What I've Learnt In Two Months Of Domaining

[sashas]

I've been domaining for a very less time: just 2 months.
But frankly, during this time, I've read and researched a LOT (my 600+ posts on this forum would prove that

What I've found in the past two months is that the domaining business is extremely competitive, and changes VERY VERY fast.

Over the past two months I've seen:

1.) CCC.coms sell for a minimum of $150, even with letters like Q and X
2.) CVCV.coms sell for a minimum of $500.
3.) Good LLLL.coms sell for $300+ (and I'm talking Snapnames prices here).
4.) .co.in being hardly regged, and .in being completely exhausted of good one word names.
5.) LLL.coms go for a minimum of $7000
6.) .mobi FULL of speculation, but very few actual sales.
7.) .info rising in value sharply.
8.) .us being one of the hardest TLDs to sell.
9.) That only .coms receive traffic
10.) That .in receives no traffic, and .co.in receives a lot. But .in sells a lot, .co.in doesn't sell at all.
11.) Nobody will touch two word .cn names. Very few would even bother with one word .cn names.
12.) That IDNs were interesting, but lost their charm.
13.) That domaining is EXTREMELY addictive
14.) That most newbies register names like AOP2.com, DellSoftware.com etc. and think they've hit gold (I did...).
15.) That its impossible to hand reg a single .com with more than 200 OVT
16.) That OVT is dead anyway
17.) Sedo never pays.

But I can frankly say now that in the hands of a good domainer, $10,000 can be doubled in two months time very very easily. Its the fastest way to earn money.

 

[401kdomains]

Words of Wisdom

I like your post. I am 1 month into my lessons. I have also learned a few of the details you mentioned by experience. This is very addictive as you state and I LOVE sales and marketing. I would be interested in hearing what your feedback would be on my inventory. Many of my Sites are going to be built into a content filled site and I have specific customers in mind once they are running. Many others are just my playing around searching.

It is nice to meet you.

Dean
www.401kdomains.com
(please excuse the amature website. It is destined to be built by a pro)

 

[onewordonly]

great post and points, you have learn't well in such a short time.

 

[aotgroup]

good comments but i think this bit is a bit speculative

"in the hands of a good domainer, $10,000 can be doubled in two months time very very easily. Its the fastest way to earn money."

 

[poiuytrewq]

Hi. Some interesting points.

9.) That only .coms receive traffic
- Not true in my experience.

13.) That domaining is EXTREMELY addictive
- Yep. And then one day you will wake up and smell the coffee. Happens to us all eventually.

15.) That its impossible to hand reg a single .com with more than 200 OVT
- Disagree

17.) Sedo never pays
- They do for me.

 

[sashas]

Ah well, about Sedo, I've been waiting for payments on two sales for the past one month...so obviously I'm prejudiced.

And about .coms receiving all the traffic, I would say that all typo traffic is for .coms. .nets/.infos receive hardly any traffic, and .orgs might receive some if its a relevant term. I agree that ccTLDs receive traffic, especially if its a term popular in that country.

Some of the points in the post were more tongue in cheek than anything...so I guess everyone should take them with a pinch of salt

 

[Charley]

And about .coms receiving all the traffic, I would say that all typo traffic is for .coms.

No.

I have generic names that get very good traffic. Not all typos make good traffic.



Only the US ovt tool isn't working.

That OVT is dead anyway

 

[djmadfx]

You forgot that it can be quite frustrating. Maybe it was for you, but it's proving to be for me after a month or so. I haven't stayed up late so much in the past as I do now with domaining. I'm still just starting off, so it's expected.

 

[sashas]

It was frustrating initially, but now its kinda fun, simply because I know now which pie to put my fingers in.
Also, I've learnt that hand regging names is just futile...the chances of getting lucky are pretty slim. So hand reggin is out unless you have tons of cash. Expired names are much better.

 

[Spade]

5.) LLL.coms go for a minimum of $7000

12.) That IDNs were interesting, but lost their charm.

2 Bullets I wanted to Address...

LLL.com's are not at 7k wholesale pricing just yet! (hopefully soon though). I would say right now they are about $4,500 + at min pricing. You'll be hard pressed to find anything at that price, but I think its doable. I do see LLL.com's hitting 5.5k-6k by the end of the year in terms of min resale value.

IDNs were interesting? LoL - they are only getting more interesting. Although I am not an IDN buyer - I expect this market to begin to heat up next year - You cant ignore the rest of the world... just the simple truth.


However, youve been active in domaining for 2 months, youve learned and asked questions that are important and your gaining a wealth of knowledge it takes others years to learn. Congrats as you are quickly becoming a quality addition to the Domain Industry.

