5-ac4536112a0b

    So, I am personally not a Holocaust denier in the least.

    However, to quote Voltaire:

    upload_2019-10-21_12-55-54.png

    You see how that works?

    That is free speech with personal accountability.

    However, I do draw a line, and in particular it comes down to the intent of the heart. If someone's intent is discernibly mendacious or misanthropic, I absolutely and a priori reserve the right to not serve.

    And while I appreciate your fanatic intolerance, it does not concern me all that much because I am reasonably capable of forming my own opinion. And while I would happily would count you as a friend and happy client, I accept that I cannot please everyone and can live with that. Why? Because:


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  5. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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  6. frank-germany

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    "fanatic intolerance" ?

    I guess I 'm not fanatic at all -in any regards

    to me its a matter of very bad taste

    to support
    the spitting on humans
    who suffered incredible pain
     
  7. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO Gold Account VIP

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    Nobody should debate whether there has been genocide. The evidence of genocide is overwhelming throughout history.

    From the perspective of lawful free speech, there is some debate about specific facts about specific genocides. The question on the table is who decides history and for how long. For example Wikipedia has become highly weaponized and is no longer a reliable authority. Yet in the consumer's eye, it is as reliable as Encyclopedia Britannica was some decades earlier.

    As for your apparent "intolerance", it seems to be towards the allowance of competing views about who did what to who. You are of course not alone there. However, in no way should anyone doubt that there were genocidal death camps around World War II.

    Ultimately I believe that the overwhelming evidence of evil is ultimately what also provides validation of the duality of good and evil. The Hebrew word is this one:

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?&strongs=H1847&t=KJV

    Da'ath

    It first appears in Genesis 2:9.

    However, it also appears in many other places. It is actually not "knowledge" of subjects of calculus and history. I believe it is much more specifically the knowledge, or discernment, of good and evil.

    That is why Hosea tells us:

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    People are not being destroyed because they did not learn calculus well. They are being destroyed because they can't discern between good and evil.

    If the censors have their way, it will become progressively harder to develop the ability to discern between good and evil.
     
  8. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    personally I don't care about your bible posts
    I didn't read them


    I support the idea of "free speech"

    but here we have 2 different rights:

    1) their right to think
    whatever they think, I don't care.
    1b ) their right to publish their ideas,
    1c) on a server/platform of their own, I don't mind

    2) your -epiks- right to give a platform to whom you like


    But I see no need for you
    -in order to comply with the idea of free speech-
    have to force yourself to publish their ideas

    there is no need.
    they can organize a public platform themselves
    and if they can't so what


    but on your platform
    this poison it is mingled in between harmless stuff

    you are supporting them
    that's no doubt
     
  9. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO Gold Account VIP

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    Thanks Frank.

    The issue is who decides what is "poison" and what is "harmless". Documentaries that present competing views of history are probably less harmful than tranny porn, yet both exist on the public internet for persons of all ages to discover and share. If everyone listened to you, I imagine we could have an Orwellian Dystopia in no time at all. Fortunately for the rest of us who have a mature capacity for active discernment, you don't get to make the rules. Nevertheless, you can criticize and rebuke, and indeed many do exactly that without contemplating the larger issue and predictable consequence of unmitigated censorship.
     
  10. TCK

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    So you are saying that holocaust denial and tranny porn will co-exist online and there is nothing we can do about either and both deserve to have a voice. BTW, I had to look up tranny porn on Google. Do you allow that on your platforms?
     
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  11. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO Gold Account VIP

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    As for Us.Tv, this is actually an application, where we also happen to operate the virtual TLD. There is some last work to do to link the Us.Tv TLD services to the application service. This way you can register a Us.Tv and immediately have a platform that makes it operationally useful as a configurable video site.

    As for porn, in general, we don't host it. There are specialty hosts that do that. From time to time we find that a BitMitigate customer is using CDN services for adult content but we definitely don't go looking for it. I am guessing our (free) VPN customers also use it to access porn. Their connection is encrypted so who knows.
     
  12. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    go taste it
    guess you will know the difference soon
     
  13. Rob Monster

    Rob Monster CEO, Epik Epik.com Staff PRO Gold Account VIP

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    Actually, I have tasted the difference.

    I sometimes talk to Founders and CEOs of sites that are under pressure, perhaps because they might also attract misanthropes. The founders/CEOs who decline a phone call or video call with me, are usually the ones that might be up to no good. That is one of many clues.

    As noted elsewhere, I think there is a dividing line between "hateful people engaging in speech" and "people engaging in speech that others hate". For me, it comes down to whether (1) the content is lawful, and (2) whether the person enabling speech is animated by hateful intentions.

    Free speech without personal accountability is a liability to all. They are like drunk drivers. If the site operator is not in his right mind, or capable of being highly unpredictable vis-a-vis enforcing Terms of Service, we are likely not their registrar, host, DDoS mitigators, CDN provider or SSL issuer.

    Would my life be easier if I just followed the directive of people who are vocally intolerant? Sure. But that would mean abdicating on a founding principle of the US Republic. It would also mean eternal regret for having failed to empower people to ask questions and seek answers. See Daniel 12:4 for context.

    Hope that helps.
     
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  14. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    yeah
    Daniel knows it ll ...

    "If there is a God, he will have to beg for my forgiveness."
    - from an inmate scratched into the wood of the concentration camp -
     
  15. oldtimer

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    The ultimate question is do people have the right to be racist, and how far are they allowed to go to oppress, suppress, and eliminate those that they don’t like or agree with.

    This goes beyond the freedom of speech as the person who is racist doesn’t have to say even one word to hurt others, all he or she has to do is to get in to some position of power and influence in the society and then inject his or her poison into people's lives without anyone noticing.

    Was your job application put in the trash or filed somewhere out of sight so that it could be ignored even though you were perfectly qualified for a certain position, was your home loan application denied because someone didn’t want you to live in a certain neighborhood, was your application for assistance denied because someone wanted to cut down on the competition and monopolize the limited resources that were available only for their own kind of people, was your insurance claim denied perhaps for the same reasons. Has someone at the top decided that you would never get promoted to higher positions because those had already been reserved for people of their own race. And finally did someone throw your whole race under the bus and let you all get slaughtered, whether it happened during the Holocaust or whether it’s happening to some people as we speak it’s all because of Hate manifested in political, racial, religious, and gender prejudice and intolerance.

    IMO
     
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  16. frank-germany

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    to me
    the main question is:
    why is there a need for epik to help these guys spread their message

    there is facebook
    there is youtube
    there is twitter

    the are dedicated servers
    and streaming technology

    they can use those services
    why add another one?
     
  17. Mary Muse

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    Religion in the modern age of science and knowledge is REALLY bewildering to me. Some of the "smartest" people "having faith" in the most ignorant & outrageous of sh*t.

    How about we accept organic morality/mortality? We're all interconnected with life on Earth. Life is a miracle -- just look around, and faith will quickly be replaced with a connection with the natural and real.

    Quit quoting tired, religious text and be a human being. In the meantime, we'll continue to divide the human race with garbage.
     
  18. Rob Monster

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    If you can reconcile a universe that that has the precision of a Swiss watch to being the product of randomness and not that of an architect, of course be my guest. However, let's try not to not stand in the way of those who wish to investigate the meaning of life with a bit more thorough approach.

    For the project called Toki, servers will be deployed to the far corners of the world, including the most remote villages. The Toki servers are being designed now, and will cost as little as $100 with free WiFi, while running on minimal power. Here is a working protoytype:

    upload_2019-10-23_10-27-22.png

    The production version will fit into an adult hand and be weather-resistant and generally resilient. It can run 24 hours on a battery but can also take an external power source or solar. It links up to a WiFi mesh network that should cost about $35 per node.

    Even if that server has no uplink to the public internet, that server will be able to host all manner of content, including the holy writ of all major belief systems, as well as scientific and historical reference, empowering people to ask questions and seek answers.

    In other words, ultimately, ignorance must be a choice. Over the next 5 years, I believe we have a reasonable chance to bring another 1 billion people online. I am inspired to work on that, and in the process of course many new folks may buy and sell domain names as they become Netizens.
     