Justin

 

[sashas]

thanks, DomainSpade

about IDNs, I say that only because I've seen very few good IDN sales (other than the last one reported on DNJournal), and see their value only in the Japanese market. The Chinese are too busy learning english, and they still carry that stigma of their original language being a 'third world' language (I know this because Hindi carries the same stigma in India).

And yes, you can find LLL.coms for $5k, but thats only when the seller is a non domainer. A domainer would be smart enough to send the name to auction and earn 7k+. They're still the best investment IMO, with guranteed returns. I see LLL.coms as bank deposits with about 25% interest rates...you can cash them out (sell them) any time you want, because you'll always find interested buyers

 

[htmlindex]

I've been domaining for a very less time: just 2 months.
But frankly, during this time, I've read and researched a LOT (my 600+ posts on this forum would prove that

What I've found in the past two months is that the domaining business is extremely competitive, and changes VERY VERY fast.

Over the past two months I've seen:

1.) CCC.coms sell for a minimum of $150, even with letters like Q and X
2.) CVCV.coms sell for a minimum of $500.
3.) Good LLLL.coms sell for $300+ (and I'm talking Snapnames prices here).
4.) .co.in being hardly regged, and .in being completely exhausted of good one word names.
5.) LLL.coms go for a minimum of $7000
6.) .mobi FULL of speculation, but very few actual sales.
7.) .info rising in value sharply.
8.) .us being one of the hardest TLDs to sell.
9.) That only .coms receive traffic
10.) That .in receives no traffic, and .co.in receives a lot. But .in sells a lot, .co.in doesn't sell at all.
11.) Nobody will touch two word .cn names. Very few would even bother with one word .cn names.
12.) That IDNs were interesting, but lost their charm.
13.) That domaining is EXTREMELY addictive
14.) That most newbies register names like AOP2.com, DellSoftware.com etc. and think they've hit gold (I did...).
15.) That its impossible to hand reg a single .com with more than 200 OVT
16.) That OVT is dead anyway
17.) Sedo never pays.

But I can frankly say now that in the hands of a good domainer, $10,000 can be doubled in two months time very very easily. Its the fastest way to earn money.

Nice summary you've got there. I would have to disagree with you on point 15 "That its impossible to hand reg a single .com with more than 200 OVT". Just found a .com today with OVT of 1k that I'm just about to register, with the .co.uk & .de already taken

 

[sashas]

thats nice..I've found it hard thought, unless you get lucky with a good delete...I think thats what must've happened in your case.

Good luck with it..

 

[-REECE-]

thats nice..I've found it hard thought, unless you get lucky with a good delete...I think thats what must've happened in your case.

Good luck with it..

I sure haven't seen a 1 worder with 1k ovt for reg (not expired) around in awhile...

 

[htmlindex]

I sure haven't seen a 1 worder with 1k ovt for reg (not expired) around in awhile...

It's actually a 2 word domain, nothing fantastic, but I'd say it's worth the reg fee

 

[-REECE-]

It's actually a 2 word domain, nothing fantastic, but I'd say it's worth the reg fee

As would I. Great find

 

[AdoptableDomains]

You've learned a lot in a short time. I wish other would read and learn that quickly and we'd all be better off. I'm sure in another year or so you could add another 100 points to your list, so keep reading and learning. Good luck using what you learned so far.

I do disagree and have to reword one statement. Sedo does pay, and I've always been paid promptly WHEN THEY BUYER PAYS. Some sedo buyers do not pay, but I've had pretty good luck at probably 80% follow through. Sedo should increase that to 100% though by policy enforcement and changes.

 

[mwzd]

What I've found in the past two months is that the domaining business is extremely competitive, and changes VERY VERY fast.

Totally true.

4.) .co.in being hardly regged, and .in being completely exhausted of good one word names.

Which is hardly surprising, though people would like you to think differently.

10.) That .in receives no traffic, and .co.in receives a lot. But .in sells a lot, .co.in doesn't sell at all.

My experience, where I own both the .in and .co.in has been that .in's get more traffic and sell more!

13.) That domaining is EXTREMELY addictive

So true.

14.) That most newbies register names like AOP2.com, DellSoftware.com etc. and think they've hit gold (I did...).

I'll add the following here -

20) Only generics have value, brandables might sound nice but cost a bundle to promote and tm names are poison.

But I can frankly say now that in the hands of a good domainer, $10,000 can be doubled in two months time very very easily. Its the fastest way to earn money.

You have hit that spot on. Just that 'good domainers' were once noobs like us.

 

[GreenGambler]

You sure have caught on quickly. And I think you hit the nail right on the head although everything has it's exceptions.

Good Job.

thanks for sharing,
GG