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  19. Mary Muse

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    Technology and their measurements are the antithesis of randomness and "faith."

    It's not our job to just randomly use aged philosophy and pseudoscience to navigate the "randomness."

    It's our job to embrace the fact that technology and free thought (away from religion) is enabling a future without blinders.

    As a mycologist, I see the way fungi and other intelligent life works...and how aware they are. Intelligence is definitely relative -- and ours is limited.
     
  20. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    yesterday
    in lack of news
    this was the news in germany

    no plant
    no animal

    not only alive
    but intelligent
    unicellular organism

    https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/blob-zoo-paris-101.html

    https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/blob-zoo-paris-101.html

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    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Rob Monster

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    As a mycologist, you already have a keen understanding of cellular reproduction, including the remarkable feature of DNA, in its autonomous ability to (apparently) self-govern while also working in concert with other cells to create life in all its conscious and interoperable complexity.

    The evidence of design is blatantly obvious in life, that I choose to accept that there is an architect. As such, for me, the meaning of life became to identify that architect and to figure out what that this architect had in mind for my life since He is apparently a whole lot smarter than I am.

    That being said, for each his own. If you can convince yourself, that life in all its complexity can evolve over billions of years from nothing into a sentient and conscious entity, and that this can all happen through chance and natural selection, great. Agree to disagree. I don't judge you but I concluded differently!

    At least we can agree that knowledge is worth spreading. I prefer wisdom but knowledge is great and so perhaps we can at least agree that it is desirable to provide more people with access to knowledge, and that access to knowledge is a human right?
     
  22. Mary Muse

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    Agree knowledge is the key.

    It's taken a very long time to evolve -- and we've proven that organic life is not difficult to reproduce in a laboratory. Technology itself has proven how likely it is that intelligent life is scattered throughout the universe.

    We weren't meant to find the existence of exoplanets, quantum particles, dark matter/energy, etc. But through other lenses our eyes see on scales previously unimaginable.

    Through discovery we gain humility -- I don't find random moral (sp. edit) codes built through religion as relevant any longer.

    We are an evolved species -- intellectually, emotionally, physically. We haven't always been so fortunate to build the tools to think more clearly.

    So why not start now?
     
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  23. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    what you refer to as knowledge
    are spread by mouth stories
    of a time were there was no television or cinema nor youtube

    so in order to not be bored
    people were telling stories instead of watching moving pictures

    today nobody knows what is true or
    has been added in order to make it more interesting
    in order not to lose listeners
     
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  24. frank-germany

    frank-germany domainer since 2001 / musician Gold Account VIP

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    did I share this story?

    its well worth reading.

    the idea is this:
    when quantum computers are evolving
    ( there are 3 existing already right now )

    will humanity create a virtual earth with virtual humans inside?
    inside a quantum computer?

    I guess yes - as soon as it is possible
    at least in order to forcast stuff


    now:
    will these "humans" have self knowledge?
    will they have a consciousness?

    will they themself build a world in a box when they evolve...
    with self-concious humans inside?

    and so on

    if so
    how likely is it,
    that we are the first version of humans
    developing this capacity?


    how likely is it,
    that we are already living in a simulation?





    german
    https://www.golem.de/news/astrobiol...universum-und-der-ganze-rest-1909-143279.html

    english
    https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.golem.de/news/astrobiologie-woher-kommen-das-leben-das-universum-und-der-ganze-rest-1909-143279.html
     
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  25. oldtimer

    oldtimer Do some good for humanity and the environment VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    I often use my domain names to express my opinions and ideas, here is my original website that was taken down which I believe was done to limit my freedom of speech:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20181215233311/https:/aimedicalcenter.com/

    Luckily it had already been archived before it was taken down, now I have made a shorter version of my site which has so far been allowed to remain.

    I am planning to write a book which will explain in more details my perspective and view of the World both as far as Life and the Environment and will examine the relationships and interactions between AI, Humanity, Natural and Artificial life forms and the Entities that govern over their existence.

    IMO
     
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